ST: Raiden DX

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:50 pm

Ahhh.

I'm a moron...i officially apologize for the delay, infinite thanks to Icarus who made the best work in the guide, of course, sorry mate ;______;

Post by **Icarus** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:10 pm

Heh, no problems mate ^_-
Always glad to help.

Don't expect an Expert Mission one for a long time, mind, since I'm leaving that one for the next break from my current rotation ^_^

Arcader · Post by **Arcader** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:33 pm

Thanx for answering that question Icarus

Ive seen those vids, they're pretty good. Ive never played the PSX version but it looks easier then the arcade on the same difficulty and also I have noticed some other differences from the arcade.

In training mission when you come across those 3 tanks with the multiple turrets I noticed on the PSX version that you cannot destroy them before they get a shot off at you. In the arcade version you can kill them all before they have a chance to fire a shot.

Another difference I noticed was that in mission Bravo that the second Amphibius tank cannot be destroyed quickly, but in the arcade version you can destroy the second one without it firing its main weapon.

Post by **Icarus** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:39 pm

Arcader wrote:...I've never played the PSX version but it looks easier then the arcade on the same difficulty...

That's because I was playing on the game's default dfficulty, Normal. The game also has Arcade difficulty, which recreates the actual arcade difficulty quite faithfully. I haven't got round to playing and capturing the game in Arcade diff, mainly because I'm no longer playing it (currently).

rtw · Post by **rtw** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:04 pm

Just a sound question...

Randorama wrote:“Raiden”, as you may know, means roughly “divine thunder”. The first game, as you may know, was basically a doujin homage to early Toaplan titles, with a cover of Flying Shark’s second stage song (“Gallantry”, second stage of the first Raiden). The first Raiden was extremely influential, especially for the original creators of that style

Is "Gallantry" correct ? BGM 2 & 7 of Raiden is called "Lightning war". While the BGM 2 of Flying Shark is called "Against The Attack".

If you listen to both songs in M1 (Use the lists and the frontend BridgeM1) they are pretty similar.

rtw

Post by **nZero** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:29 pm

rtw wrote:Is "Gallantry" correct ? BGM 2 & 7 of Raiden is called "Lightning war". While the BGM 2 of Flying Shark is called "Against The Attack".

If you listen to both songs in M1 (Use the lists and the frontend BridgeM1) they are pretty similar.

Regarding the names, you're correct. Gallantry is the theme used for the first and fourth stages of Raiden, and the first stage of all courses in Raiden DX.

Regarding the Toaplan homage, "Lightning War" also seems to bear some resemblance to sections of the music to the first stage of Tatsujin (Truxton) and to the first stage song of Hellfire as well.

As an aside, those familiar with the SNES port of Raiden might be tempted to call that track "Rough and Tumble", as the music order was screwed up in that version and the tracknames in the soundtest not changed to compensate.

It's interesting to note that Lightning War was the only stage music from Raiden to not reappear in Raiden DX.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:58 am

An interesting note about 2p (and sorry if you mentioned this Rando, I only skimmed over the relevant sections), 1p can actually shoot 2p's missiles, and vice versa, creating a sort of spread out attack.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:25 pm

will check and edit, eventually (shouldn't be in the guide, though...), thanks for the Heads-up.

Post by **Icarus** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:19 pm

Rando, due to me closing fw.net indefinitely, I've had to rehost the images used in my contributions to your guide at my portfolio webspace. I've updated my posts in this thread with updated links. If you need the raw BBCode for your main post, I've uploaded them here:

Training Missing Guide
Novice Mission Guide

They're in Rich Text Format (.rtf) so you can open them in Wordpad (on PC) or TextEdit (on Mac).

Let me know if you need some help with them.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:26 pm

Ok, i will contact you in the week-end to solve the issue...sad to see the site go, but that's life (yay for trite phrases

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CIT · Post by **CIT** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:55 pm

A question:

When starting Training course the letters "ENTERING TRAINING STAGE" appear on screen. Sometimes they are yellow, sometimes they are green. Any meaning to this?

A correction:

About the third gold pyramid in training.

And the first tank must pass the four grey silos (of which need to be activated and destroyed, marked in the third screenshot).

Actually it is not necessary for the first tank to pass the four silos. You can kill it sooner and the gold pyramid will still appear, as long as you did the other steps correctly.

Pulstar · Post by **Pulstar** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:05 pm

Randorama wrote: 3.1.3 CHARLIE MISSION

...The amount of medals also seems to be a tad lower, with just one Miclus per stage.

Who verified that? I've had more than one Miclus myself, and that clip I posted over in the Raiden DX score section also shows 2 in only a small section of the stage.

Mills · Post by **Mills** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:44 am

Was just reading the intro and its pretty comprehensive stuff. must have taken ages to gather all this info together.

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:25 pm

Having just played this game again I'm reminded of just what a sniper fire blood-boiling game this is

. You are very welcome to it Mills.

Halloween Jack · Post by **Halloween Jack** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:06 pm

DEL wrote:Having just played this game again I'm reminded of just what a sniper fire blood-boiling game this is . You are very welcome to it Mills.

I'd go with that DEL

- took the day off work, picked up a long-time gaming buddy, and spent five hours on the sucker. My PCB isn't blessed with an auto-fire C button, so it was heavy going - managed to complete Alpha mission on one credit, but still scored < 1 million

Punishing and masochistic

HJ

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:23 pm

^Well I only play Charlie/Advanced Mission HJ, and the amount of sniper deaths from the sides really boils my blood. I don't have the temprament for this game.
That's why The Old Mills is gonna show me a few loops on it when I re-install it in the arcade (whether he likes it or not

).

EDIT:- Oh and by the way, my supergun just blew up

. I'll have to cart it round to local fix-it boy Fire-Bug.

Halloween Jack · Post by **Halloween Jack** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:41 pm

DEL wrote:^Well I only play Charlie/Advanced Mission HJ

Wouldn't expect anything less DEL

, personally I have to reassign myself to a more modest challenge

DEL wrote:^EDIT:- Oh and by the way, my supergun just blew up . I'll have to cart it round to local fix-it boy Fire-Bug.

Oh no, bad news indeed - Hope you get it sorted soon.

Cheers

HJ

Mills · Post by **Mills** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:32 pm

DEL wrote:^Well I only play Charlie/Advanced Mission HJ, and the amount of sniper deaths from the sides really boils my blood. I don't have the temprament for this game.
That's why The Old Mills is gonna show me a few loops on it when I re-install it in the arcade (whether he likes it or not ).

EDIT:- Oh and by the way, my supergun just blew up . I'll have to cart it round to local fix-it boy Fire-Bug.

not for another month now ive missed bob again and YOU cant be bothered to sort out your damn phone.

Post by **spadgy** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:29 pm

Am I correct that the EOL bonuses are the same as the ones awarded when you reach the game over screen without making it to the end of the loop?

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:55 am

I'm not sure what exactly you mean, but reaching a new loop doesn't give you any special bonus points per se.

Post by **nZero** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:12 am

I thought he meant if you managed to advance from Alpha to Bravo, or Bravo to Charlie. As far as I know it's the same as if you died or just completed the mission without meeting the advance requirements.

Post by **spadgy** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:14 pm

Sorry! I'm not being clear enough!

What I meant is this:

You get the End of Loop bonus when you 1CC one of the missions, Alpha, Bravo or Charlie, right?

However, lets say I have a rubbish run and loose all my lives before making a 1CC. When I get the game over screen, are they the same bonuses as the End of Loop bonus.

In fact, nZero may have alread answered my question as he says 'just died'.

cools · Post by **cools** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:14 pm

Does anyone know anything about the infinite lives bug?

Or is the mate of mine who's triggered it twice on my board just magic?

(I've left it looping for a few hours now, it's ridiculous)

Pulstar · Post by **Pulstar** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:21 am

spadgy wrote:However, lets say I have a rubbish run and loose all my lives before making a 1CC. When I get the game over screen, are they the same bonuses as the End of Loop bonus.

In fact, nZero may have alread answered my question as he says 'just died'.

Basically he did, yes. You can risk getting lower guts/secrets ratings for dying earlier, only because you'll have had less opportunity to bump the stats, but you still get the same types of bonuses.

antron · Post by **antron** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:55 pm

Halloween Jack wrote:My PCB isn't blessed with an auto-fire C button, so it was heavy going

but some DX PCBs do have it?

cools · Post by **cools** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:58 pm

The two I've had have full auto on C.

Pulstar · Post by **Pulstar** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:57 pm

I played a couple arcade machines that had it. It's kind of annoying since there are places where it can mess up your timing if you're trying to get all the medals at full points. Turbo fire is best.

cools · Post by **cools** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:48 pm

My board infinite life glitched half a dozen times during IC09. Mildly annoying.

Only seemed to do it with P2 - possibly some correlation there.

cools · Post by **cools** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:45 pm

Nailed it this morning - I know what's going on now.

Hit a start button to get the level select (P1 or P2 depending on which ship you want), then use the other start button to begin the game.

Game starts with no lives displayed on screen, and you have infinite lives.

Works on my Fabtek licensed USA board. Can anyone try it on the Japanese?

tetsujin · Post by **tetsujin** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:38 pm

cools wrote:Nailed it this morning - I know what's going on now.

Hit a start button to get the level select (P1 or P2 depending on which ship you want), then use the other start button to begin the game.

Game starts with no lives displayed on screen, and you have infinite lives.

Works on my Fabtek licensed USA board. Can anyone try it on the Japanese?

I just tried it on my Jap board and it does the same thing.
Must be the way of doing the ~Training/Alpha mission with infinite lives

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