Ibara PS2 vs PCB (DOJBLEX thread derailment)

[Ruldra]

burning discs for use with PS2's is outdated really

You should see how it's like here in my country. Everyone uses burned discs.

[THE]

Yes people paying $100+ for the PS2 Ibara are stupid. But those paying $200+ for a PCB are perfectly intelligent, right?

The problem is one side pays $100+ for crap and the other side $200+ for silver (I'm not going for gold in case of Ibara / Garrega>Ibara). So which side more intelligent?

[Raizen1984]

The problem is one side pays $100+ for crap and the other side $200+ for silver (I'm not going for gold in case of Ibara / Garrega>Ibara). So which side more intelligent?

You're late to the party dude. We're talking about Deathsmiles now. I don't want to talk about Ibara anymore. Hey, I derailed the thread, I can make the rules!

[kernow]

Ibara is battle gareggas hotter, sexier, dirtier sister

[Obiwanshinobi]

You can't really say that comparing an arcade board to modding a PS2 and burning the game is a fair comparison.

Implying that an imported PS2 is required to play imported PS2 games is just as unfair I would say. You can still play perfectly kosher games on a chipped one, mind. Undubs and fan translations are another pretty good reasons to mod your PS2 rather than import. For example, I own a legit copy of Valkyrie Profile 2, but it's good to be able to play it undubbed anyway. Modding is not only for the sake of piracy.

[cools]

Ibara is battle gareggas hotter, sexier, dirtier sister

Cheaper, younger, easier, smaller.

[jonny5]

Ibara is battle gareggas hotter, sexier, dirtier sister

Cheaper, younger, easier, smaller.

[cools]

So that's eight good things about Ibara.

And we've described my perfect woman.

Right, time to go find one that matches the criteria and get her name changed by deed poll.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

So that's eight good things about Ibara.

And we've described my perfect woman.

Right, time to go find one that matches the criteria and get her name changed by deed poll.

Good luck on finding her...if she hasn't already been taken. Still plenty of fish left in the sea that are ripe for the taking. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[chempop]

So if Garegga is the girl you have to work hard to get anywhere with then I guess that makes Ibara the easy lay you just got to bomb every ten seconds to score massive points with... easily worth $100 in my book! Wait, huh?

shmups forum has reached a new low everyone! Crack the champagne!

I've been playing the PS2 Ibara port for a few days now (I paid $85 from a board member btw) and really the only nauseating factor is how many of the bullets are spinning little disk thingies that are kinda hypnotizing when there is 50 of them on the screen at once. Layer Section is still my favorite shmup and it cost me under $10, so price is never the end-all of what kinda experience you are going to have with a toy.

[jonny5]

you should be bombing like 5 times every 10 seconds

[Elixir]

You can't really say that comparing an arcade board to modding a PS2 and burning the game is a fair comparison.

Implying that an imported PS2 is required to play imported PS2 games is just as unfair I would say. You can still play perfectly kosher games on a chipped one, mind. Undubs and fan translations are another pretty good reasons to mod your PS2 rather than import. For example, I own a legit copy of Valkyrie Profile 2, but it's good to be able to play it undubbed anyway. Modding is not only for the sake of piracy.

So how do you propose we start pirating arcade boards and Superguns to make this a fair comparison?

Coming soon... the Sigma Chinajin.

[TLB]

So much Ibara love. It's wonderful.

Personally, I tend to buy a hell of a lot more ports than PCBs (hint: I only have one), but in the case of Ibara, it was far more than worth it to kick out another $100. I don't need to list all the reasons, but I've played both versions, and the original hardware is really the way to go. I pretty much bought my supergun for Ibara, in the end. While I don't plan on getting another PCB anytime soon, the supergun was still a very worthy investment, so I can't really count the extra $140 against it. Would I do it again?

Of course.

Since I don't want to be crucified for drawing discussion away from Deathsmiles, I'll throw in my two cents on the whole beat-to-shit thing about J360s.

Frankly, RFA and RIV being the only games likely to get NA localizations (and me already having a US360), getting a J360 wouldn't even be worth the money for me. The J360, the shipping, getting and modding another stick (though a fightpad would be fine, I guess), and then buying the ports of the games I want is just a huge hassle and won't pay off for quite some time. Honestly, I have no interest in Deathsmiles or DOJBL. The only games I want to play from Cave anymore that aren't ported already are Ketsui, Mushi Futari, and Gal 2. Guess what, they're all getting ported in that order (F**K YOU VERY MUCH CAVE <3).

Though the cost of loading up on all that shit might, indeed, be marginally less than any one of those PCBs (besides Galuda 2), all the trouble it's worth to go through it and then the constant hanging sword of the risk of hardware failure is just not worth the stress when, instead, I could just buy one of the PCBs, play it, and sell it when I wanted to get one of the other games. The arcade hardware is going to last a hell of a lot longer than a 360, I'm quite sure.

Now when is the DFK port going to be announced ? I'd play it, but from what I hear it's too easy. I've had my fill of chaning with DOJ.

[charlie chong]

If only you put as much effort into your posts as you did your signature.

Ah well, it beats throwing a tantrum and getting the bad laws and haggis everywhere.

I DONT GET UPSET DAWGGIE .JUST JOKES .I KNOW YOUR SCARED TO EVEN TALK TO PEOPLE IN THE REAL WORLD SO THIS IS YOUR OUTLET FOR ANGER AT FAILING LIFE.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR PAIN SON TIME WILL HEAL
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[Plasmo]

Ibara is battle gareggas hotter, sexier, dirtier sister

Cheaper, younger, easier, smaller.

So that's eight good things about Ibara.
And we've described my perfect woman.

8 good things? So your perfect woman has to have the feature of being your sister?

[Jockel]

Now when is the DFK port going to be announced ? I'd play it, but from what I hear it's too easy. I've had my fill of chaning with DOJ.

Well clearing the first loop is piss easy.
However reaching and clearing the 2nd loop is a whole nother story.
But then again i don't mind easy shooters, as long as they are FUN.
And DFK absolutely delivers!
Brilliant shooter.


Oh and nice one plasmo xD

[cools]

Ibara is battle gareggas hotter, sexier, dirtier sister

Cheaper, younger, easier, smaller.

So that's eight good things about Ibara.
And we've described my perfect woman.

8 good things? So your perfect woman has to have the feature of being your sister?

I'm not Garegga...

[CStarFlare]

Actually I think CStarFlare did this.

Nah, I bought Mushi and a year later bought a supergun, and decided I should at least have two games to play on it.

In the end the whole setup took up too much room, and I'd probably trade my supergun for a PS2 port of Ibara.

Should I ever find myself in a situation where I have a cab, I'd probably nab Ibara again because it's great and super cheap. In the meantime, PS2 will (probably) be fine, and arrange looks like a lot of fun.

[Obiwanshinobi]

So how do you propose we start pirating arcade boards and Superguns to make this a fair comparison?

I didn't bring up piracy. You did, which has fuck all to do with the pont I made. I was referring to that comparison of yours:

The sad thing is that you could probably make a low-end budget Supergun and buy the board, and it would cost around the same or slightly over the price of an imported Japanese console and the cost of Ibara on eBay now.

Come on, "imported Japanese console" and what else, gold encrusted chalice? Apparently Ibara for the PS2 (as flawed as it is), even at current ridiculous prices, is cheaper than a board, and you don't need a Japanese PS2 to play it. That is all.

[2dvertical]

Can somebody please tell me where I might get Ibara ps2 for $100, so I can join the crowd of stupid people buying it I never see it that low

[clp]

uh someone is selling it for that exact price in trading station now .

[Elixir]

Come on, "imported Japanese console" and what else, gold encrusted chalice? Apparently Ibara for the PS2 (as flawed as it is), even at current ridiculous prices, is cheaper than a board, and you don't need a Japanese PS2 to play it. That is all.

Basically what you're trying to say is that buying a modded PS2 along with a legit copy of Ibara is a fair comparison to buying a Supergun along with the arcade board. Well uh, it isn't, so you might as well get that out of your head already. With that logic you would need some sort of pirated Supergun to make it fair. Buying a JP PS2 along with Ibara is accurate, however, and it is STILL cheaper. But in this case it's like THE said, the price difference is within $100 and it's a matter of crap or silver.

[Obiwanshinobi]

Basically what you're trying to say is that buying a modded PS2 along with a legit copy of Ibara is a fair comparison to buying a Supergun along with the arcade board.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that buying a Japanese PS2 instead of modding the one you already own is for people who have some money to burn (or suckers for that matter). Comparing a region-free home console with extremely varied and vast library to something which is pretty much a custom built arcade cabinet doesn't make much sense anyway; each option satisfies slightly different set of your needs.

[Elixir]

Basically what you're trying to say is that buying a modded PS2 along with a legit copy of Ibara is a fair comparison to buying a Supergun along with the arcade board.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that buying a Japanese PS2 instead of modding the one you already own is for people who have some money to burn (or suckers for that matter). Comparing a region-free home console with extremely varied and vast library to something which is pretty much a custom built arcade cabinet doesn't make much sense anyway; each option satisfies slightly different set of your needs.

And who said anything about currently owning a PS2? This is for people wanting to buy a JP PS2 and Ibara. And not everyone has the technical knowledge of how to mod a PS2. And not everyone has someone in their area which they can help with. And no, buying a JP PS2 isn't a waste of money. Unless you play RPGs, there's no reason to own a non-JP console.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. The main point here is that the PS2 version is grossly overrated and inflated for no reason. People will still buy it though, and that's for the "suckers and people with money to burn".

[emphatic]

each option satisfies slightly different set of nerds.

^^fixed

[Plasmo]

please stop using that smiley emph
seriously, I'm begging you, PLEASE

[kernow]

hahah

[captpain]

Basically what you're trying to say is that buying a modded PS2 along with a legit copy of Ibara is a fair comparison to buying a Supergun along with the arcade board.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that buying a Japanese PS2 instead of modding the one you already own is for people who have some money to burn (or suckers for that matter). Comparing a region-free home console with extremely varied and vast library to something which is pretty much a custom built arcade cabinet doesn't make much sense anyway; each option satisfies slightly different set of your needs.

And who said anything about currently owning a PS2? This is for people wanting to buy a JP PS2 and Ibara. And not everyone has the technical knowledge of how to mod a PS2. And not everyone has someone in their area which they can help with. And no, buying a JP PS2 isn't a waste of money. Unless you play RPGs, there's no reason to own a non-JP console.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. The main point here is that the PS2 version is grossly overrated and inflated for no reason. People will still buy it though, and that's for the "suckers and people with money to burn".

Understanding the process of modding a PS2 these days takes about as much technical ability as it takes to figure out how to import a JP PS2.

[cools]

/me gets tempted to add anti-hotlinking to AO...

[emphatic]

/me gets tempted to add anti-hotlinking to AO...

Seriously? You won't let me mess with Plasmo, you say?