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GaijinPunch wrote:
Skykid wrote: I forget most Hollywood movies five minutes after watching them.
I won't argue with that, but the problem is that your sources for high caliber production are totally fucked up, and we've all told you until we're blue in the face. Living in China is no excuse.
I don't know about the blue in the face thing but actually living in China is an excuse because the great firewall is a major pain in the ass. My VPN is good but my net connection too slow to make it really functional and I'm unable to upgrade to a new contract until we move into the new home. Also, the best movies on in the theatre are Chinese and it's 50/50 if they have English subs. The foreign movies the Chinese board picks up are often the absolute bottom of the barrel, like Jason Statham caliber. So my options may not be limited but my sources certainly are.

It's true PPTV is the best thing evar but I haven't scoped out the TV section yet. Here's hoping for something good that's not dubbed.

@MX7 I have a lesson now, but don't hold your breath. It hasn't broken any quality barriers.
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Edge of Tomorrow

It's a good popcorn movie, mainly because, although nothing especially new, its groundhog day format is enough to make it entertaining for the duration. Of course, expect no intelligence and you won't be insulted - this is a screenplay as half-baked from a logic point of view as everything else in the Hollywood blockbuster category and subsequently chock full of utter stupidity that you need to calmly overlook.

Things like:
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- The thinness of the time reset premise serving as a vehicle for an interesting movie format. "Oh look, these aliens can reset time and because you absorbed their blood, you can too - because human beings are very likely to be a symbiotic species with an alien race who look like Bob Marley's hair on liquid nitrogen.

- If the aliens can reset time and know Cage is coming, why don't they just reset time to prevent him reaching the Omega in the same way they reset time to win the war. That's surely the dumbest missing link in the movie, especially since they already acknowledged the Omega can find him by telepathy.

- How utterly unbelievable it is that Tom Cruise - a character who has been introduced as a deserter that will do anything to get out of combat, manages to convince an entire crew of soliders to fly with him to Paris on the very first meeting. Granted him knowing all their backgrounds might be a fancy trick, but abandoning base the night before the biggest conflict to fight alongside him at the Louvre - that bunch of dumbheads? No way Jose. They also managed to skip the part where they all magically got out of the base and commandeered a dropship.
Anyway, allowing yourself to look past the holes, stupidity, and inconsistencies usually present in such movies, there's fun to be had. The first twenty minutes are a bit oh dear-ish, but once the reset begins it becomes progressively more engaging.

Performance wise Cruise has got to this kind of serviceable level. He's not an actor as such, and never will be, but he can ably fit into a character role where you just accept him as Tom Cruise and is likeable enough. Emily Blunt was well cast aesthetically, but also quite bland and also just about serviceable.

Bar Bill Paxton the supporting cast are fucking atrocious - utterly useless - and served to highlight all the scripting weaknesses. It all feels so Aliens wannabee and all so mis-timed, poorly delivered and haphazardly written that it errs on embarassing. Script is one issue, but the acting, particularly amongst the generic rag tag squaddies, is appalling. The best way to describe it is like a portion of the Big Brother house winning a task where they get to be in a Hollywood movie, being dumped straight in and made to reel off lines. It's that amateurish.

The promise of the design and visual concept is baked up to about half its potential. It's really all about the suits and the bitch sword - remove those from the set and it would look pretty generic. The alien design is also average at best.

The combat and special effects sequences are good and there's a little tension here and there. I think it falls into that middle section where it's almost an inspiring fresh concept marred by formulaic Hollywood superficiality and thin scripting.

Not overly memorable but better than some, I'd recommend this on a no-brain entertainment basis. See it once (but please only once) and enjoy it for the gimmicky but engaging premise and big explosions. Additionally, the video game theory is undeniable, meaning there's an additional layer of intrigue for us pattern learning fruitcakes. That Cruise basically needs to learn enemy strategy to battle through the movie to defeat boss has clear parallels to gaming concept, and although it doesn't do anything especially more than that, it's still kind of nice play the game alongside him.
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Controra - House of Shadows
Megan (Fiona Glascott), the protagonist, is an Irish painter, rather successful but unaware that her real talent is as a medium and "witch". Her husband Leonardo takes her for a summer vacation to his native small town by the sea in southern Italy, where he has inherited the decaying and haunted but formerly luxurious family house; his brother Nicola, who happens to be the priest of the apparently only parish in town, wants to buy it.
Following the finest tradition of natural selection, Megan decides to stay at the house and promptly begins to see ghosts, leading her to investigate the past of the family of her husband, whose most important member was another clergyman, Leo's uncle Domenico, on his way to become a saint (and increase Nicola's prestige).
She gradually uncovers everything that can be uncovered, but as could be expected it does her little good...

There are many interesting aspects (not all good) in this film.
  • The ghosts are clearly established, from the beginning, as the completely harmless victims of something really bad that happened a long time ago, and this makes Megan substantially more creepy and dangerous than them, particularly after certain "accidents". The instances of ghosts seeing Megan are appropriately scarier than the opposite.
  • An egregious example of film commission whoring. Three are involved and, along with the Italian-Irish coproduction, dictate locations: sunny places in Apulia (but everybody speaks with an unrealistically mild and vaguely southern accent), rainy places near Brixen (with the excuse that mons. Domenico worked there for a long time), some Irish city with a river. All these places are well served with panoramic shots and look really good.
  • Returning to the plots and atmospheres of the golden age of Italian horror: crime, secrets, madness, mild supernatural aspects, some violence, a few doubts. This films falls on the most delicate end of the spectrum; almost everybody dies off stage, and there are very few gross scenes and even less irony. Sex is limited to Megan making love with her husband, once, before being absorbed by other priorities.
  • Unusually arduous editing, with many important events and scenes which appear to have been planned but cut and a great deal of more deliberate ellipses and possibly reordering.
  • Outstanding photography, particularly the management and special effects of light and shadow.
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Deathwish 3 and 4

Man, these movies really took a turn for the worse. Bad acting, really weird camera work, and unconvincing special effects just make for a bad viewing experience.

Deathwish 1 and 2 were classics. It's as if they ran out of ideas and just capitalized on the name after that.
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Finally checked out Edge of Tomorrow in Real-D 3D format...the added perception of layered dimensional depth really does make EoT shine (compared to watching it in traditional 2-D viewing via DLP format). Of course, it's Sony Image Pictureworks Inc. whom did most of the CG EFX with various contracted 3rd-party CG EFX houses (i.e. -- Mr. X and the like) doing the remainder of the smaller grunt CG workload.

One key scene reminds me of the infamous D-Day scene from WWII but with the futuristic weaponry like the strapable armored exoskeletal enhancement devices, claymore mines, etc. for something a bit different for added punch/visual flair.

Clocking at an hour and 53 minutes, it's standard summer action movie fare as usual. The original story of "All I Need to Kill" was the basis for the theatrical version of EoT, indeed. I sure got my $11.25's worth out of checking out EoT in 3D...can't wait for the 3D Blu-Ray disc set of EoT when it's finally released at retail.

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Spent the afternoon watching Heat, great movie. I saw it 10 or 15 years ago but remembered almost nothing, so this was essentially a first viewing.

I agree with what Mischief Maker said re: the relationships. The final scene is so well staged, with the two leads stalking each other in a desolate field intermittently illumined by passing planes. You just couldn't ask for a better location, thematically. Loved the final shot with the blinking, pulsing lights too. Very painterly framing. I liked the soundtrack and sound design too.

I don't understand why Skykid hates the dialogue so much... I think it fits the stylized, masculine, charged atmosphere. Its comic booky in the way its divorced from any kind of social reality, but I still found it moving for what it was. Basically a melodrama, but an enjoyable one.

Too lazy to type out deeper thoughts but I'll have more to say about it to CMoon and all at the next socal shmupmeet, hehe.
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I never said I hated the dialogue, I just said it's unremarkable.

I also think MM's interpretation is as interesting as it is incorrect - I don't think that level of character depth is intentional or even exists: such foresight is certainly too complex to be implemented by such a one-dimensional director as Mann. But if false interpretation makes it more interesting, I can't blame people for trying.
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SuperGrafx wrote:Deathwish 3 and 4

Man, these movies really took a turn for the worse. Bad acting, really weird camera work, and unconvincing special effects just make for a bad viewing experience.

Deathwish 1 and 2 were classics. It's as if they ran out of ideas and just capitalized on the name after that.
Death Wish 3 is still goofy fun, if only for the funky soundtrack and straight-out-of-Final-Fight badguys. Death Wish 4's only good feature is its ending-credits theme. Pure smoov.

I don't know if I'd call Death Wish 2 a classic, but it definitely has a grindhouse appeal. It's not as good as Death Wish 1 though. It must be the lack of Jeff Goldblum. That and the increased shock value to make things even slimier than Death Wish 1 - it felt like it had a lot more low-blows just to rattle the audience.

Expect a drauch post, if not to justify Death Wish 2 on an artistic level, at least justify it on an entertainment level.
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Skykid wrote:I also think MM's interpretation is as interesting as it is incorrect
Just as long as I'm interesting!

Again, years and years of foggy recollection, but the main reason for me taking that interpretation is all the attention the movie lavishes on the Allstate guy. For a heist movie, he's a ridiculously unimportant character, a last-minute getaway driver who gets killed right away. But for a relationship movie, the decision to join the heist and his sudden death have all the reason in the world to be in the film.

Also, I call this a relationship movie for guys because it makes statements no Nora Ephron movie would dare make. The allstate guy's wife is the most supportive female character in the movie. He comes home from a hard day's work and she's completely in his corner to psyche him back up. Isn't that enough? In a movie aimed at a female demographic, the allstate guy would realize in the end what a wonderful woman he has and start whistling his way through his shit job then bring her home a bouquet of flowers.

Not so in Heat. Heat says her support is most definitely not enough, nor can it be. In fact, it's probably adding even more stress to the situation because he has to keep his chin up at home as well, "There's no hard time I can't do!" or something to that effect. That's a guy truth. Hence, my assertion that it's a relationship movie by and for men.
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Don't get me wrong, I encourage interpretation whenever possible, that's what performing arts and film is all about. In this particular case, I just think you're giving credit where it isn't due.

Heat is far from an example of fine film and far from deserving of in-depth analysis - it has far too many weaknesses and missed opportunities. To commend it with a deep psychological subtext that is most likely completely unintentional is like saying Roger Rabbit is actually a critical commentary on the prohibition.
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Skykid wrote:To commend it with a deep psychological subtext that is most likely completely unintentional is like saying Roger Rabbit is actually a critical commentary on the prohibition.
Of course not! "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" is a critical commentary on the General Motors streetcar conspiracy, specifically the environmental damage caused to the Los Angeles area by the loss of mass public transit.
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Rented "Rush" over the weekend. Can say that, while it was certainly a good and enjoyable movie, I know for certain that it would have been better seeing it in the theater, and better still in a large format/IMAX theater (don't know that, if it offered 3D, it would add anything, though). Very well-written, and suitably acted, though I think Hemsworth is still learning the trade, so I'm being a bit generous in his direction. If, in another 5-7 years, he's still pulling the "I can play the same part/attitude in every movie, just so long as I've got a ripped body" card, I'm going to file him under Tom Cruise-wannabe.

I'd recommend "Rush", but I also watched "Premium Rush" last night on one of the free movie channels. Let's just say that no one can ever make the argument that JGL doesn't make paycheck movies, because this one is basically crap, and a whole bunch of it. Odd, considering the two titles.
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Godzilla


Absolute crap.

The first 25 minutes has hope, before inexplicably killing off the only two people who can act and quickly descending into a spectacle of formulaic soullessness on an epic scale.

The script is laughably bad, from the toe curling I love yous to the inane cliche soldier speak.

"She'll take a lickin' and keep on tickin''"

Groan.

Special mention has to go to the lead actor, a young unknown playing a brain dead navy man named Ford, like the car. Without a doubt the worst actor in the movie, and that's saying something considering how fucking useless his wife and son are, and that insufferable neurotic English scientist woman. No, even more so than the cast of painful one-dimensional nothings running around purposely barking lines while things blow up in the background, Ford outshines them all in duh points. His audition must have comprised of "can you say every line with a slightly puzzled look - not an expression, mind, we don't want you to accidentally try to act - but just kind of stare and make your eyebrows look puzzled."

Stupefyingly awful.

The film has no character whatsoever. You certainly won't care about Ford or his dumb wife and kid - they're the type of thick vacuous family you make excuses to when they invite you for dinner because you have absolutely no patience for watching brain cells die. And Ford doesn't care much about them either, gallivanting pointlessly around San Fran while it's being levelled with absolutely no concern for the whereabouts of his family.

I shit you not, that Matthew Broderick/Hank Azaria Godzilla was shit, but it was more entertaining than this. It at least had characters. This has nothing driving it except special effects. Everything else is totally unrewarding in every possible way.

I was so bored I tried to count the amount of utterly stupid scientific errors, then the stupidity of the character's actions, and finally the slow-zoom-into-staring-face camera shots, and totally lost the number of the latter.

A total waste of time, this is a superb example of how to waste a budget that could save Africa on an absolute pile of drivel. The Godzilla design was good, the CG soon tiresome, the fighting perfectly average, the rest not worth mentioning.

It was fucking awful, actually, but I did like the opening credits.

That was about it though.
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Drum wrote:I liked Godzilla a bunch. It was a slow-cooker (which I think was pretty gutsy in this day and age for a blockbuster) but the bright moments were great.
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I would say it's more "disappointingly average" than "absolute crap." The first half-hour was much better than anything in the rest of the movie, outside of maybe the fem-muto takedown.

Pacific Rim remains the superior monster movie!
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Agreed on the timeframe for interest, but I'd say it's more "fucking garbage" than "disappointingly average".

Shit with a capital SHIT.

I'm amaze at how Gareth Edwards could so successfully debut with Rise of the Planet of the Apes, a surprisingly well conceived and directed reboot, and then return with such paint by numbers schlock with none of the same personality or creativity that made the former so entertaining.

You think someone might have told him, Ed, there ain't much Godzilla in the movie and you've cast the dumbest most useless blockhead to carry everything else. We're not sure if seven-thousand slow-zooms-into-staring-faces are going to cover it.

I can only blame the producer system I suppose. Where your guns at, open fire!
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Well I doubt any American director with a Hollywood budget was going to rival the charm and enjoyability of the Toho films. Godzilla '14 wanted to be something of an action movie for the Bayformers generation (ugh!), which more or less meant that it couldn't take a whole lot of risks or have any "edge" to it that would have made it have its own personality. I think Edwards wanted to have a slow-buildup, but at the same time after Godzilla was revealed, that should have been the shift of the movie TO Godzilla instead of watching giant cockroaches munch on nukes like tootsie rolls.

I guess I would have made it all hardcore "edgy" with people dying left and right, government/scientist/corporate conspiracies and all that b-movie stuff.. There was probably too much pressure to portray the military as the good guys, the scientists as the good guys, Godzilla as the good guy (fucking LOL with people clapping for Godzilla in the stadium - only in America! Or maybe Japan; there's probably a comparable scene in the Toho films).

The movie should have been all Cranston, all the time. Watanabe, as much as I like him, looked befuddled the whole time.

Again, Pacific Rim is popcorn entertainment that I will remember; I unfortunately see G'14 as popcorn entertainment that's pretty damn forgettable. That's pretty sad for a monster flick. Cloverwho? Whatzilla?
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I've already forgotten what happened in Godzilla. I saw it the day it came out - maybe if it had already been named #1 summer blockbuster I would have hated it more. ;)
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EmperorIng wrote:Godzilla as the good guy (fucking LOL with people clapping for Godzilla in the stadium - only in America! Or maybe Japan; there's probably a comparable scene in the Toho films).
Reportedly, Japanese audiences cheered when Godzilla destroyed the Japanese Parliament. (Or something like that, my Japanese Civ class memories may be off.)
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Sly Cherry Chunks wrote:I've already forgotten what happened in Godzilla. I saw it the day it came out - maybe if it had already been named #1 summer blockbuster I would have hated it more. ;)
you pretty much summed up my feelings as well. saw it opening night, can't remember much about it. other then it was shit.


saw an interesting documentary: Chasing Ice. massive calving event is captured (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC3VTgIPoGU). it's incredible.
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Mischief Maker wrote:
Skykid wrote:To commend it with a deep psychological subtext that is most likely completely unintentional is like saying Roger Rabbit is actually a critical commentary on the prohibition.
Of course not! "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" is a critical commentary on the General Motors streetcar conspiracy, specifically the environmental damage caused to the Los Angeles area by the loss of mass public transit.
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Big Trouble in Little China (Netflix)

WTF did I just watch?
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Moniker wrote:Big Trouble in Little China (Netflix)

WTF did I just watch?
A movie about a sidekick who thinks he's the hero.
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Mischief Maker wrote:
Moniker wrote:Big Trouble in Little China (Netflix)

WTF did I just watch?
A movie about a sidekick who thinks he's the hero.
I will say that Kurt Russell in a muscle shirt & a TEC-9 is instantly iconic... but still.. WTF?
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You saw pure awesomeness. Plain and simple.
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EmperorIng wrote:, the scientists as the good guys, Godzilla as the good guy (fucking LOL with people clapping for Godzilla in the stadium - only in America
I would have walked straight out. I can't be surrounded by that many slack jawed morons in such close proximity.
Watanabe, as much as I like him, looked befuddled the whole time.
He was completely useless. He filled the position of being Japanese and some kind of absurdly bad scientist who takes up a large bulk of slow-zoom-into-staring-face shots.
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I guess it's true what they say. No matter how good something is, there's somebody out there who will hate it.
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Lord Satori wrote:No matter how good something is
Are you talking about Godzilla? :|

Or trolling/sarcasm?

Honestly?
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Skykid wrote:
EmperorIng wrote:, the scientists as the good guys, Godzilla as the good guy (fucking LOL with people clapping for Godzilla in the stadium - only in America
I would have walked straight out. I can't be surrounded by that many slack jawed morons in such close proximity.
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Oh god, an animated Godzilla? Why God, why?
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