Whatever happened to the Ketsui Dump?

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Re: Whatever happened to the Ketsui Dump?

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Edit:
until now hyper don't affect:
- GP meter
- Rank after hyper mode finish
can someone confirm this?
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Sorry for being retarded, but i can't seem to solve this.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2126/fuuuh.jpg
I got the PGM bios in the roms folder, and all possible Ketsui versions, yet it's still complaining.
Edit: got help, thanks!
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So, who will post the first picture of these running in a cabinet? 8)
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Jockel wrote:Sorry for being retarded, but i can't seem to solve this.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2126/fuuuh.jpg
I got the PGM bios in the roms folder, and all possible Ketsui versions, yet it's still complaining.
Put the files from the pgm bios into the ketsui rom and it works.(i`m dumb, i dont know how to start a rom with bios from the command line mame version) :?
Or grab the ui version of mame from Evrain and it should work the usual way.
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third_strike wrote:Seems hyper is affecting nothing or pcb version of DOJBL is easier: 4 hypers in stage 1 + 3 hypers in begin of stage 2 + no miss = rest of stage 2 very easy.
until now hyper don't affect:
- GP meter
- Rank
can someone confirm this?
Are you sure this is not another default PCB setting problem ? (to be sure, you have to check the settings in service mode - default key : F2. You have to hold it. Ketsui defaults are wrong - when I tried it, it was set on easy, no continues, etc.)

Btw, on last page someone asked if there was a specific place to report bugs, MAME has a dedicated website : MAMEtesters.
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emphatic wrote:So, who will post the first picture of these running in a cabinet? 8)
I could do with ease but... I have better games installed :D
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emphatic wrote:So, who will post the first picture of these running in a cabinet? 8)
I'll have to install another copy of Windows first, stupid soft15khz.
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Keade, please read my post very carefully regarding contacting mamedev about this unofficial release.

Come on IRC and give us your feedback: irc.efnet.org, #iustek

We're working on audio right now but we'll note down everything you tell us and pass it on to Haze if it's useful as well.

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Re: Whatever happened to the Ketsui Dump?

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Grabbed that version Evrain linked, but I get this when trying to launch Ketsui

What am I doing wrong?
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Hmm, maybe it's just me, but in Evrain's MAMEUI the input lag is horrendous in both DOJ and Ketsui. For the record, on PCSX2 it's what I would call "bearable". I' on WinXP, and ShmupMAME works perfectly here bringing me perfect response.
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austere wrote:We're working on audio right now
And a merry Christmas to you too! I think that the full auto on button 3 should be on by default, can't remember having to turn that on, and I've reset a PCB to default settings more times than I'd like to admit.
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Ketsui is pretty freaking useless without a C-button/rapid-fire A. How the hell am I supposed to exploit the scoring system now. Not being able to get 20 mil on 1-1 breaks my heart :(
Oh well..time to go back to the 360 port.
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emphatic wrote:
austere wrote:We're working on audio right now
And a merry Christmas to you too! I think that the full auto on button 3 should be on by default, can't remember having to turn that on, and I've reset a PCB to default settings more times than I'd like to admit.
The standard settings are not default, and resetting them to default also enables full-auto in both DOJ and Ketsui.
Ketsui is pretty freaking useless without a C-button/rapid-fire A. How the hell am I supposed to exploit the scoring system now. Not being able to get 20 mil on 1-1 breaks my heart :(
Oh well..time to go back to the 360 port.
Then why don't you turn it on?
Hmm, maybe it's just me, but in Evrain's MAMEUI the input lag is horrendous in both DOJ and Ketsui
Then don't use Evrain's MAMEUI. Use the executable austere linked.

Yeah, we need a new thread.
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Then enable it? The roms are booting up without the normal defaults. Just hold F2 and set everything up in the test menu correctly. Or just go to 'default' and select taht.


Exo wrote:Ketsui is pretty freaking useless without a C-button/rapid-fire A. How the hell am I supposed to exploit the scoring system now. Not being able to get 20 mil on 1-1 breaks my heart :(
Oh well..time to go back to the 360 port.
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zakk wrote:Then enable it? The roms are booting up without the normal defaults. Just hold F2 and set everything up in the test menu correctly. Or just go to 'default' and select taht.


Exo wrote:Ketsui is pretty freaking useless without a C-button/rapid-fire A. How the hell am I supposed to exploit the scoring system now. Not being able to get 20 mil on 1-1 breaks my heart :(
Oh well..time to go back to the 360 port.
Touché.
Is it just me or is Ketsui running a bit too fast ?
The timing for the exploit seems way different.
Well and of course the overall game seems accelerated.
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Keade wrote: Are you sure this is not another default PCB setting problem ?
I am pretty sure. The GP meter shit is very easy to see. I don't go further stage 2 I don't know nothing beyond stage 2.
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Then don't use Evrain's MAMEUI. Use the executable austere linked.
To be honest, I am not seeing any input lag, care to elaborate? All I did was update my own 0.140u2 src with Haze's patches, edit the game info for accuracy sake and compiled the standard/UI version, nothing that could call lag into question.
Will try austere's build and see if it's indeed my fault..

EDIT: double-checked and I see no input lag. Maybe something to do with this being a 32-bit build?

@hipgnosis: I didn't include the ROM, obviously :) Maybe yours is named/zipped differently?
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Okay I have the same problem as Jockel:
Jockel wrote:Sorry for being retarded, but i can't seem to solve this.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2126/fuuuh.jpg
I got the PGM bios in the roms folder, and all possible Ketsui versions, yet it's still complaining.
Edit: got help, thanks!
Anyone can help me here?
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hipgnosis wrote:Okay I have the same problem as Jockel:
Jockel wrote:Sorry for being retarded, but i can't seem to solve this.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2126/fuuuh.jpg
I got the PGM bios in the roms folder, and all possible Ketsui versions, yet it's still complaining.
Edit: got help, thanks!
Anyone can help me here?
Take the missing file from the BIOS zip and add it to the Ketsui/DOJ archive. Voilà :)
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Wait am I the only one who thinks the salvos the 1st boss in DoJ shoots are way too slow?
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Zeron wrote:Wait am I the only one who thinks the salvos the 1st boss in DoJ shoots are way too slow?
Did you check the DOJ as well as the DOJ BL as a comparison to the PS port?
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emphatic wrote:
Zeron wrote:Wait am I the only one who thinks the salvos the 1st boss in DoJ shoots are way too slow?
Did you check the DOJ as well as the DOJ BL as a comparison to the PS port?



Hmm ok its accurate I was a idiot I compared DoJ Black Label to White label it's all good I guess

Though man I did not know BL made the patterns easier.

Bah now I am completly useless il go hunt inaccuracies in white label then.
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Thanks for the feedback guys, the rank problem is confirmed (and what is causing it).

keep us updated on what seems bugged.
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this is orgasmic news indeed.
It is to us a sufficient body in which, fairies and it is packed and can group of play.
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joeboto wrote:this is orgasmic news indeed.
Indeed, My thanx go out to everyone whos involved in making this happen. You guys rock!
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Agreed on the speed for Ketsui. EVAC Industry stage feels a bit too fast, especially the backwards scrolling bit... or I'm really rusty because I got my ass handed 2 seconds in.

Now the icing on the (already mega fucking epic) cake will be Espgaluda actually working and this will be the STG month of the year.
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Observer wrote:Agreed on the speed for Ketsui. EVAC Industry stage feels a bit too fast, especially the backwards scrolling bit... or I'm really rusty because I got my ass handed 2 seconds in.

Now the icing on the (already mega fucking epic) cake will be Espgaluda actually working and this will be the STG month of the year.
Indeed. All i want is for a final build of MAME to be released that makes this games work as they should... i mean, no more back label or shit... that'd be just.... totally orgasmic!.. i cant wait for this guys to release the internal version they're working on right now... i wanna play ketsui NOW!! (i have my copy of DOJ on the PS2, so i can wait a lil bit longer for tht one!).
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Kaspal wrote:i wanna play ketsui NOW!!
Then why don't you, like everyone else is?
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Oh, someone should make a mod where the rank stays in the lowest for DOJ, at LEAST to make people feel well. :lol: Then you slam them with THE HORRIBLE TRUTH (c) and put the real rank. Enemies promptly wipe the floor with their egos.

I think I should ask this, although I bet it was already mentioned:

Nimitz, are you going to put these miracles and glory on the glorious Lagless schmukmup Mame?
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Lance Boyle wrote:
Kaspal wrote:i wanna play ketsui NOW!!
Then why don't you, like everyone else is?
Ild hazard a guess that he's like me in that I wont touch a game untill its finished and fully playable (or as close to 100% as possible), that includes demos aswell, unless Its a try before I buy. Imo playing bug ridden games spoils the experience I could be having with the final version.
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