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Re: Guide to owning a Japanese 360

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Possibly a dumb ass question... but I have a XBOX360 ASIA and have a Hong Kong account on it. I was browsing the Games On Demand category with the HK account and found Raiden Fighters Aces.

If I pay for Raiden Fighters Aces with that account will it be possible for me to use my European account to play the game? Or do I have to switch back and forth?

I'm not sure that I'l be able to use Games On Demand at all, but would like to know before I try. Any help appreciated!

EDIT - I guess it won't work... I forgot that Games On Demand is IP locked... :(
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If you get points and do it..

I think it may work for all accounts on that 360. But if you install on another console it will only work with the account that purchased it. That seems to be how it works with Arcade releases etc as well.
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njiska wrote:This is great advice, I didn't realize until today that HMV JP shipped over seas. Thanks to a recent bonus I'm soon to be the proud owner of:

X360 JP Arcade
Ketsui LE (less than $40 via Amazon)
Death Smiles IIx LE
DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou
BlazBlue Continuum Shift LE (via HMV)
I'm now looking into getting a X360 JP myself, but I'm wondering about custom rates in Canada for that. Was it significantly higher than the regular tax rate?
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vld99 wrote:
njiska wrote:This is great advice, I didn't realize until today that HMV JP shipped over seas. Thanks to a recent bonus I'm soon to be the proud owner of:

X360 JP Arcade
Ketsui LE (less than $40 via Amazon)
Death Smiles IIx LE
DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou
BlazBlue Continuum Shift LE (via HMV)
I'm now looking into getting a X360 JP myself, but I'm wondering about custom rates in Canada for that. Was it significantly higher than the regular tax rate?
Most of the stuff i bought I had shipped by a friend and marked as gift, so no duty.

BBCS, which I bought from HMV, shipped with EMS and got handed off to Canada Post as an Xpresspost package. Customs only charges normal sales tax, but Canpost will add a handling fee. Think mine was $8. Generally it's not too bad.
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thanks all for this string.
I was wondering what other games are japanese only? I think the wiki for the games is outdated.
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schnoo wrote:thanks all for this string.
I was wondering what other games are japanese only? I think the wiki for the games is outdated.
What wiki?
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The rule of thumb is pretty easy to use and more than 99% accurate:

If the game is by a US Developer, with the major exception of Fallout 3, the game is Region Free. (Fallout 3 had terminology in the US release deemed "Possibly offensive to the Japanese people" and the Otaku cried when they heard that the only US developed game they had ever looked forward to had been censored "for their protection." all of my Japanese friends had nothing to say when I spit the words "Now you know what its like to live in the United States" to them when they complained about this)

If the game is by a JP Developer, with several minor exceptions, the game is Region Locked. (Later Dance Dance Revolution titles released by Konami of America which were developed in Japan were sold Unlocked because they stopped shipping Dance Dance Revolution titles on the Xbox 360 in Japan. They just kind of "overlooked" the fact that people in Japan would import them.)

If the game is by a EU Developer, its a 50/50, but if you don't have an HD TV, you will be in PAL Hell anyway. (Remember that the Xbox 360 and PS3 both obey PAL signaling even though its 2010 and nearly every TV in Europe sold today accepts an NTSC signal. If your TV doesn't support PAL Signaling, and the game doesn't support NTSC signaling, playing it in a Standard Definition graphics mode will punt you back into "Signal out of range" territory. 480p over HDMI, 720p in general and 1080p should not suffer from this issue, nor would any output over a VGA cable)
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http://www.yesasia.com/us/1012894919-0-0-0-en/info.html

Not sure if this goes here or not. Ketsui is on sale at YesAsia for $60.
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dieKatze88 wrote:If the game is by a EU Developer, its a 50/50, but if you don't have an HD TV, you will be in PAL Hell anyway. (Remember that the Xbox 360 and PS3 both obey PAL signaling even though its 2010 and nearly every TV in Europe sold today accepts an NTSC signal. If your TV doesn't support PAL Signaling, and the game doesn't support NTSC signaling, playing it in a Standard Definition graphics mode will punt you back into "Signal out of range" territory. 480p over HDMI, 720p in general and 1080p should not suffer from this issue, nor would any output over a VGA cable)
All PAL releases this gen support 60Hz over RGB Scart. In fact, some PAL releases are 60Hz-only (as stated on the front of the game boxes, eg Halo 3, Gears of War, etc.). Any region-free PAL game will work perfectly on an NTSC console. IIRC, apart from the Wii, there's no such thing as 50Hz-only releases any more.
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bcass wrote:
dieKatze88 wrote:If the game is by a EU Developer, its a 50/50, but if you don't have an HD TV, you will be in PAL Hell anyway. (Remember that the Xbox 360 and PS3 both obey PAL signaling even though its 2010 and nearly every TV in Europe sold today accepts an NTSC signal. If your TV doesn't support PAL Signaling, and the game doesn't support NTSC signaling, playing it in a Standard Definition graphics mode will punt you back into "Signal out of range" territory. 480p over HDMI, 720p in general and 1080p should not suffer from this issue, nor would any output over a VGA cable)
All PAL releases this gen support 60Hz over RGB Scart. In fact, some PAL releases are 60Hz-only (as stated on the front of the game boxes, eg Halo 3, Gears of War, etc.). Any region-free PAL game will work perfectly on an NTSC console. IIRC, apart from the Wii, there's no such thing as 50Hz-only releases any more.
I heard that some PS3 games were suffering from a 50hz only issue, and that some 360 games (mostly cross platform ones) fell into this category as well. Either way, why on EARTH would you buy the usually more expensive PAL release?
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Because I live in the UK and it's easier to just nip down to the shops rather than waiting for mail order.
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I have never imported a console before so I don't know much about dealing with power differences between regions, but will I be able to safely use the power supply from a new Japanese 360 slim model in North America? I think I can, but I just want to be absolutely sure. The plastic bag containing the PSU has a label on it reading 110V, and I live in Canada where the mains voltage is 120V. Thanks.

Also, thanks for the guide, Elixir; it's really helpful.
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To be 100% safe, use a PSU from your home region's consoles. For instance, PAL PSUs operate at 220~230V, so I had to get one.
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Aisha wrote:I have never imported a console before so I don't know much about dealing with power differences between regions, but will I be able to safely use the power supply from a new Japanese 360 slim model in North America? I think I can, but I just want to be absolutely sure. The plastic bag containing the PSU has a label on it reading 110V, and I live in Canada where the mains voltage is 120V. Thanks.

Also, thanks for the guide, Elixir; it's really helpful.
A lot of people here are from Europe and therefore are voltage paranoid, and will tell you things like "buy a domestic Xbox and use its power supply to be sure"

You are from the United States/Canada. Your outlets provide AC110 just like in Japan. buy your Xbox and plug it in without fear, for the outlets in your walls are the same as those in Japan for a reason.
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bump. Watching a video I'm pretty sure theres a free weekend for JP accounts 16th to 19th.

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Premium themes for Galuda II and DeathSmiles II went up on the third of September. Did anyone bother with them? Can't find previews anywhere.
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Here's previews of the Galuda II and Deathsmiles II themes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brigFaAczWI Galuda II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8eX13Mlnrc Deathsmiles II

Also, this may interest some of you: http://twitter.com/shmups/status/23137662149

It's about time someone offered digital Japanese points.
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Excellent, and about time too. If people are using these to buy Games On Demand, all the current shumps on the JPN GoD service are also available on the Asian Marketplace, and they're cheaper. Asian points cards are also cheaper than JPN points cards.
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bcass wrote:Excellent, and about time too. If people are using these to buy Games On Demand, all the current shumps on the JPN GoD service are also available on the Asian Marketplace, and they're cheaper. Asian points cards are also cheaper than JPN points cards.
I'm guessing the Asian store still requires a proxy in order to download GoD titles?
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Unfortunately, yes.
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Oh well.

I just noticed that there's Galuda II gamerpics on the Japanese store. I'll update the original post again.
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Is the final total displayed on HMV Japan really the final total? ¥20,057 for a 360 shipped to the US seems really cheap... I have a feeling that the shipping price may change after I enter my cc info :?
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HMV always predicts 12,000JPY for overseas shipping. Once you place the order they will get an accurate quote and then email you the updated total. If you do not respond to the email in 7 days they'll automatically cancel the order. Your cc will not be charged until the order is finalized. This is the process i went through ordering BlazBlue CS back in June. It's weird but it's how they roll.
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wow that DSII theme is real ugly. not worth changing my deathsmiles premium theme 2 for.
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Elixir wrote: It's about time someone offered digital Japanese points.
I guess I'm confused. I've never had anyone physically ship my Japanese point cards to me. I've always simply received the code via e-mail. So basically Play Asia is finally doing what NCSX and JapanVideoGames always did?
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brentsg wrote:
Elixir wrote: It's about time someone offered digital Japanese points.
I guess I'm confused. I've never had anyone physically ship my Japanese point cards to me. I've always simply received the code via e-mail. So basically Play Asia is finally doing what NCSX and JapanVideoGames always did?
Yep.

And have I been mistaken, or does HMV Japan ship gaming hardware outside of Japan now?

I know they ship CDs and books, but the have a disclaimer that says certain things can't be shipped, which we all know games fall under.

They ship games now?
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PsychoGun wrote:
brentsg wrote:
Elixir wrote: It's about time someone offered digital Japanese points.
I guess I'm confused. I've never had anyone physically ship my Japanese point cards to me. I've always simply received the code via e-mail. So basically Play Asia is finally doing what NCSX and JapanVideoGames always did?
Yep.

And have I been mistaken, or does HMV Japan ship gaming hardware outside of Japan now?

I know they ship CDs and books, but the have a disclaimer that says certain things can't be shipped, which we all know games fall under.

They ship games now?
They sure do.
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Retail releases:

Space Invaders: Infinity Gene - 2010
King of Fighters: Sky Stage - 2010

XBLA releases:

Radiant Silvergun XBLA - TBA

Also updated "How can you tell the difference between console versions?", "Where can I purchase one from?", "What are the differences between the Japanese and US marketplaces?" sectionsa and removed the XNA list, if someone wants to list Xbox Indie shmups I'll add them to the original post or else I'll continue believing that literally no one cares.
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The american version of kof skystage has the import version hidden, just switch the language on your 360 to japanese. don't waste your import points, it'll just cost more.
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Adding:

- Do I need to upgrade my HDD? Will all the shmups fit on a HDD of x size?

As of September 2010, these are the sizes of installed 360 shmups, from smallest to largest (under construction):

Raiden IV: 378 MB
Raiden Fighters Aces: 477 MB
ESPGaluda II: 659 MB
Ketsui Kizunajigokutachi Extra: 848 MB
Mushihimesama Futari: 1100 MB
DeathSmiles II X: 1200 MB
Shikigami no Shiro III: 1400 MB
Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label Extra: 2300 MB
Shooting Love 200X: 3000 MB
DeathSmiles: 3100 MB
Otomedius G: 3500 MB

Total: 17,962 MB (17.9 GB). A 20 GB is only around 13400 MB (13.4 GB), so in order to install all shmups, a larger HDD would be required. This list doesn't include XBLA titles.


If anyone can add to this list, feel free. I've only added the games which I own. I still need sizes for Mamorukun, Senko and Senko DUO, Strike Witches and uh.. most XBLA titles, I guess.
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