Battle Garegga (ARC/SAT/PS4/XBONE)

[Eaglet]

I think with Gain in particular, it's almost always a better idea to skip the stage 7 shrapnel and instead save that bomb for BH2. At least, I've never really been able to consistently get over 150k there

You must be placing it wrong then. You should get at least 300k. Try to keep it as centered as possible.
Depends on rank too of course, but unless you've pushed it up before BH2 bombing the shrapnel shouldn't be any trouble.

[CloudyMusic]

That's what I thought (and previously I had always tried to bomb it), but I tried a few dozen attempts in different timings and placements with a savestate and couldn't find any way to get that sort of score with him. Rank could have been too high for it, certainly.

[Icarus]

Never, EVER bomb the shrapnel in stage 7 with Gain. EVER.
It's not worth the risk of 300k-if-you're-lucky when you can get 350k+ each and every time you use a full bomb on BH2, and is considerably easier to do. That, and you can multi-bomb the screen slide if you have a lot of bombs in stock, which is something none of the other ships (save perhaps Chitta) can do.
Really, if you're a Gain player, you shouldn't even be wasting your bombs at any point between the start of stage 7 and BH2.

[Eaglet]

Never, EVER bomb the shrapnel in stage 7 with Gain. EVER.
It's not worth the risk of 300k-if-you're-lucky when you can get 350k+ each and every time you use a full bomb on BH2,

Not true if you're playing low rank. Bombing the shrapnel gives more than a grenade bomb. If you're worried about survival (low on lives etc.) you should save the bomb for BH2 though.

[Icarus]

Even at low rank I wouldn't waste a bomb on the shrapnel as Gain - the difference in point gain between the shrapnel and the grenades is small, and you have a better chance of killing BH2 if you have more bombs available.

[Eaglet]

Even at low rank I wouldn't waste a bomb on the shrapnel as Gain - the difference in point gain between the shrapnel and the grenades is small, and you have a better chance of killing BH2 if you have more bombs available.

It's about a 100k so it might factor in if you're really going for a high score. I agree with you though. Especially if you have less than two lives in stock and less than full bomb stock.

[Icarus]

Indeed, but going the distance can pay more than a quick ~100k on some shrap.
Getting to and killing GS's first form can be potentially worth more in the long run. And there's always a chance to clear.
Even if you're maxing potential, the 100k+ on shrapnel is negligible.

[Eaglet]

All true. This should only be done if you're extremely confident in your ability to clear.

[Eaglet]

E,433,600 - ERM - ALL - Bornnam (ABC) [PCB]

Icarus, Plasmo, I'm coming for you.
Uploading the picture tomorrow.

[Eaglet]

E,605,750 - ERM - ALL - Bornnam (ABC) [PCB]

Plasmo, I'm coming for you.

LOL, one more medal would've gotten me the top score.

[Eaglet]

Oh yeah, would've been an F if i didn't lose the medals at the end of stage 6 on buggery.

[CloudyMusic]

You aren't going to rest until you have #1 on every board, are you?

[Eaglet]

Something like that.
It honestly hasn't been a purpose but since I'm so close to all of them (except Gain, saving him for last) I might as well go at it.
I'm sure the rest of the players would be happy having higher scores to aim for.

[ProjectAKo]

You should not play grasshopper though. I don't wanna have to work too hard to get the #1 spot . Getting a C is already gonna be a lot of work



Now, I really have to learn all those tricks I've been skipping.

Better mad ball
Get tick milking Earth Crisis down perfect
Doing fine in stage 4... except those damn medal rails
Stage 5 need to learn full milking for nose, mad ball, and tick milking BH
Stage 6 only have a survival route, need to figure out a whole medal grabbing route
Stage 7, basically I skip most of the score in this stage right now...

By the way, I think I've got a really good way of doing the stage 2 birds with grasshopper I haven't seen anyone doing...

[Plasmo]

That's an enormous score! Congrats for learning the game so quickly!

What's that bird strat you're talking about? Please share!

Oh and please use the proper format if you wish to submit this very score so I can add it to the opening post. Thank you!

[Eaglet]

Well done! Looks like you really know how to practice.
I will continue to push up Grasshopper, so you'll just have to put forth some extra motivation if you want to be no. 1.
Icarus had an old C,XXX score with Grasshopper, so my current isn't the highest anyways.

Make sure to catch the stream! I'm sure that the time needed for you to score high enough for a top spot will be drastically shortened by it.

[ProjectAKo]

Ah, don't worry about putting that score up, I plan to get higher ones soon, I just wanted to clear the game once before practicing all the really tough tricks. Actually I got so bored trying to clear, I already started learning a bunch of stuff, which probably helped give me an extra extend to clear.
8,787,370 - Project AKo - ALL - Grasshopper (ABC)

My grasshopper bird strat sometimes works really well for me, but im still not sure if it's the way to go. For grasshopper, I like to be near the top of the screen, just below a big clump, while also letting the backside of the bomb hit all the birds behind you. http://www.twitch.tv/project_ako/v/22369075

Bomb 1 - First bomb, I try to quickly hit the castle midscreen and the move all the way back. It's hard to get a good result from the first bomb.
Bomb 2 - Now I usually wait a moment looking for a really big clump that will reach the top. I try to get right up to it at the top of the screen. But sometimes waiting will just mess up your third and fourth bomb.
Bomb 3 - Same, get up top and pointblank the highest clump.
Bomb 4 - Birds are probably almost cut off soon, so just get right on top of the biggest clump I can see to finish out the bombs.

This also fails sometimes. I'm still experimenting with it. You can also stay almost at the very top of the screen and get a decent score, but its possible for random stuff to kill you there, and also your forward shots are being wasted.

I also started to reverse engineer the birds. But it got pretty complicated. There's a whole subsystem of spawning enemies in the game I didn't figure out at all. All I managed to definitely find is that each bird gives 500 points per bomb damage tick, and they can get hit many times per frame.

I'm surprised to hear icarus got a C with grasshopper, maybe I'll have to find that post. I guess I'll have to get a D

[ProjectAKo]

Never had this much with grasshopper... but I cant get it to happen anymore. Very random.

[Eaglet]

This one's for you, AKo.




C,697,070 - ERM - Stage 7 (Glow Squid) - Grasshopper ABC
Frustrating being so close to the D...

[ProjectAKo]

I say you should still make videos. Right now I refer to two reinforcer videos on youtube, and also kamui's Special Demonstration with wild snail has some good info for garegga ships.

[Eaglet]

I say you should still make videos. Right now I refer to two reinforcer videos on youtube, and also kamui's Special Demonstration with wild snail has some good info for garegga ships.

I'll try to get to it when i have the time and money. This is my first free day from any sort of work in 3 weeks.
SDD-Kaedes is the best that i've found on YT.
Just for reference; i had about 8,75 going into stage 6 this run. No medal drops whatsoever. Killed BH2 after only one grenade drop on the last form to save lives, but messed up badly on glow squid.

Also, Plasmo, update overall top 10.

[ProjectAKo]

Ah yes, since you need hardware I guess nevermind, totally understandable. I'm surprised to hear there's input delay even on PCB though. The input delay feels kind of killer to me on MAME.

[Eaglet]

Managed to raise Golden Bat a bit.



E,538,400 - ERM - ALL - Golden Bat (ABC) [PCB]

Need better birds for an F with my current strats. Lost out on some medals on the stage 4 rails to keep the medals.
First form of BH2 kept shooting drones and needle shots so worthless scoring there.

Only had 9,98 mil going into stage 6.

[Eaglet]

E,829,940 - ERM - ALL - Bornnam (ABC) [PCB]

Sorry, Plasmo.
Closer to the F.

[DMC]

Destroying Garegga boards since 2011.
Keep it up, Eaglet!
Please let me know if you ever pass Lund and have some time to show some Garegga skills live.

[emphatic]

Eaglet, you motherfucker! Nicely done.

[Eaglet]

Haha, thanks guys!

DMC; Likewise, let me know if you're passing by Estocolmo.

[ProjectAKo]

Very nice, you should play Gain soon. As for me, I'm finally getting over 7 million on stage 5, now to actually learn how to medal stage 6...

[Eaglet]

C,122,020 - ERM - Stage 7 - Shatter Star



Well, at least i got a C. Rank was whack so died on BH2. Would have been a D with a clear.

[Eaglet]

Finally got the time to play some more.


C,907,260 - ERM - ALL - Shatter Star


Mediocre run all in all. Kept medals until Glow Squids last form. Wonderful BH2 with lots of grenade spew.
Getting a D should be pretty easy but I don't really feel like playing more Shatter Star now.
Might get started with Gain...