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Marshall banana wrote:The original Shutter is worth a watch, I think. It creeped me out a lot!
I watched this one tonight. Not too bad. Pretty much along the lines of your typical Asian horror films from recent past. In the one scene where he's driving real fast trying to get away from the girl and she floats up next to the passenger side window, I couldn't help but think of this at about the 3:00 mark. Ahh... classic shit. This is what I love about horror movies. They try to be scary, but they just make me laugh most of the time. The gore and scary make-up is just a bonus.

I got a copy of REC, so I look forward to checking that one out tomorrow night.
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30 Days of Night wasn't bad, especially considering that it is a vampire flick, of which most are awful. Could have been better, but wasn't terrible either. It's your usual survival-horror plot (nothing thought provoking), with some nicely done gore. 6-7/10
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Oh, I almost forgot: The Descent is probably the best horror movie of the past 10 years (or longer). Watch it alone at night. Not for the faint of heart.

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Ceph wrote:Oh, I almost forgot: The Descent is probably the best horror movie of the past 10 years (or longer). Watch it alone at night. Not for the faint of heart.

9/10
That's a bold statement... and I've seen it. Got to disagree with you big time on that one.

But hey, as fans of horror, we have to take what we can get. It's really the only genre of movies I enjoy taking the bad with the good.
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Actually I completely agree with Ceph and mentioned the Descent in the first thread of this post. I don't think the Descent is perfect, but it is IMO closer to doing what good horror should do than anything else I've seen in a long time.
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Ceph wrote:Oh, I almost forgot: The Descent is probably the best horror movie of the past 10 years (or longer). Watch it alone at night. Not for the faint of heart.

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That's a bold statement... and I've seen it. Got to disagree with you big time on that one.

But hey, as fans of horror, we have to take what we can get. It's really the only genre of movies I enjoy taking the bad with the good.
agreed...with subcons that is.....i thought the descent was terrible....but i also agree on the point that i will watch just about anything horror at least once
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Maybe you weren't paying attention while watching it? The Descent is a masterful thrillride of psychological terror and gore, from start to finish. If you honestly can't see that, then either the relentlessly churned out load of z-grade gore movies has had a blunting effect on your sense of appreciation or you simply never had one in the first place. :P

EDIT: I just read that the US release of the Descent got a different ending, because US test audiences didn't like the original (yay, the Bladerunner-effect)! By all means, watch the original British version. The American ending actually spoils the movie, and I wouldn't rate it anywhere near as high that way. So if you saw that instead of the original version, I can understand why you didn't like it as much.

Let's not go into any details; I really don't wish to spoil this great movie for anyone who hasn't seen it. I had no idea what it was about before watching it, and it was perfect like this. If you haven't seen it, go rent it and watch it alone at night without any disctractions!

The Descent is a work of art, as it manages to evoke genuine horror, something that 99% of all movies from this genre fail at miserably.

I still haven't seen Neil Marshall's other horror movie, Dog Soldiers; I'll have to rectify this situation asap.
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Ceph wrote:Maybe you weren't paying attention while watching it? The Descent is a masterful thrillride of psychological terror and gore, from start to finish. If you honestly can't see that, then either the relentlessly churned out load of z-grade gore movies has had a blunting effect on your sense of appreciation or you simply never had one in the first place. :P
I'm pretty sure I was paying attention to it. I generally do when I sit down to watch a movie. ;) I actually watched this with a friend over at his house and he didn't much care for it either.

And I'm really not one to see a movie just for gore. I like gore, but it's not a sole reason to see a movie for me. I am however more a fan of the well done B horror movie, especially when zombies are involved. The whole 'thrill' factor isn't really apparent to me with movies like Descent. Like I said, nothing is very tense or thrilling to me when I watch horror, so I guess I watch it for different reasons.
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Did you watch the US version?

I'd say the US ending makes the movie merely a 7/10.

The UK ending makes it a 9/10.
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Bullshit. The UK ending made it an 8.87/10 at the very most.
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Ceph wrote:Maybe you weren't paying attention while watching it?
whatever dude.......different ending or not, there was nothing original about the story, and god......those accents.... :roll: jokes

i thought it was bad, you thought it was good....end of story.....its a matter of tastes and preference....simple
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.....guess what...... that's how british english sounds....
people ...... from different countries..... have different accents......

......... ....... .............!
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Why do you type like that, johnny5? Do you have a short circuit?
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Ceph wrote:Why do you type like that, johnny5? Do you have a short circuit?
lolz.....nice one :lol:

i dunno....i type as if i was speaking.....i dont speak in paragraphs or sentences....i say something....i pause...then i say something else.....its understandable so ya.....it works.....

and why do people have so much trouble spelling my name....its right there on screen.....almost everybody spells it with an 'h' ....and they often capitalize it....as you have probably noticed im not a big fan of capital letters.....i type WAY to fast to be bothered with the shift key....i only really capitalize for emphasis or abbreviations

and i was kidding about the accent thing....just trying to get a rise out of ya.... :roll:

im actually going to re-watch the descent tonight just for you....cuz i honestly dont know what you are seeing in it.....and i think the version i have IS the UK version cuz i had it long before it was released stateside......i would check the case but...ummmm....ya....it....uhhhhh.....didnt come with one :wink:

i will post again with my second impression later this evening
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By the way, the article about you at Wikipedia is facing deletion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_5
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see they cant spell it either.....lolz
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I have to agree with Ceph that The Descent was indeed a good horror movie. I saw it in Belgium and I'm pretty sure it was the original better ending version.

Now turn the lights out and watch the original Omen 1 on your own.
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Concerning The Decent, I'm not sure if watching it again will accomplish anything for you, unfortunately. After all, you already know what's going to happen. However, not knowing what lies ahead is part of what creates the thrill, draws you in and makes you feel for the characters. Films like this really only work once. The second time you watch them, you may possibly spot small details that eluded you the first time, but you won't be able to recapture the atmosphere.

For instance Alien works only once.
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well....i havent watched it in like 3 years(?) so i dont remember every detail.....im watching it more to refresh my memory......cuz i know when i watched it originally i was kind of let down by it....but i forget specifically what i didnt like

and alien is great no matter how many times you watch it...i dont get scared by movies really, so its not really an issue if i know what is coming up....

more often than not i laugh through the scary parts....for example, the august underground series 'had me in stitches'

but im kind of unbalanced :lol: ...pain and death can be humorous from the right point of view.....

funny enough, i dont generally laugh at comedies.....well...some......im a sucker for low brow humor and dick and fart jokes.....lolz :roll:
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Ceph wrote:Did you watch the US version?

I'd say the US ending makes the movie merely a 7/10.

The UK ending makes it a 9/10.
The ending might be better, but then there's the matter of the whole middle part of the movie. :lol:

I read the different endings on Wikipedia. It's been a while since I watched it and it really wasn't that memorable of a movie for me, but I'm thinking I saw the regular American ending. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't a bad movie by any means, but definitely not one of my favorite horror movies. I gave it three of five stars on my Netflix account. No worries though, it seems as if I'm in the minority on this one as most people (including critics according to the Wiki article) seem to like it.

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Ceph wrote:For instance Alien works only once.
Really? Any time I catch that on TV I end up sitting there watching it. Purely a classic film.

DOUBLE EDIT:
Oh, and I want to go on record and say I hate the Omen. Always have, always will. Seriously the most unscary movie evar!
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The Hidden?

or is that considered sci-fi?

doesn't matter, the movie kicked ass.
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I thought The Descent was decent.

I can't by any stretch of the imagination condone anyone calling it a 'work of art', but I agree it was a very well constructed horror movie that recalled H.P. Lovecraft.
Tense, slick, and claustrophobic with an awesome (UK) ending.

However 'from start to finish' doesn't wash with me. It's agreed amongst those I've spoken to that the first twenty minutes make it seem as though you're about to watch one of the worst movies ever and the acting talent leaves something to be desired.

Thankfully the director did a good job of making a top notch movie out of a low budget cast, unlike Dog Soldiers, which I'd give a miss if I were you Ceph. :wink:
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Ceph> Absolutely concur that the UK ending of the Descent is far superior to the US ending; and indeed the US ending doesn't make any sense.

As far as tastes differing, I'm not going to play the game that there's some objective measure of what good horror is, but in my way of thinking, if you don't like the Descent, you probably also don't like Alien or the Thing. If you like one or two of these, but not all three, I ultimately don't get it, because in a way, they are all doing the same kind of thing, and that THING (whatever it is), is what I like.

I was hoping there were more recommendations out there for whatever that sort of thing is, but I actually am not surprised to see that there isn't.

Honestly, what I really don't get for the most part are the 'wait for teenagers to get attacked by slasher while at camp' films that proliferate the horror genre. I don't get it. I think everything I know about horror came from reading Lovecraft.
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so i forgot to watch the movie and played mushi all evening instead.....

i will more than likely watch it tomorrow afternoon cuz i get off at 1:30

and i loved alien......the whole series in fact....even resurrection.....

i think my main problem with the descent was that it didnt feel original to me.....very cut and paste.....

and to be honest the accents did kinda get on my nerves......for some odd reason british women talking make me cringe...and the descent is a movie with nothing but british women...nothing against british people of course......i have no idea why it bothers me....prolly some trauma as a kid??
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CMoon wrote:As far as tastes differing, I'm not going to play the game that there's some objective measure of what good horror is, but in my way of thinking, if you don't like the Descent, you probably also don't like Alien or the Thing. If you like one or two of these, but not all three, I ultimately don't get it, because in a way, they are all doing the same kind of thing, and that THING (whatever it is), is what I like.
Alien and The Thing are two of my favorite films. They may essentially do the same thing as Descent as far as plot elements go, but to mention them in same breath as "that movie" is pure blasphemy. Blasphemy I say! :lol:

Seriously though, the "crawlers" in Descent just suck IMO. I don't really care what is going on plot wise in most horror movies, I'll watch a drama for that. The monsters are far more important for me. Aliens and The Thing are amongst the best monsters ever conceived for the screen.

Like I said, I think it just comes down to the fact that we're watching these same types of movies for different reasons, which is fine. It just means suggesting things to each other is probably a bad idea. :wink:
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I see the problem now:
jonny5 wrote:and i loved alien......the whole series in fact....even resurrection.....
That explains it.
subcons wrote: I don't really care what is going on plot wise in most horror movies, [...] The monsters are far more important for me.
As does this.
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CMoon wrote:
I was hoping there were more recommendations out there for whatever that sort of thing is, but I actually am not surprised to see that there isn't.

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either am i
there's just not too many serious atmospheric horror films in the world..
hammer films are atmospheric but not scary.. gore/slasher films are just blood and guts with a jump or 2.
the amount of truly scary horror films that get under your skin could probably be counted on your fingers.. i think this is why i've gravitated towards sci-fi the last 2 years because there are more films that make you think..
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Ceph wrote:I see the problem now:
jonny5 wrote:and i loved alien......the whole series in fact....even resurrection.....
That explains it.
subcons wrote: I don't really care what is going on plot wise in most horror movies, [...] The monsters are far more important for me.
As does this.
Well, beyond the bad acting and characters that are uninteresting and unlikable, what else is there? Even though it's touted as a thriller with some sort of psychological depth to it, essentially it's a monster movie at its core. And when those monsters are poorly imagined and somewhat on par with C.H.U.D., it's just not helping to pull me into what's going on. Granted, I haven't seen the original ending, but after reading what that ending is, I still don't feel it would make the movie any better. It's fine that people like it, it's an alright movie after all. I just don't think it deserves as much praise as it gets, even for an arthouse indie film.

Also, it's pretty much a fact that anything beyond the second film in the Alien series is an abortion.
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subcons wrote:Also, it's pretty much a fact that anything beyond the first film in the Alien series is an abortion.
Fix'd. Not even debatable in my mind, Vietnam in space hasn't aged well.
Still, am entertaining movie but hilariously overrated.
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