Star Wars Episode VII: Cast Unveiled...slated for 12/18/2015

[Phellan Wolf]

Somehow through all the space wars no one ages

They looked pretty aged to me.

Someone said Grandma Leia???
Oh man, even with all the make ups she has in the film (even digitally) time hasn't been so friendly with Carrie Fisher

[undamned]

Just got back from seeing it. It's a legit sequel. Didn't melt my face off, but it seems like a very solid start for the new trilogy.
-ud

[lilmanjs]

Han Solo showed up and people clapped. C3PO showed up and people clapped. What the hell for I will never undedstand. You knew they are in it. That was like 5 lines of dialog I missed. Good movie. Nice start for a trilogy.

[evil_ash_xero]

Is this actually as good, as the reviews make it out to be?

I mean, I freaking hated JJ's Star Trek, and it was praised to high heaven. This one has a better script writer on it, so I have a bit of hope.

I know it has to be better, than the last 3. But is it anywhere as good as the first? I find that hard to believe, personally.

[dan76]

I think what the reviews are responding to is the energy of the film. It's light, and the fact that it doesn't make too much sense doesn't matter because it's fun. It wants to be an enjoyable film more than anything, which is in the same spirit of the originals. The way is is told is great, but what's it is telling might be due some criticism.

It's the exact opposite of the prequels in that sense. It like medicine for the prequels, and as far as I remember there is no mention of anything related to them. So for people who care it's a big sigh of relief.

That said, capturing the interplay between likeable characters is one thing

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but basically remaking the first two films is another. That's the disappointment for me. It's great to have "stuff" look and feel like Star Wars again - that's what the prequels lacked - but to lift almost every plot point from the OT is weak script writing. It's a shame because the film is good enough to tread it's own path, and it does a bit, but not nearly enough.

Still, it's very good!

[Strikers1945guy]

Is this actually as good, as the reviews make it out to be?

I mean, I freaking hated JJ's Star Trek, and it was praised to high heaven. This one has a better script writer on it, so I have a bit of hope.

I know it has to be better, than the last 3. But is it anywhere as good as the first? I find that hard to believe, personally.

It's an overall good movie and if you're an overall fan of the series you'll like it. Many things moved in the right direction, such as the new characters.

Some of the parts are beyond cheesy. Yay it's Harrison Ford let's have him stand there for 10 seconds with a shit eating grin while we all applaud him for being in the movie we already knew he'd be in. C3P0 is as annoying as ever.

Action scenes were decent, albeit I still don't get how in the future no one seems to have an ounce of blood in their bodies after being stabbed / shot.

[GaijinPunch]

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but basically remaking the first two films is another. That's the disappointment for me. It's great to have "stuff" look and feel like Star Wars again - that's what the prequels lacked - but to lift almost every plot point from the OT is weak script writing. It's a shame because the film is good enough to tread it's own path, and it does a bit, but not nearly enough.

Still, it's very good!

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Agreed. It was a bit too nostalgic. But I guess they didn't have to go to the core of the planet which really would have irked the shit out of me.

I will say this: the new storm troopers have way better aim and are by far meaner.

And yes to everything else you stated about the light-heartedness. I mean, it is still supposed to appeal to kids and adults a like... which is why I call bullshit on Lucas when he says the prequels were made for kids. No kids movie has ever had their words "trade embargo" mentioned in the first paragraph of the script. O.o

[GaijinPunch]

So, while we're all here, any thoughts on the director choice for Episode VIII? Had never heard of him and looked up his credits on IMDB. Not a huge fan of Looper (direction was fine... I just didn't like all the points of the story) but he's done 3 episodes of Breaking Bad... one being regarded as the best episode by some (Ozymandias), and another personal favorite (Fly).

[Drachenherz]

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but basically remaking the first two films is another. That's the disappointment for me. It's great to have "stuff" look and feel like Star Wars again - that's what the prequels lacked - but to lift almost every plot point from the OT is weak script writing. It's a shame because the film is good enough to tread it's own path, and it does a bit, but not nearly enough.

Still, it's very good!

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Agreed. It was a bit too nostalgic. But I guess they didn't have to go to the core of the planet which really would have irked the shit out of me.

I will say this: the new storm troopers have way better aim and are by far meaner.

And yes to everything else you stated about the light-heartedness. I mean, it is still supposed to appeal to kids and adults a like... which is why I call bullshit on Lucas when he says the prequels were made for kids. No kids movie has ever had their words "trade embargo" mentioned in the first paragraph of the script. O.o

Yeah, I agree. And Kylo... he...

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he is a villain par excellence. He could do what none of his Relatives could do: kill one of his own blood. Teen Angst put aside, he is a great villain with very much potential. Really curious how that will be played out.

[supergrafx77]

It blew and is still continuing to blow my mind....
It was PERFECT.

[GaijinPunch]

This is a great after-viewing tibit.

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http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-12- ... ce-awakens

[DJ Incompetent]

Did Disney ever agree that they were going to definitively conclude the episodic series with IX like Lucas originally intended?

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Because if the events of IV-V-VI didn't seem to matter at all, I'm watching a diversity-reboot of 4 now, the music is tensionless, and I find all the villains to be unintimidating whiny pussies, I reckon I spotted the business plan. I think I'm gonna save $34 on tickets and wait till the X-XI-XII reboot-reboot hoping the tweaks are better.

"Ok-ok-ok, this time, in X, we'll give Poe Solo 90s comic book armor! And-and his brother is Jango Jinn with megaman legs but they totally don't know they're related till XII!"

[bulbousbeard]

The real problem with this movie is that the music absolutely blows cock. It's really, really generic and forgettable. That's kind of a cardinal sin for a Star Wars movie. Just that flaw is going to prevent it from being a classic. These movies WERE the music.

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Did anyone else think Leia completely SUCKED in this? Not only did the script give her NOTHING to work with, but Carrie Fisher delivered the lines really poorly. I really disliked how Leia immediately trusted Finn. It felt so limp and out of character for her. That character wouldn't have immediately told Finn how "brave" he was. She should have been skeptical. In general, she should have had more attitude. It just wasn't the same character. It was a neutered version of Leia. The highest compliment I can give this movie is that I wanted more of the new characters and less of the old ones. They just really weren't that good in this movie. People have been talking about how great Harrison Ford was in this movie, but he really wasn't. His reading of the "we've lost our son...forever" line was painfully awful. He was TRYING to not crack a smile while saying that. It was just so fucking bad. A lot of his line readings were stilted and awkward. Some of this crap can be blamed on the writers, though. How the fuck can anyone read a line like "It was Snoke. He seduced your son to the dark side." Geezus that's fucking awful. Who came up with the STUPID name "Snoke?" We're going to have to keep hearing that dumb name for at least two more movies...just pathetic.

There are some other problems in it typical of contemporary movies, but nothing that completely ruins it.

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As with all contemporary blockbusters, the audience gets treated like a bunch of retards. There are so many awkward and stupid lines that come out of being spoon fed every plot detail. Think about it. There were lines between Han and Leia constantly referring to him as "our son" when normal people would NEVER use that kind of language.

The music, though...wow, John Williams blew it.

[bulbousbeard]

Did Disney ever agree that they were going to definitively conclude the episodic series with IX like Lucas originally intended?

Conclude? That's cute. They're going to grind this property completely into the ground. You'll see a movie every year until people stop paying for them. Disney didn't buy this property to do anything less than bleed every last drop out of it. The only reason I'm happy overall that Lucas sold it is that it means we might at least get unaltered 4-6 in a modern format out of it. Other than that, we're just going to watch Star Wars burn.

[DJ Incompetent]

Did Disney ever agree that they were going to definitively conclude the episodic series with IX like Lucas originally intended?

Conclude? That's cute. They're going to grind this property completely into the ground. You'll see a movie every year until people stop paying for them. Disney didn't buy this property to do anything less than bleed every last drop out of it. The only reason I'm happy overall that Lucas sold it is that it means we might at least get unaltered 4-6 in a modern format out of it. Other than that, we're just going to watch Star Wars burn.

We're in agreement of the business future then. White People High-Five!

Let's crowdscreenplay Episode X! It'll be fun! I have some notes Disney can buy off me!

~ The new Grand Moff Tarkin commanding officer character that outranks the sith badass for whatever reason will be named Grand Moff Schadenfreude. The second he sees an x-wing outside a window, he says his catchphrase, "oh, fuck these Bothans" and immediately evacuates. He'll do this 8 times throughout the X-XI-XII trilogy.

~ The new sith wannabe will be named Kylee Stimpy (ha-haa wordplay!). Her weapon will be batman gauntlets but every spike of the gauntlets will be a baby dagger lightsaber. Every time Kylee Stimpy goes into battle, she has to yell "TRADE NEGOTIATIONSSS" to create that sense of dread and fear the audience will have with the character. Her new gimmicky "why didn't a jedi/sith ever use that power before to solve a great number of problems" force power will be Akuma's PPP lateral teleport.

~ The overarching super sith master bad guy will be Emporer Tarantino Sethorcantinople. He will have a very long old man mustache but no beard. All of his sentences will sound menacing at first but will trail off as half his face strokes-up to appear more sinister and old. His new suprise force power revealed in Episode XII will be Tien's Solar Flare from Dragon Ball.

~ The new lead hero will be named Cornilio Xhang completely to appeal to the now-dominate U.S. latino population at the time while also relating to China's country censors to allow the film to be shown in the mainland. Cornilio will be unwillingly pulled into each plot event as his overarching whiny motivation delivered in a lispy voice is to obtain C-Cigarettes from the Jawa trade outpost which is just a sandcrawler with "Sofa King" stamped on it without an intelligible punchline. His big Episode XII reveal is that his real name is Bently Skywalker and he was raised in secret by the androgynous kids of Kyle Katarn and Dash Rendar. His new jedi outfit will have lots of needless extra belts tied on limbs to make him look more badass to the LGBTQA community and Japan. His standard "Luke's Theme" will be changed to sad renditions of "Walking on Sunshine" by Katrina & The Waves.

~ All supporting characters and final space battle pilots will be named after mishmashes of words from the original episode I screenplay after being submitted through babelfish-German, Gizoogle, then Google Translate-English. All females will have "Rey" shoehorned somewhere into the prefix or suffix of a name to resonate a badass female quality with the audience.

~ The new planet-killer orb will be named Popstar to appeal to the second teen generation after millennials (Gen AA?). It will be a suspicious moon but will have a spherical holographic projector displaying an inconspicuous object for stealth cover. The director will still believe in practical special effects, so the giant holographic object will be another left shoe appearing as an asteroid used in Episode V.

~ The new-old lightsaber will be delivered in a "passed-down" fashion to the new Skywalker character by FedEx, as enough timeline jumps have taken place between trilogies that the timeline setting is now within a period of Earth's civilization, so company product placement is now possible.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Read the front page of USA Today dated 12/21/2015 that read SW:TFA garners $238 million at the U.S. box office during it's opening weekend debut (a new record for the history books).

The thing about watching any of the first six SW films on opening day was, you couldn't get advanced tickets and was regulated to "first come, first served" type of deal. Sure, I went to the first showing of RoTJ, TPM, AoTC, RoTS films back in the day & they were quite memorable/remarkable in their own right.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Durandal]

Why is this guy so fucking cool?

[Strider77]

Because someone made a GIF of him.

[PROMETHEUS]

I didn't like it much. I expect more from a movie, including a Star Wars. For me the prequels are pretty bad except for a bunch of scenes, and in the old movies I think I would say The Empire Strikes Back is the only one I would call an overall good movie. It has depth and most things makes sense, makes me feel like I'm in the movie and think about why things happen that way or another. In the prequels there is a lot of stupid flashy stuff / cheesy moments that quickly make you forget the few interesting moments or characters.

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Now this 7 for me felt like it was making fun of the old star wars. Aesthetically it comes back from the overflashyness of prequels and there are some nice pictures and even moments @the beginning. But then everything is so flat. There is no depth. The large scale plot is void. The "First order" is the "same thing" as the Empire with a different name but barely any background (other than being explicitely portrayed as nazi-like which I kinda liked), with a new big weapon that's ridiculously out of meaning in the storyline/reality (how could people not know about it? why does it shoot at 5 worlds @once? why does it reload in 15min?) serving as an excuse to do a simple copy paste of the old climax schematic (with the horrible line by Han Solo "it's gotta have a weakness!" in moments that feel completely like a "let's do the ride again" at an amusement park). Most things have no background, like the "new" rebels/alliance now called the "resistance" being just the same old thing... exactly.. except given no background at all. The new bad guy is an inconsistent Darth Vader copy paste in appearance. I thought he was an interesting vicious/violent/aggressive character in the beginning, but then he goes to easy mellow tones that contradict that to give way to another parent-relationship coming out of nowhere. It tries to go to some climax but there is not much to set it up in a meaningful way. It's dramatic for the sake of drama. This character seems to be born the moment he takes off his mask. It's just so shallow, it feels like the goal is only just to create these pictures and there is nothing behind. Finn doesn't make sense, he doesn't feel like he is someone who was a military clone all his life. The actor is fine, but he probably had nothing to act from. I felt like the movie was actually making fun of me or any fan of Star Wars when stuff happens like Finn finding the robot & the girl by chance right after crashing on the planet. And then they running into Han Solo right after stealing the ship. Or some things happening in combat with no prior training. Rey or Finn being good at lightsaber combat with no training ? Luke never changes location at all, he just stays even on this particular island and left a map ? First time I saw the new "emperor" I thought he was like a "giant" voldemort apparition, another easy way to reuse popular icons/pictures. There were some nice things, like some lines of dialog and some pieces of action, mixed up with other bad lines or pieces of action. I think the opening scenes are rather good. The movie already lost me when Rey meets the droïd and understands him. She shouldn't understand this specific droïd's language. Luke understands R2D2 after spending a lot of time with him. This droïd is also too human-like, like he's a kid and treated as such. It all goes downhill from there. I think this movie has little to do with art or creation and much with entertainment and money, building a superficial set up for two more money making hits targetting broadest audience. But of course at this point nobody expects much more.

Whatever, I give this a 3/5 to be nice. It is shameful in my opinion how averagely high critics are rating the movie, the press is so bought.

[PROMETHEUS]

and bulbousbeard I agree with you

[Leandro]

I just watched this movie. Enjoyed it a lot

As someone who loathed the prequels and don't remember seeing the OT, this one was a pretty fun ride on it's own.

[Phellan Wolf]

Why is this guy so fucking cool?

IMO that shit isn't need on the film. A stormtrooper that fights better than a sith

[blackoak]

I'm still in shock at how bad it was. I'd recite details but it would just be a rehash of the various lists you can find floating about online--the deathandtaxes review mentioned a lot. The writing, the story... I mean, how did they fuck this up SO badly? And I had low expectations!

[kaicooper]

some fans will never like any new Star Wars at all(yes prequels = shit but the new one is very good)
even if its masterpiece ..they will keep saying OH ITS DISAPPOINT and etc

the best solution is to watch the classics over and over..thats it

[Strider77]

You can't do that easily either lol.

[Opus131]

Why is this guy so fucking cool?

IMO that shit isn't need on the film. A stormtrooper that fights better than a sith

Anybody who thinks that's cool deserves everything modern Hollywood is giving them.

Just saw the movie. I was expecting bad, and what i got was worst than bad. It is unbelievable that people actually think this tripe is a great return to form.

[Opus131]

some fans will never like any new Star Wars at all(yes prequels = shit but the new one is very good)
even if its masterpiece ..they will keep saying OH ITS DISAPPOINT and etc

the best solution is to watch the classics over and over..thats it

Hogwash. I'm not a Star Wars fan and i think the movie is just plain terrible in almost every sense. I'd say it is precisely on the same level of bad as the prequels. It just happens to look a little nicer, which isn't saying much. Reminds of Prometheus. Decent visuals, but terrible everything else.

The only thing i liked about this film was Han Solo, as ridiculous as he looked as a 70 years old man. I never thought Harrison Ford was a great actor but by God compared to everybody else in the film he was on a Shakespeare level of greatness.

[Strider77]

Scorned...

[dan76]

Why is this guy so fucking cool?

Why isn't this guy Captain Phasma?

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She could've had this fight with Finn. Underused character, would've made more sense for her to be able to fight in this style.

[NTSC-J]

I was expecting bad, and what i got was worst than bad.

I'm not a Star Wars fan

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