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Steven wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 1:18 pm Has Hamster said anything about Viper Phase 1's unauthorized absence on PSN yet? I kind of want to play it and don't feel like going to Mikado because I'm lazy.
Samildanach wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 4:09 pm As BIL has mentioned earlier I believe, I found it by typing in Viper into the search engine. That is on PS4's PS Store however, maybe it isn't on PS5's at all.
Yeah, status quo remains unfortunately. They've said it'll be resolved but will take time. "Viper" on the PS4 console's store will find it, and you can then use the web store to download it to your PS5.

It's like a Raiden Fighters medalling trick. Image Image :lol:

I'm curious to see if they can fix that missing st5 BG layer, at the boss. It wouldn't surprise me if both issues are resolved in one go. TZW_Guile's commentary made this release sound particularly involved, and it's not even this year's Christmas headliner, which is another notorious STG longshot. Cotton debuted System 16B only recently, too. Seems a busy time for them.

It reminds me of TGM1, yet another former technical+legal impossibility that came out of nowhere a couple winters ago, but needed some patching up. (the Hi Score mode's starting RNG was limited to a handful of set patterns, since fixed)

On that note, I wonder if we might see Senkyu / Battle Balls out of their SPI emulation. Maybe not soon, given how Hamster seem to pace their Seibu releases, but I'd like to finally try the arcade version of that.
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Sturmvogel Prime wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:50 am Since NMK-Banpresto's Macross is this week's (and last of 2024) Arcade Archives title, I have a small question for all of you: What are your Arcade Archives predictions for 2025?

Here's my predictions for 2025

NAMCO / BANPRESTO
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  • Pac-Man Arrangement
  • Dirt Fox
  • Quester
  • Blazer
  • Final Lap*
  • Final Lap 2*
  • Final Lap 3*
  • Suzuka 8 Hours*
  • Macross II (although that's another NMK title)
  • Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon
  • Gee Bee
  • Bomb Bee
  • Steel Gunner
  • Steel Gunner 2
  • NebulasRay
  • Dirt Trax*
  • The Outfoxies
  • Mach Breakers
  • Galaga Arrangement
  • Dig Dug Arrangement
  • Galaxian 3
* = Sponsors removed
Didn't mentioned Final Lap R since that was a FIA/FOCA to Fuji TV licensed title, and it would be either Japan only or totally omitted like the infamous Marvel Land and F/A cases.
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  • Space Invaders
  • Darius Gaiden
  • Sky Destroyer
  • Space Invaders Part II
  • Night Striker
  • Operation Wolf
  • Operation Thunderbolt
  • Gridseeker: Project Storm Hammer
  • Elevator Action Returns
  • RayForce
  • Cleopatra's Fortune
Yeah, only 11 since any month could be a "Namco Month" like the 2024 "Namco Spring Festival"
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  • Devastators
  • Parodius
  • Twinbee Yahoo
  • Boot Camp
OTHERS
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  • Final Star Force (Tecmo)
  • Raiden II (Seibu Kaihatsu)
  • Dynamite Duke (Seibu Kaihatsu)
  • Raiden DX (Seibu Kaihatsu)
  • Tao Taido (Video System)
  • Shienryu (Warashi)**
  • Lethal Crash Course (Video System)
** = Rumored since Hamster's acquisition of Warashi and Shienryu's rights
Mystic Warriors and Metamorphic Force are both out so I think Violent Storm is due. Aqua Jack feels likely although I don't think it's made it onto any of those Taito collections yet. They're almost out of VS Namco games and they've slowed their Namco pace in general... they might pause altogether for a while, or do another Namco month then stop. I'm not getting my hopes up for the Arrangement games or anything with licenses. Isn't ACA2 Neo Geo with online supposed to happen summer 2025? If ACA2 re-releases will count as the game-of-the-week, I'm afraid things are about to get really boring for a while.
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Looks like Arcade Archives Macross will be Japan only, since Hamster's YouTube only has the japanese promo.
Thanks Harmony Gold. Now we can say goodbye to any chances of seeing Macross II and Macross Plus in the Arcade Archives.
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Harmony Gold are truly one of the biggest shitters of all time.
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Price shows 1500 yen on the Hamster website here, no surprises there.

I wonder if Mazinger Z was the test case for western releases. If the higher price tag resulted in low sales outside Japan, it might not worth dealing with [the company of doom] for Macross.

Or yeah, if [the company of doom] would've resulted in an even higher price tag than Mazinger Z in the west, that would also impact sales.
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Sturmvogel Prime wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:09 amNow we can say goodbye to any chances of seeing Macross II and Macross Plus in the Arcade Archives.
Why would this affect Macross 2? Lovers Again didn't even involve Studio Nue or Tatsunoko, let alone these, these... shamefur gaijin shitbirds. Image Image

Unless you mean seeing those games outside of Japan, ofc. I'm numb to it after a lifetime of unadulterated fuckery. Image
Sima Tuna wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:15 am Harmony Gold are truly one of the biggest shitters of all time.
They do seem a chronic case of wasting diarrhoea. Which incidentally I hope their top brass are stricken with on this day. Merry Christmas everyone! Image

Shame such a beloved series is so tied up in bullshit. I can't help finding the whole Robotech kitbash interesting though. Like splicing The X-Files and JAG and Leave It To Beaver to produce Japan's favourite show How I Boned Your Mother. Watch out for HIBYM 2 THE NEW GENERATION, or as it's known domestically, Renegade and Doogie Howser MD!

Then forty years on, some poor theyaboo who just wants to buy the Leave It To Beaver box set with Japanese subtitles gets cockblocked by Big Nippon Ougon no Terebi Kabushiki Kaisha. 3;
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSUIi5V32cU

One other interesting thing in Hamster's trailer is that it skips stage 1. I wonder if they're avoiding showing any character art in this trailer? Since the game start and the cutscene between stage 1 and 2 has characters from the show, but the cutscene between stage 2 and 3 only has exterior shots.
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Surprised to see it includes the International version. :o Got an optional Medal + Rank display too, nice.
Jeneki wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 1:38 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSUIi5V32cU

One other interesting thing in Hamster's trailer is that it skips stage 1. I wonder if they're avoiding showing any character art in this trailer? Since the game start and the cutscene between stage 1 and 2 has characters from the show, but the cutscene between stage 2 and 3 only has exterior shots.
Hmm, I wonder. Such a minefield, this business. :shock: Game's art seems intact, happily, there's Misa and Minmay and Claudia, Hikaru and "MACS" as the HS table calls my ol Scrambled Valkyrie bro Image

EDIT: although I've never played this game, only admired it in the background during EastEnders chip shop scheming sessions and screaming matches. :cool:
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Macros isn’t coming to the US? Crap. I was really looking forward to it.

One of these days I will need to buy a Japanese eShop card from Playasia and grab the titles that haven’t been released for the Switch in the US.
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BTW, I’ve been lurking on this thread for a few months now just soaking in knowledge and expertise. What an awesome thread! I have learned about so many new-to-me arcade classics. I also learned to appreciate games I dismissed for a long time. And, I blew through a ton of money! :D :D :D Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread. You are doing the lord’s work or something.
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Comfy thread. :mrgreen: Welcome aboard, here's to another year! Image
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In the USA, Harmony Gold still retains the rights to the Macross namesake, however, it's Big West of Japan whom has the legal right to sell Macross toys, merchandise, etc, in the USA (they still don't have a USA subsidiary distribution wherehouse built yet).

Interesting to learn that the Hamster ACA of Super Dimension Fortress Macross has the International Version (which would be listed as " Super Space Fortress Macross" from American arcade distributor Fabtek back in October of 1992). It was cool to actually be able to play "SSF Macross" at the better well-stocked American arcades in late 1992, especially if you were an anime fan during that particular point in time. It's a well-known fact that Banpresto arcade developer/publisher was a subsidiary of Bandai back in the early-to-mid 1990s era.

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I see PCEFX, so maybe HG has been falsely accused this time around? An appropriately nefarious twist for this ~EIEN NO LEGAL DRAMA~ :o

EDIT: Oho, nice! Regretfully over-refreshed, I misunderstood the Preference Option, earlier. I thought it was a 1ALL/2ALL toggle. It's actually the always-welcome Loop 2 Start. Very fond of those, ever since Slap Fight MD! Image

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Starter Rank at max (or even "Macs!"), them st1 zako comin' in HAWT Image

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Merry Christmas, everyone!

Except Harmony Gold. Fuck them.
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NightBeast wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 4:18 pm Macros isn’t coming to the US? Crap. I was really looking forward to it.

One of these days I will need to buy a Japanese eShop card from Playasia and grab the titles that haven’t been released for the Switch in the US.
When you buy cards from play-asia you're given the codes immediately. It's very easy.
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Daww! Tiny pixel theatre, recalling another recent arrival. Image NMK are always good for this. Seibu's mastery ofc needing no introduction whatsoever. VP1's last ground team has a guy who trips, too, but lacking Minmay-chan's Idol Privilege, he manfully pulls himself up and continues hauling ass with his comrades as they finally leg it. ;w;7

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Hell yeah, Macross!

Having a fine old time. Dunno if it's my imagination or the Babycham talking, but the second ship seems to have the edge in both speed and power. Flipped over to player 2 side, absolutely shredding shit up. Seems a no-brainer for bagging a brisk 1-ALL.
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BEAMLORD wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 10:35 pmDunno if it's my imagination or the Babycham talking, but the second ship seems to have the edge in both speed and power. Flipped over to player 2 side, absolutely shredding shit up. Seems a no-brainer for bagging a brisk 1-ALL.
I do hazily recall the manual saying Max is quicker! Makes sense. Tensai Piloto. :cool:

Now I think about it, maybe "Macks" was the intended spelling all along. NMK some smart dudes. :o
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I don't have any time to practice this week, but SDF Macross is nice and comfy to play for score. Look for the hidden medals and other items, get powered up quickly for loads of 5k bonuses from the weapon icons, and don't die.

I love the muted gunmetal palette, the skilled but grimy-looking sprite work and the nastiness of the feedback (not just in the explosions but the way everything visibly splits and collapses). NMK were punk as fuck.
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PC Engine Fan X! wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 5:36 pm In the USA, Harmony Gold still retains the rights to the Macross namesake, however, it's Big West of Japan whom has the legal right to sell Macross toys, merchandise, etc, in the USA (they still don't have a USA subsidiary distribution wherehouse built yet).
One other interesting thought here: If we look at the Macross Shooting Insight western release, it's absent of any Harmony Gold logos in the western trailers or the official website for the western version. However, it's missing content from SDF Macross and Do You Remember Love. This Hamster release falls under SDF Macross content, and is also missing in the west. It seems like that particular version of Macross is more doomed than the rest.
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Pleasantly surprised to find this is Thunder Dragon One Point Five. Got the intense pace, cathartic destruction, and calculatedly generous bombs, on a much cleaner screen. I like TD1, but its player and enemies are kinda oversized, with the aggressive bullet wobble furthering a cluttered effect. Much comfier game, here.

Stage design feels decidedly by the same people, with several familiar wave types. I particularly love the fourth stage's walker army. Just like TD1's, nothing fancy; a wall of heavy metal marching downscreen with guns blazing, the player slicing and sledgehammering through.

I will say that if you find TD1's trap waves obnoxious, SDF may prove similar. But it's significantly restrained; where TD1 gets bomb-defusal tight early in Loop 1, SDF doesn't become truly ruthless until the second and final loop's latter half. I've put barely any time on it, so way too early to say, but I could see this maturing into a nice 2ALL; compact and tough. Hugely appreciative of the set two loops; TD1 is endless after the second, never my thing.

I was going "You rude fucker!" at a couple bosses' unceremonious ramming attacks, until I remembered that ala TD1, that's what the bomb is for. :cool: Happy to see lasers are pretty well-telegraphed by warning warmups. In front of a battleship? Get off the blue line pronto! I'd heard talk over the years of this being over-reliant on them, conjuring memories of Dragon Blaze's nightmarish late-game zaps. But it's nowhere even remotely as brutal.
Klatrymadon wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:15 amI love the muted gunmetal palette, the skilled but grimy-looking sprite work and the nastiness of the feedback (not just in the explosions but the way everything visibly splits and collapses). NMK were punk as fuck.
Feedback's definitely the word! They really captured DYRL's punishing battle aesthetic. Image Tearing apart large enemies before their bristling armaments can cause trouble is ruinously satisfying, and even the tiniest zako go out with plaintive vengeance.

I like how the manual shouts out the one wingman dude whose name I can never recall, with a note that "Yeah, just like in the film, he's gonna eat a fuckin rocket to the face immediately so make sure to grab his Armor drop." Image Poor prick's got a shout in the default HS table too. :lol:
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PC Engine Fan X! wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 5:36 pm In the USA, Harmony Gold still retains the rights to the Macross namesake, however, it's Big West of Japan whom has the legal right to sell Macross toys, merchandise, etc, in the USA (they still don't have a USA subsidiary distribution wherehouse built yet).
One other interesting thought here: If we look at the Macross Shooting Insight western release, it's absent of any Harmony Gold logos in the western trailers or the official website for the western version. However, it's missing content from SDF Macross and Do You Remember Love. This Hamster release falls under SDF Macross content, and is also missing in the west. It seems like that particular version of Macross is more doomed than the rest.
It's all so awful. 3; All this trouble caused by an early 80s kitbash. I could afford them some charity if they'd actually localised Macross BITD, instead of mashing it with two unrelated works. As-is, it's borderline Ken Penders suing Archie vibes.

I mean Robotech could be super rad for all I know. Collage and pastiche are legitimate artforms after all. I like the brass neck tbh. Moreso than all the tedious obstinance since, certainly.

EDIT: Did anyone else watch Macron One back in the day? That one's at least a couple different series, too. GoShogun and some other thing. Even as a kid, I remember when they'd switch to The B Team, like "By the way kids, here's what B Team is doing elsewhere! Wow look, they're taking off to fight Other Big Bad!" Never came up besides that IIRC. Hilarious!

GoShogun's concluding OVA "The Time Etranger" (1985) is pretty unique. Worth a watch even if you don't care about the series. Downbeat elegy about what happens when the Super Robot Pilots - or anyone, really - get old and retire. It's good I swear! Image EDIT2: Not to be confused with Toki no Tabito (1986), which I see actually came out a year later.
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BIL wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 7:19 pm
Steven wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 1:18 pm Has Hamster said anything about Viper Phase 1's unauthorized absence on PSN yet? I kind of want to play it and don't feel like going to Mikado because I'm lazy.
Samildanach wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 4:09 pm As BIL has mentioned earlier I believe, I found it by typing in Viper into the search engine. That is on PS4's PS Store however, maybe it isn't on PS5's at all.
Yeah, status quo remains unfortunately. They've said it'll be resolved but will take time. "Viper" on the PS4 console's store will find it, and you can then use the web store to download it to your PS5.

It's like a Raiden Fighters medalling trick. Image Image :lol:
Damn, that's disappointing. I guess I'm glad that I still have a functional PS4. It's the red MGS V one with the spelling mistake on it, so there is no way I'd get rid of it, but I might have to use it to get the game in that case.
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So from BIL's screenshot - it's Japan only, but they've localized all the menus like normal? That's nice. Definitely import-friendly then.
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I breezed through the first five stages of Macross and almost made a post about how remarkably easy the game seemed to be. (Crazy that these were the same guys who made TD2 soon after, right?!)

Then I played 6, and, okay, here’s the challenge - and then 7, and what the holy fuck is going on with the stage design. Hope you all enjoy getting railed in the ass by wave after wave of hard mecha steel.

A reasonable clear overall, I gather, but what the fuck were they thinking with 7..? Whole stage seems designed to shake you down for all your bombs and extends.

You get a clean 5 lives, all considered, but recoveries aren’t good in later stages. Chain deaths encouraged to get enough powerups to proceed like in Aces.

I’m going back to Viper, which is the harder game, but one that seems to have been built with a more sound design philosophy. As someone said, though, there’s something extremely charming about the messy punk NMK vibe. Peak developer.
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Ms. Tea wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2024 7:44 am So from BIL's screenshot - it's Japan only, but they've localized all the menus like normal? That's nice. Definitely import-friendly then.
Yep! Same with F/A earlier this year. At some point circa 2019, they started including English (and IIRC other Western language) menus with all releases, determined by your system language. At least on PS4, but I imagine Switch is similar.
jehu wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2024 8:10 am I breezed through the first five stages of Macross and almost made a post about how remarkably easy the game seemed to be. (Crazy that these were the same guys who made TD2 soon after, right?!)

Then I played 6, and, okay, here’s the challenge - and then 7, and what the holy fuck is going on with the stage design. Hope you all enjoy getting railed in the ass by wave after wave of hard mecha steel.
Indeed, that's the TD1 curve or rather sheer cliff face alright. :lol: Arrives a little later but it's there. Between the trap waves, big hitbox, and brutal powerdown, trainwrecks are certain at first.

I think Stage 6 is just right. It's vicious but never cynical, and lets you unleash venomous destruction in the bargain. Stage 7 is the bomb squad final exam. Thunder Dragon 2 was where they demonstrated fist-tight gauntlets without resorting to outright boobytraps, all in a single loop too. As with so many early 90s highlights, the smaller hitbox was pivotal there. Not to downplay TD2, it's hard as a goddamn boner, just significantly more flexible.

Speaking of which, HIKARU-KUN WTF R U DOIN :shock:
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If everyone at Harmony Gold died of monkeypox tomorrow, I don't think many people would mind.

Also, ACA just announced Macross II.
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EmperorIng wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2024 3:25 pm Also, ACA just announced Macross II.
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Question 1:
So, which 2024 Arcade Archives games stand above the rest for you? I suspect these based on reactions here:

CRIME CITY
FANTASTIC NIGHT DREAMS COTTON
Macross
METAMORPHIC FORCE
MIGHTY GUY
NINJA EMAKI
NINJA KIDS
Rainbow Islands
RASTAN SAGA
RIOT
SILK WORM
SURPRISE ATTACK
TINKLE PIT
Tutankham
Viper Phase 1
VOLFIED
WARRIOR BLADE

I personally can vouch for:

Rainbow Islands
Tinkle Pit
Viper Phase 1

Question 2: Is there a list of games only released in certain regions?
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EmperorIng wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2024 3:25 pmAlso, ACA just announced Macross II.
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So for games not available on Switch in the US, we have Macross, F/A, Jail Break, and….one more? I can’t recall. I will need to get of my lazy ass and create a Japanese Nintendo account.
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