XRGB-mini Framemeister

[Midnight Milkshake]

Thought that it was the bug that you mention in your site, sorry; so I can't set the sync level if I'm using the component connection?

[Konsolkongen]

So what could be causing it? I never had any component problems with any source, and with any processor or TV I tried

[Fudoh]

I do ? What did I write ?

[Konsolkongen]

I'm not sure what you mean. I'm confused now. You said that the sync levels on component sources were all standard, so if one work they should all work, right? Ergo the sync shouldn't be the problem on Midnight Milkshake's setup, which leads me to wonder what else it could be

[Fudoh]

@Konsolkongen: I agree. My question (I do?...) was meant in response to MM's "..but that you mention on your site". I assume he meant my page.

[jamisonia]

Just upgraded to 1.10. I know not many of you use HDMI pass through but it's not working right. It passes video through just fine but audio keeps cutting out. I've sent 5.1 PCM and DD through it and both would randomly cut out. also I noticed the power button on the remote doesn't respond well when trying to turn the system off. Works fine to turn it on though and other buttons respond just fine.

[marqs]

Just upgraded to 1.10. I know not many of you use HDMI pass through but it's not working right. It passes video through just fine but audio keeps cutting out. I've sent 5.1 PCM and DD through it and both would randomly cut out. also I noticed the power button on the remote doesn't respond well when trying to turn the system off. Works fine to turn it on though and other buttons respond just fine.

Yeah, I've had similar responsiveness issues with passthru. I also noticed that infoframe data is not passed thru and video format can go through some conversions, e.g. 8bit -> 12bit (though that's a trivial bitshift). Latency is hopefully less with this 'passthru' feature.

[Konsolkongen]

@Konsolkongen: I agree. My question (I do?...) was meant in response to MM's "..but that you mention on your site". I assume he meant my page.

I should have noticed that you posted just after me. Classic mistake

[CkRtech]

Do any of you guys use a 8 pin mini din (male to male) cable to connect one of your devices to the framemeister? I have seen a few here and there on Amazon.com. I need one, and I wouldn't mind a recommendation for quality purposes.

[Midnight Milkshake]

Sorry Fudoh, just re-read the review, and saw that you talked about the v-sync switch . So right now, I don't know how to solve the sync problem, because don't know the cause of it

Edit: Think I've solved it. Seems that it's something related to the power brick, changed the second party one that I have for the official one that I've borrowed from a friend, and looks like that the sync issues are gone

[GohanX]

Do any of you guys use a 8 pin mini din (male to male) cable to connect one of your devices to the framemeister? I have seen a few here and there on Amazon.com. I need one, and I wouldn't mind a recommendation for quality purposes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231130093274?ss ... 1439.l2649

I got one of those to use with my consolized atomiswave, it works great. I've used the Mac Serial cable from Monoprice as well, it worked great I just didn't like the gray color. I was actually kind of surprised, as neither are really designed to be video cables and are pretty cheap. The same ebay seller also has black M/F cables that work great as PC Engine controller extensions

[CkRtech]

I was actually kind of surprised, as neither are really designed to be video cables and are pretty cheap.

Yep. Those would definitely two flags for me, too. Thanks for sharing that they do, in fact, work in a "real world" scenario, GohanX!

[jujukun]

@kerframil: thanks for the suggestion. i'm going to check this, when the TV will be available

@fudoh: below the specs of my SFC after opening my SFC. I'm afraid that I own a crappy version of the SFC...

Serial number: S21438881
CPU version ((c) 1993 Nintendo): SNS-CPU-GPM-02
PPU1 version: 5C77-01 3JF 9H
PPU2 version: 5C78-03 3KA 7N
Encoder version (?): S-ENC A

Crappy, isn't it?

Well, I just received my new SFC with serial number: S25215726 aaaaand... it's a 1CHIP-02.
Picture through RGB > XRGB Mini is amazing. This is absolutely amazing. There is no vertical thick bar. I'm so happy with my new acquisition. Thank you very much for your help!!

Now, I am wondering how can the 1CHIP-03 can be better than -02 revision: picture being really really good with the -02.

[Fudoh]

I am wondering how can the 1CHIP-03 can be better than -02 revision

it's not better. I never had a 1CHIP-02 SFC, just a 01 and a 03 and the 01 had the visible vertical banding. If yours does not show banding, you should be absolutely fine.

[narcispy]

Anyone know any US sellers that sell the mini?

[bigben85]

Question on Fudoh's following connection method, the RGB going to Sync Strike, is that RGB component cable or RGB Scart cable?
If it is component, I already have a PS2 component cable, is that RGB component (seems all component cables are RGB, correct?) ?
the VGA to Mini Din cable, I can only find VGA to 6 pin Mini Din...I think I need a VGA to 8 pin for the Framemeister, right? Anyone know where I can get it? would this one work? http://www.marttree.com/mini-din-8-pin- ... cable.html


Quote:
Here's how to get the best PS2 image quality without losing any compatibility and make it all hassle free

here you go:

Quote:

Step 1 - Buy this

PS1/2/3 RGB cable - good brand besides the original is Snakebyte
Arcadeforge Sync Strike - to get clean sync when using a 15khz signal.
Extron RGB Interface to convert RGsB in 31khz mode to RGBs for the Mini, e.g. a 190 xi.

Quote:
Step 2 - Connect it here

PS2 > (RGB) > Sync Strike > (VGA cable) > Extron interface > (VGA to MiniDin cable) > XRGB Mini

Quote:
Step 4 - Set your PS2 to this mode

set the PS2 to RGB. This will output RGBs in 15khz mode and RGsB (Sync on Green) in 31khz modes.

[Overkill]

Where can i buy "that VGA to MiniDin cable"? On Ebay there is nothing.

[BuckoA51]

Here's how to get the best PS2 image quality without losing any compatibility and make it all hassle free

If you want the most hassle-free way to get the best image from the PS2, forget all that gubbins and just buy this along with a good quality PS RGB cable:-

http://www.keene.co.uk/electronic/keene ... sbbox.html

Then just connect it with a standard RGB SCART to mini-din.

FAR less hassle than Extron Interfaces etc.

[bigben85]

It doesn't bother me with using sync strike, etc. In fact it is probably to my benefit to own one. I pretty much got all the parts figured out that Fudoh listed. Still not sure what a PS2 Rgb cable is though.

[BuckoA51]

A PS2 RGB cable is a cable you attach to the PS2 that carries RGB video

Try a Google search for PS2 SCART cable.

It doesn't bother me with using sync strike, etc. In fact it is probably to my benefit to own one.

The Sync Strike is useful, but the Keene device basically does everything the Sync Strike and Extron do together but all in one device, so it's ideal for this application.

[Konsolkongen]

Question on Fudoh's following connection method, the RGB going to Sync Strike, is that RGB component cable or RGB Scart cable?
If it is component, I already have a PS2 component cable, is that RGB component (seems all component cables are RGB, correct?) ?

No, component is not the same as RGB. Some 'tards on ebay have started calling component for RGB, probably because of the red, green and blue colored leads on the cable. This just makes it a lot more confusing for customers who doesn't know the difference.

[bigben85]

Help. Confused with using U. S Saturn with Framemeister.
U. S Saturn
Europe SCART
Europe scart adapter

However I read that the U. S Saturn's power on the scart is one a different pin than Europe SCART's pin 8.

Anyone who's done this connection with U. S Saturn to the Meister?

I know of there is a mod involving soldering Saturn's board with a power line but I don't want to go that route since I already ordered my cables...

[bigben85]

I am guessing the RGB cable is referring to RGB SCART then

Question on Fudoh's following connection method, the RGB going to Sync Strike, is that RGB component cable or RGB Scart cable?
If it is component, I already have a PS2 component cable, is that RGB component (seems all component cables are RGB, correct?) ?

No, component is not the same as RGB. Some 'tards on ebay have started calling component for RGB, probably because of the red, green and blue colored leads on the cable. This just makes it a lot more confusing for customers who doesn't know the difference.

[BuckoA51]

However I read that the U. S Saturn's power on the scart is one a different pin than Europe SCART's pin 8.

Doesn't matter unless you are using the euro SCART to Framemeister adaptor with the sync splitter built in. The RGB up and aspect ratio select pins aren't used by the Framemeister.

[bigben85]

This is the euro scart adapter for the Meister... I just realize I ordered the one that has sync stripper (is this this sync splitter) oh crap... Is this going to work on my Meister (with newest frimware)???

http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/mico ... ipper.html

Crap.. Now I don't even know if I ordered the one with stripper or no stripper (been 20+ days waiting) ... Seems to be without stripper based on the price I paid.

[mickcris]

This is the euro scart adapter for the Meister... I just realize I ordered the one that has sync stripper (is this this sync splitter) oh crap... Is this going to work on my Meister (with newest frimware)???

http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/mico ... ipper.html

If your consoles are not outputting voltage on pin 8, it is not going to work. You will either have to order one without it, or remove it.

[BuckoA51]

It is far more reliable to use the sync stripper cable that piggy-backs power from the DC in. I guess it must be harder to make that since everyone keeps selling these unreliable sync stripper cables.. then we get loads of people on here asking why they can only get a blue screen with certain consoles

I don't even know if sync stripping is needed any more on the latest firmware.

[franjipane]

Is there a particular version of the Saturn (Japanese) that I should shop for to go with a xrgb mini? My SFC and Megadrive work great, I'd like to add a Saturn as I have few games for it.

[Fudoh]

No, they all perform very nice with the Mini.

[Konsolkongen]

They all work. The first models (the one with oval buttons) tend to have slightly a slightly sharper image. But it's really not that big of a difference.