DoDonPachi Saidaioujou coming to Xbox 360 (REGION-FREE!)

[Sik-07]

They should get rid of those crappy spaceships already, a few cute characters is nice but 3 seconds during ship selection isn't enough, they could have at least given us loli bosses or bishies, very disappointing.

[Hagane]

they could have at least given us loli bosses

Hibachi is now a loli, so they delivered!

[Jeneki]

Loli bosses won't help when I'm trying to concentrate on dodging. What we need is loli bullets.

[Giest118]

I think the sensory artistry is especially important in Cave games, actually. Other genres typically have a lot more elements to them, and so each element can be a point towards the game's appeal. Shooters are mostly very simple and direct, and so they have to leverage all their strengths as much as they can. One of the best things about Cave games, imo, is the importance they place on visual scoring systems. I've seen people talking about it on these forums too: how much they love the direct interaction between their scoring and the visual rewards. I love the gems in Futari, the evolving ingots in Espgaluda II, the swirling gold in Akai Katana. It's purely visual trickery, and yet it adds so much to the heart and soul of Cave games.

I do think you're right, but what you're describing here isn't actually artistry. In software interface design, there's a design principle called "feedback." It's not limited to video games, but what it essentially means is how well the interface lets a user know the following: whether the user did something, and whether what they did was correct. The reason those huge numbers flooding the screen or the big gems feel good to trigger is that it lets you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you've done something right.

So basically, my really nitpicky point here is that you're describing visual design that is created purely in service of the mechanics. These are things that would be worth getting worked up over if they were screwed up. However, my point from the start was that the moe character designs aren't in service of any mechanics, and are there purely as flavor. In these games, where the story and characters really aren't important, I don't believe that flavor is worth getting worked up over as a major flaw with the game.

As for the rest of your post... I don't really take issue with it. :V

Loli bosses won't help when I'm trying to concentrate on dodging. What we need is loli bullets.

Best idea.

[n0rtygames]

And 99% unwatchable garbage to boot.

Nonsense. Gimme a fucked up Takeshi Miike film any day of the week. They're genuinely thought provoking

[n0rtygames]

I don't believe that flavor is worth getting worked up over

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO26h9etTbw

[TrevHead (TVR)]

Anyway... it could have been worst, just imagine how would be SDOJ characters if this guy would have done then. JUST IMAGINE THE AMOUNT OF DRAMA AND BITCHING WE WOULD BE HAVING NOW... it makes me shiver.


My 2 cents would have been on Satoko Kiyuduki. If she uses the same style she delivered in Gungnir, maybe a little more mature it would be perfect. Her characters allways have a lot of personality. Also, it would have been interesting seeing her characters in futuristic outfits instead of her ussual super baroque medieval robes

I actually like most of the character art from Desgaea when they aren't been overly perverse as they are colourful and imaginative, the 2nd artist you linked not so much judjing from the artwork on that page you linked.

As for if they could fit in with CAVE I'm unsure as they seem to go for taller less chibi (have I got the term right?) characters. That said they certainly pulled it off with with Deadsmiles so I guess if they built a new shmup with that character art in mind rather than shoehorn them into an existing IP they could pull it off.

My 2c for character artists I'd like CAVE to work with is Satoshi Urushihara the guy behind Langrisser & Growlancer, get Noriyuki Iwadare to contribute for the music like he did with DS2X and they would form a hell of a tag team.

Or whoever was behind Code of Princess. I'm totally aware of the fact I don't like pervy loli that Urushihara and Code of Princess is as pervy as they come

EDIT Or the Skullgirls artist with 2D bouncing tits to great effect.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

double post

[KAI]

Or whoever was behind Code of Princess

Kinu Nishimura.

Urushicave? Thanks, but not thanks.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

Urushicave? Thanks, but not thanks.

Yeah I don't think Urushihara would fit with a Donpachi, I'm thinking more medieval / Gunbird / Dimahoo eske.

[Skykid]

They're genuinely thought provoking

Mmm.

Urushicave? Thanks, but not thanks.

This guy isn't bad (unknown Artist)



Or Hiroaki Samura

[Hagane]

This guy isn't bad (unknown Artist)

That's Akira Yasuda (Akiman).

[Skykid]

This guy isn't bad (unknown Artist)

That's Akira Yasuda (Akiman).

Really? Of Street Fighter/Capcom fame?

[Hagane]

Yes, same person.

[n0rtygames]

Love that art style. I'd really like to see a shmup with a nice hand drawn sketch style throughout the whole game. Perhaps even something like Okami too. Really been thinking of making one actually :0)

[Skykid]

Yes, same person.

Man, I've lost track of how many times that guy's changed art styles. Good to see him still active outside of Capcom, I really like this piece.

[Strider77]

Wow... this game has really decent tunes in it. Just listened to it now. Right now actually.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

Wow... this game has really decent tunes in it. Just listened to it now. Right now actually.

Yeah they are quite good tunes, which makes me hope I can turn down the voice acting.



CAVE wanna give Rovio a ring and make an Angrybirds shmup on iphone

[Softdrink 117]

What we need is loli bullets.

...

I was really bored.

[Skykid]

Love that art style. I'd really like to see a shmup with a nice hand drawn sketch style throughout the whole game.

That would be pure sex. I'm thinking a Hori in a feudal Japanese setting with slightly sketchy affects and backgrounds by Vanillaware, complete with changing weather and rolling landscapes. A different team could handle the sprites (since VW's 'Flash' look wouldn't look so neat in a shmup.)

When I think about the possibilities available to a Japanese dev with Sine Mora's budget... Pipedreams, ahh.

[O. Van Bruce]

As for if they could fit in with CAVE I'm unsure as they seem to go for taller less chibi (have I got the term right?) characters. That said they certainly pulled it off with with Deadsmiles so I guess if they built a new shmup with that character art in mind rather than shoehorn them into an existing IP they could pull it off.

Just look for the art style in Gungnir, that PSP SRPG. I did mention that it would need a more mature look but I'm sure she could make it.

My 2c for character artists I'd like CAVE to work with is Satoshi Urushihara the guy behind Langrisser & Growlancer, get Noriyuki Iwadare to contribute for the music like he did with DS2X and they would form a hell of a tag team.

Ugh, that guy has the worst same face syndrome I've seem ever...

This guy isn't bad (unknown Artist)

This is actually quite cool.

[Jeneki]

*loli bullets*

Day 1 buy.

[trap15]

*loli bullets*

Day 1 buy.

Fuck day 1, I'm buying that shit before it comes out. Day 0, baby.

[-S.L-]

What we need is loli bullets.

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I was really bored.

LOL !

genius

[ciox]

Dat graze mechanic.

[Udderdude]

Shut up and take my money.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

It's sill missing something... let me think... aha a filter!

[n0rtygames]

Back to SDOJ for a second (not that loli bullets are a huge way off, let's be real)

After watching a few more videos -- Am I right to believe that SDOJ subscribes to a more Daifukkatsu like powerup system where you basically start at full power for your chosen ship and that you don't increase your Gun/Laser level or lose them on death like DDP/DOJ?

[drunkninja24]

Back to SDOJ for a second (not that loli bullets are a huge way off, let's be real)

After watching a few more videos -- Am I right to believe that SDOJ subscribes to a more Daifukkatsu like powerup system where you basically start at full power for your chosen ship and that you don't increase your Gun/Laser level or lose them on death like DDP/DOJ?

Yeah, there's no power up system in this, same as DFK.

[KAI]

Power Ups are so 90's.