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Shatterhand wrote:sure mate, like I said, I was just kidding.

Goddamn, I don't think we are in such a confortable situation against oldschoolers as I first thought after seeing the final scores chart. It's going to be close.
Indeed.

You're ahead of me by four places, I'm ahead of coffeejoerx by five places, Turrican is ahead of coffeejoerx by three places, and both teams' third placers are on top of each other.

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Aww, I didn't even enter top 20. And I'm pretty sure another day would have seen me breaking a 4m barrier... that score of mine was from a run where I lost two lives in a stupid way. :?
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My 4.6M inp shows me losing lives in really stupid ways.

Lessee, I got crushed by cat paws while going for a gold bell of all things, splatted by a straight laser, killed by a 3 way while focusing on side missiles and all sorts of hilarious stuff
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Post by Edge »

lol, is someone here with l33t Excel skills? :P

I could really use a more advanced sheet. I edited the one I made during '06, but I still have to do too much manually. This is taking like forever with that many players and teams.

I have been sitting there now for 2-3 hours straight on that and I am not even close to get it finished. (maybe about 70%)

I am really sorry guys, but you have to expect the final list tomorrow. :?
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You can double click to highlight an entire word on a web page to quickly copy and paste it into a cell.
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edit -> replace can also be useful for changing commas to apostrophes in the scores and stuff
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Edge wrote:I still have to do too much manually. This is taking like forever with that many players and teams.
I think the very best would be an HTML form (in a first php page) with the following :
-game (must choose in a list). Games would need to be "enabled" during their week, "disabled" the rest of the time (csv file manual edit can do)
-player (must choose in a list)
-score (must type)
-team (choose in a list)
-comments (must type).

Form informations would be submitted to a second php page.
The scores would be stored in a table (overkill), mere text file (csv) or XML file, and a very simple parsing + some maths (in php) would be enough to generate nice lists.
Actually such a program would need 4 XML or CSV files (or tables) :
-games (read only)
-players (read only)
-teams (read only)
-scores
A third php page would be use for real-time scores display.

It's very easy to program, I really think someone fluent in php could make it in a few hours.
It would just need :
-a sort of password, either a global password (same for everyone, a "tournament password" which would be communicated to every player) or the same passwords than the board'. To prevent people from nowhere to post scores...I think a global password would be enough, after all, challengers won't post scores for their opponents, will they? :wink:
-Some regular expression usage for basic checks on the scores (--> scores must be integers/float numbers), to avoid someone funny could submit 'ICrashedYourPhpScript' as a score.
-That's all !
-I'm not a php pro but I could really help, as it is a very basic (not Basic ^^) program...
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mikwuyma wrote:If anyone using the shot type (top choice) is having trouble with the cat stampede in stage 4, a fully charged shot will kill cats behind you (and on your sides).
I never got that far, but I figured the charge shot could kill things around you. In stage 2 if you waited for those spinning popcorn enemies to start circling you before you released a full charge shot, you'd kill them all at once.
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I have some excel skills, I'd be willing to help.

But I think I could make a program where you just insert each score, and it will automatically get the 3 best players of each team, and make the math to calculate overall scores and stuff.

Of course, I would need lots of help from Edge, and it may took me a little while to do it, but I think it could be worth.

I don't know if it would be ready for Seibu Week (After all, I would prefer spend my time playing the game than programming), but I think it could be ready for the 3rd week.
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I've thought for a long time that we need a better scoreboard system. Not just for STGT, but in general. Given how many programmers post here, it seems like it should be feasible to make a plugin (or hack, or whatever) for scores (kind of like how poll threads have a built-in form for entering votes). But, not being familiar with phpBB (or PHP at all for that matter), I don't know how easy that is to do (or if Bloodflowers would want member written code on his server ;)). Compiling all this data would be really easy if it were in a relational database.

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If you already have the data in a nicely formed excel document, I'd volunteer to import it into SQL Server and give you the results. It wouldn't take much time, and once the queries are written the first time, it's basically no work at all to do it in the future.
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Anyways, when inputting scores into the excel spreadsheet, the only thing you should really be changing is the score column (and maybe the version if it's their first score). Everything else should be in place.

And just use sort to determine rankings and team scores. Sort by score column to post scores and by team column to easily figure out the top 3 (+ corresponding ranking and points, should have columns for both beforehand) per team.
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wow, I don't know what sucks more, this game or my score. Probably my score.


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2 late lol

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Shatterhand wrote:
Easier than Sonic 2 last boss :)


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Like I said i was dissapointed to die in that level, not sure what happened.

And i think the sonic 2 boss thing was a joke right? you have seen this right: http://speeddemosarchive.com/flash.pl?S ... ic2_de_043

I could beat the second boss of sonic 2 500 times in a row no problem (and probably have). Not so with level 6 twinbee, where i can be retarded/there is a slight amount of randomness introduced by ship position.

Also I must be one of the only people who didn't play with options (I used shot 1-shield), michael, and whatever the fuck the other thing is. Whenever I grabbed them they fucked me over.

I got full blue and full grey. I think me and mikwuyma had the same strategy, to only avoid greens.
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yes, it was a joke. It was the first stupidly easy final boss I could think of :)
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Shatterhand wrote:yes, it was a joke. It was the first stupidly easy final boss I could think of :)
That would be the boss of sonic 1. You'd be surprised how many people can't beat sonic 2's final boss, mostly because they don't know what to do if/when they get past metal sonic. I didn't beat him till i was at least 12 or so.
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stanski wrote:
Shatterhand wrote:yes, it was a joke. It was the first stupidly easy final boss I could think of :)
That would be the boss of sonic 1.
Or any Gradius final boss. Or Dracula in Castlevania II: Simon's Quest.
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Gradius doesn't count. I only count as a boss if he at least try to harm me in any way.
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Turrican wrote:Aww, I didn't even enter top 20. And I'm pretty sure another day would have seen me breaking a 4m barrier... that score of mine was from a run where I lost two lives in a stupid way. :?
You did very well, though. A lot better than I did. I was just happy to get that far on one credit. I finally got past Tweedledee and Tweedledum on one credit, though it was after the tournament was over and with a lower score than my highest.

I like this game quite a bit, especially after learning the stages more. I still prefer Detana and Pop 'n, though.
Shatterhand wrote:Gradius doesn't count. I only count as a boss if he at least try to harm me in any way.
This got me thinking of Detana Twinbee's final boss, which is very similar to the ones in some Gradius games. Konami sure likes putting defenseless brains in games.
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I'm going to scare you... like you've never been scared before.
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Ok, I just discovered that the first charge shot automatically scores 5 hits on bells (just the right amount to change bell to colored)

wtf why didn't anyone tell me this before? D:

I had to like, look at the tutorial to figure it out
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It's unreliable though. Depending on where with the charge shot you hit the bell, how charged the shot is, and how close to the top of the screen the bell is.

It doesn't always give 5 hits =/
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viniciusvbf wrote:viniciusvbf - Pelé Shooting Team - 1,7139,150 - Stage 4
MY AMAZING SCORE IS NOT ON THE TABLE!!! :evil:
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No, I didn't play with options either, I always used the shield, even being annoying as it makes my hitbox huge.

I have an impressive screenshot here where the bell counter had nearly only red and pink bells, with just a few yellows in the mix, right before reaching level 3 boss.
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viniciusvbf wrote:
viniciusvbf wrote:viniciusvbf - Pelé Shooting Team - 1,7139,150 - Stage 4
MY AMAZING SCORE IS NOT ON THE TABLE!!! :evil:
Your score has one too many digits in it : )
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Bullshit.

Have you seen the 17 million video floating around? He made it.




Considering his score won't be one of our top 3, can we consider it when he fixes it ?
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Shatterhand wrote:I have an impressive screenshot here where the bell counter had nearly only red and pink bells, with just a few yellows in the mix, right before reaching level 3 boss.
What kinda score are we talking here? :D
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viniciusvbf wrote:
viniciusvbf wrote:viniciusvbf - Pelé Shooting Team - 1,7139,150 - Stage 4
MY AMAZING SCORE IS NOT ON THE TABLE!!! :evil:
Yeah, man. Like...that comma is so out of place. :P
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Shatterhand wrote:I have an impressive screenshot here where the bell counter had nearly only red and pink bells, with just a few yellows in the mix, right before reaching level 3 boss.
I don't do that at all. I max out Shot and Speed with the first 8 bells, then use Option Power to generate the three Options quickly. With the next cloud, I grab a green bell (for points), and then try to get the Bazooka sidearm (easier to juggle bells with it compared to the other sidearms).

After that, it's picking up blue, grey, green and pink as appropriate before the appearance of the Michael powerup. And with Michael, every colour bell is worth 57,300 if you are at maximum power.

Stage 1, Option Power, 1.21mil. With Napalm Power I can manage a max of 1.15mil off stage1.

And it is extremely important to max out your power quickly, as you can get over 2mil from stage2 alone (I've had 1.7mil tops, ending the stage with about 2.9mil).
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Post by sikraiken »

Your play is so much cleaner than mine, haha. I'm just all over the place. Nice job.
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