Have you ever 1cc'd a Cave game?

Necronopticous · Post by **Necronopticous** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:44 pm

Yeah; in chronological order: DoDonPachi, Mushihimesama MANIAC, then Mushihimesama ORIGINAL.

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:07 pm

Pixel_Outlaw wrote:I'm fairly sure the Japanese commit ritual suicide if they fail too many times. It wouldn't help if they included little decorated sepuku swords with the special editions of their games.

Well they are in Samurai Shodown, graphically at least.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:09 pm

Pixel_Outlaw wrote:I'm fairly sure the Japanese commit ritual suicide if they fail too many times.

That's kind of an old thing.

ave · Post by **ave** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:20 pm

I 1cc'ed DDP, Espgaluda and Ketsui so far. Played DOJ a lot too though, but did not manage to get past mid stage 5.

Practice is all you need.

themachinist · Post by **themachinist** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:25 pm

I'm hoping to 1cc espgaluda. There are times when I can get to stage 4 and other times when I fail at the stage 2 boss, the last form with those weird saucers coming out the sides with the converging side-bullets coming horizontally combined with the boss's vertical shots just kill me.

Post by **spadgy** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:10 am

The level three boss is still a real wall for me in Progear, and the end boss in Mushi. Maybe I should have just gone for ESPgaluda for my first 1CC...

That said, so far I've only ever played Progear in a working arcade, and never at home or anywhere else. For me, to 1cc a game by just returning again and again to the arcade would be the 'ultimate' 1cc. A real 1cc if you see what I mean (though I don't want that to be taken as dispariging to a home 1cc. To do that of course is still incredible and completely respectable and real or whatever). Would just feel nice to do it with a credit that's actually a coin you don't get back...

Gwyrgyn Blood · Post by **Gwyrgyn Blood** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:06 pm

themachinist wrote:I'm hoping to 1cc espgaluda. There are times when I can get to stage 4 and other times when I fail at the stage 2 boss, the last form with those weird saucers coming out the sides with the converging side-bullets coming horizontally combined with the boss's vertical shots just kill me.

Try doing that pattern in Over mode, I find it's actually easier that way most of the time.

Necronopticous · Post by **Necronopticous** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:13 pm

spadgy wrote:For me, to 1cc a game by just returning again and again to the arcade would be the 'ultimate' 1cc.

Every arcade shmup I've ever 1cc'd has been in this fashion with the exception of Raiden Fighters Jet, which I did practice a bit at home, on MAME, before getting the 1cc on the cab.

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:28 pm

The level three boss is still a real wall for me in Progear

He's an absolute bastard for sure. As I mentioned, I did recently kill the punk and magically avoid his desperation attack for the first time, no bombs. I couldn't believe it. To top it off I pulled it off in Casino with a crowd of people around me.

Pressure is good!

Veracity · Post by **Veracity** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:48 pm

None here; closest I've come is dying a few times on the last stage of ESPGaluda shortly after getting it, but got distracted before doing anything about that. I can't score in Galuda for the world, anyway, so it wouldn't have made for much of a satisfactory clear even if I had - it's a fun game, but at the very least I'd file everything before stage four firmly in the 'a bit crap if you're not paying attention to the points' pile. DDP DOJ is the only other one I've spent more than a couple hours with, but I still suck spectacularly at that.

themachinist wrote:the last form with those weird saucers coming out the sides with the converging side-bullets coming horizontally combined with the boss's vertical shots just kill me

That bit isn't exactly HP-tastic, so you can always just bomb it out of the way if you're just trying to progress. I suspect you're 'supposed' to use bullet cancelling, but see above re: my ability to maintain any kind of decent green lump count.

Post by **spadgy** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:46 am

Skykid wrote:
The level three boss is still a real wall for me in Progear
He's an absolute bastard for sure. As I mentioned, I did recently kill the punk and magically avoid his desperation attack for the first time, no bombs. I couldn't believe it. To top it off I pulled it off in Casino with a crowd of people around me.

Pressure is good!

Nailed him last night at Casino! One bomb. The little shit. Now I have seen level four for the first time (I've resisted watching anything I haven't reached on youtube) and now I have to get used to that damn hori shooting but vert moving bit...

Oh... Skykid... do you know, is the Casino version the JAP or US version?

markedkiller78 · Post by **markedkiller78** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:25 am

spadgy wrote:
Skykid wrote:
The level three boss is still a real wall for me in Progear
He's an absolute bastard for sure. As I mentioned, I did recently kill the punk and magically avoid his desperation attack for the first time, no bombs. I couldn't believe it. To top it off I pulled it off in Casino with a crowd of people around me.

Pressure is good!

Nailed him last night at Casino! One bomb. The little shit. Now I have seen level four for the first time (I've resisted watching anything I haven't reached on youtube) and now I have to get used to that damn hori shooting but vert moving bit...

Oh... Skykid... do you know, is the Casino version the JAP or US version?

If you hear a scream when you die it's the Jap version.

I got ridiculously close to 1cc’n Esp Ra.de last night. I had the final form of Ms Garra down to about 1/8th of her energy.

The 4th level boss in Progear is a real bastard btw.

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:57 pm

Casino version?... you know I can't remember exactly, but I have a feeling its the US version because I don't remember the title screen logo displaying in Japanese (my one at home is Japanese.)

Spadgy, this causes me brain problems, because if the Casino one is actually the US release, that means that its (apparently) a tad easier than the Japanese version: and that means my achievement doesn't count for as much

No wonder I find it so tough at home! In Casino I nearly wiped out the fourth level boss!

Well done anyway, keep practicing dude, we can take that sucka together!

Post by **spadgy** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:15 pm

Skykid wrote:Casino version?... you know I can't remember exactly, but I have a feeling its the US version because I don't remember the title screen logo displaying in Japanese (my one at home is Japanese.)

Spadgy, this causes me brain problems, because if the Casino one is actually the US release, that means that its (apparently) a tad easier than the Japanese version: and that means my achievement doesn't count for as much

No wonder I find it so tough at home! In Casino I nearly wiped out the fourth level boss!

Well done anyway, keep practicing dude, we can take that sucka together!

You're at the London shmup meet aren't you? That will be our day to destroy Progear one after another...

Actually, I've never thought about it, but how's it play as a two player game? Horis often work better than verts in 2 player...

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:33 pm

Yeah, I'll see you there next week!

I wouldn't suggest Progear as a 2P for point scoring. Most Shmups require a whole new practice ethic when tackled with 2 player - but it'll certainly be fun to have a go with you. Don't nick all the power-ups n that!

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:14 pm

markedkiller78 wrote:The 4th level boss in Progear is a real bastard btw.

Truth.

Also, I suggest that you ask Casino to change the difficulty, Skykid?

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:51 am

themachinist wrote:I'm hoping to 1cc espgaluda. There are times when I can get to stage 4 and other times when I fail at the stage 2 boss, the last form with those weird saucers coming out the sides with the converging side-bullets coming horizontally combined with the boss's vertical shots just kill me.

Stay in the center and take out the first few rows of saucers, then move to the right and just dodge bullets. When you're in the center of the screen, the saucers are eating most of your firepower, rather than the boss, and the pattern can take ages. If you move to the side, however, you start hitting one of the protusions on the boss, and he drops pretty quickly so you don't have to deal with the pattern for very long.

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:07 pm

LGB wrote:
markedkiller78 wrote:The 4th level boss in Progear is a real bastard btw.
Truth.

Also, I suggest that you ask Casino to change the difficulty, Skykid?

We'll do our best to have it set to the Japanese standard (so US difficulty 2, as someone mentioned either here or in a different thread.)

That way the scoring will be accurate and allowed to be entered to the high score table here on shmups!

Will you be there next week dude?

Post by **spadgy** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:14 pm

Skykid wrote:Yeah, I'll see you there next week!

I wouldn't suggest Progear as a 2P for point scoring. Most Shmups require a whole new practice ethic when tackled with 2 player - but it'll certainly be fun to have a go with you. Don't nick all the power-ups n that!

I play a handful of shmups kind of regularly on 2-player mode with my wife - believe me, I've learned not to nick all the power ups!

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:19 pm

Skykid wrote:We'll do our best to have it set to the Japanese standard (so US difficulty 2, as someone mentioned either here or in a different thread.)

That way the scoring will be accurate and allowed to be entered to the high score table here on shmups!

Yup. So much more fun on 4 for some reason. It's the same way with GigaWing.

Speaking of which...

themachinist · Post by **themachinist** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:27 am

Arvandor wrote:
themachinist wrote:I'm hoping to 1cc espgaluda. There are times when I can get to stage 4 and other times when I fail at the stage 2 boss, the last form with those weird saucers coming out the sides with the converging side-bullets coming horizontally combined with the boss's vertical shots just kill me.
Stay in the center and take out the first few rows of saucers, then move to the right and just dodge bullets. When you're in the center of the screen, the saucers are eating most of your firepower, rather than the boss, and the pattern can take ages. If you move to the side, however, you start hitting one of the protusions on the boss, and he drops pretty quickly so you don't have to deal with the pattern for very long.

Hey thanks. I now use a combination of that and kakusei

. I can make it to lvl 4 consistently now, yay.

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Have you ever 1cc'd a Cave game?

Have you 1CC'd a Cave game?