Death Smiles: Countdown to North America Invasion

bay · Post by **bay** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:04 pm

Dave_K. wrote:
bay wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote: Well, congrats.
anything worth nothing being said in the 2ch thread?
You mean anything worth noteing? I'm sure like this thread, there is lots worth nothing being said.

i gotta stop hitting submit before reading what i post.... and you're right on the mark on nothing.

incognoscente · Post by **incognoscente** » Fri May 11, 2007 3:23 am

Removed posts dumped here.

This thread is unlocked for now. If it degenerates again, expect a re-lock.

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Fri May 11, 2007 3:44 am

Is this going for a kind of macabre theme? Maybe it'll pull it off better than Karous did.

Post by **Icarus** » Fri May 11, 2007 3:48 am

I wouldn't mind seeing a return to Guwange-style, both in graphical style and experimental gameplay.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri May 11, 2007 4:54 am

I thought Karous' best point was "theme". Definitely wasn't graphics.

This should be pretty fun though, although I'm not sure how well a "dark" game is going to work in 2D w/ sprites. Doesn't that make shadowing kind of tough?

Cheers to the mods for the unlock.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Fri May 11, 2007 9:52 am

GaijinPunch wrote:I'm not sure how well a "dark" game is going to work in 2D w/ sprites.

You've never played a Castlevania before?. What about Guwange or Esprade?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri May 11, 2007 1:06 pm

Castlevania yes, but it's not exactly the same game. ESPRade & Guwange... most of those games take place out side, many stages in somewhat light backgrounds. I'm thinking dark... along the lines of Karous... although I know it doesn't have to be.

cigsthecat · Post by **cigsthecat** » Fri May 11, 2007 3:53 pm

No he's right. 3D invented shadows.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri May 11, 2007 9:13 pm

Say whatever you want about Cave, but presentation is rarely a problem for them...I don't think we have much to worry about on that front.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat May 12, 2007 12:55 am

but presentation is rarely a problem for them

I don't think it ever has. Reaching back into the depths of my brain, I recall some creative quarrels over how dark the backgrounds were to be in parts of ESPRade.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Sat May 12, 2007 3:48 pm

snore...

Honestly, MMP was annouced and play-tested recently and now something new? It would be interesting to see what it´s all about but at the moment were are far from discussing that. Perhaps from my standpoint having only played home ports from Cave I just the interest just isn´t there as much.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat May 12, 2007 3:57 pm

Limbrooke wrote:Honestly, MMP was annouced and play-tested recently and now something new?

This has been their pattern for a couple of years now. Since Mushihime-sama, basically.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Sun May 13, 2007 1:56 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:
Limbrooke wrote:Honestly, MMP was annouced and play-tested recently and now something new?
This has been their pattern for a couple of years now. Since Mushihime-sama, basically.

Cave's current strategy to hype up their latest upcoming arcade shmup PCB title is working -- it gets the worldwide arcade shmup fans all salivating with glee & giddyness... ^_~

And does Cave realize that there is an international arcade market for their latest arcade PCBs? Best not to ignore that market base (outside of Japan) and would be in their best interest to release two versions: original JPN Bios version & the other, an all-English Bios version would make sense in today's international arcade PCB market scene..... ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Sun May 13, 2007 2:02 pm

PC Engine Fan X! wrote:And does Cave realize that there is an international arcade market for their latest arcade PCBs? Best not to ignore that market base (outside of Japan) and would be in their best interest to release two versions: original JPN Bios version & the other, an all-English Bios version would make sense in today's international arcade PCB market scene..... ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

There's no point, they know we'll buy them in Japanese language anyway

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Sun May 13, 2007 3:19 pm

PC Engine Fan X! wrote: And does Cave realize that there is an international arcade market for their latest arcade PCBs? Best not to ignore that market base (outside of Japan)

that market consists of about 20 people.

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Sun May 13, 2007 5:44 pm

Macaw wrote:
PC Engine Fan X! wrote: And does Cave realize that there is an international arcade market for their latest arcade PCBs? Best not to ignore that market base (outside of Japan)

that market consists of about 20 people.

True.

I showed DoDonPachi in school once, everyone didn't want to play it.

"Too Hard."

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sun May 13, 2007 11:11 pm

My "reason there are no arcades in the west" comment holds very true why "there are no Cave releases in the west". They don't make money. PCBs? They would sell more privately than to arcades.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Sun May 13, 2007 11:56 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:
Limbrooke wrote:Honestly, MMP was annouced and play-tested recently and now something new?
This has been their pattern for a couple of years now. Since Mushihime-sama, basically.

Maybe that's why I feel this trend is a bit tiring.
All the same, until there is play footage and or screenshots I'm sticking to... snore.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon May 14, 2007 3:15 am

Limbrooke wrote: All the same, until there is play footage and or screenshots I'm sticking to... snore.

To which I would reply, "what was the last bad arcade game Cave made"? Or the depressing side of the argument, when is the last time another company has made a really good one.

rtw · Post by **rtw** » Mon May 14, 2007 6:15 am

Curious, where did the title Tenshi no Juusha come from ? And what does it mean ?

rtw

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon May 14, 2007 7:39 am

rtw wrote:Curious, where did the title Tenshi no Juusha come from ? And what does it mean ?

rtw

Apparently the questionairre card which I didn't check. That's what danmakugata reported. Tenshi is an angel. A juusha is a guardian of sorts. "Guardian Angel" is a pretty good translation I'd say.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Mon May 14, 2007 10:24 am

GaijinPunch wrote:ESPRade & Guwange... most of those games take place out side, many stages in somewhat light backgrounds.

Stage 3 in Guwange was at night, and it looked gorgeous. It is also my favourite part of the game, one of the most atmospheric stages in a shmup ever. And Garegga was the total fucking darkness ever. So this shouldn´t be a problem IMHO.

And somehow, I got a Guwange vibe from that flyer, too, but I have absolutely no idea why. Maybe they´ll do another "walking" shmup.

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Mon May 14, 2007 11:16 am

FrederikJurk wrote: And somehow, I got a Guwange vibe from that flyer, too, but I have absolutely no idea why. Maybe they´ll do another "walking" shmup.

No chance, the chick has wings.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Mon May 14, 2007 1:05 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:
Limbrooke wrote: All the same, until there is play footage and or screenshots I'm sticking to... snore.
To which I would reply, "what was the last bad arcade game Cave made"? Or the depressing side of the argument, when is the last time another company has made a really good one.

Define bad?

It's debatable of course given the track record seems to favour the positive side although to each their own. Even a well made game can be seen as bad, which is my case for Guwange. No fun factor found there, yet.

I'm feeling kind of apathetic at the moment anyway, making it hard to say what Cave games I really like, pardon Espgaluda. That goes in-hand with the 2nd part of your reply.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon May 14, 2007 2:45 pm

Limbrooke wrote: Guwange. No fun factor found there, yet.

Trust me, you're doing something wrong.

Dandy J · Post by **Dandy J** » Mon May 14, 2007 7:15 pm

Macaw wrote: No chance, the chick has wings.

maybe they are like penguin wings

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Mon May 14, 2007 7:24 pm

Dandy J wrote:
Macaw wrote: No chance, the chick has wings.
maybe they are like penguin wings

Then she'd be swimming, not walking.

Nuke · Post by **Nuke** » Mon May 14, 2007 7:33 pm

DJ Rectal Prolapse wrote:
Dandy J wrote:
Macaw wrote: No chance, the chick has wings.
maybe they are like penguin wings
Then she'd be swimming, not walking.

A Swim-em-up?

glitch · Post by **glitch** » Mon May 14, 2007 8:19 pm

Dandy J wrote:
Macaw wrote: No chance, the chick has wings.
maybe they are like penguin wings

maybe it's just cosplay.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Tue May 15, 2007 12:03 am

glitch wrote: maybe it's just cosplay.

Yeah, the whole game could take place in Harajuku.