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regarding XII Stag, according to back-ups of gemant's old site the top score was:

R. - 14,327,060 - ALL
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The most important thing from the last Arcadia...

BATTLE GAREGGA IS BANNED FOR INFINITE PATTERN.

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Gemant wrote:The most important thing from the last Arcadia...

BATTLE GAREGGA IS BANNED FOR INFINITE PATTERN.

no new scores accepted.
http://youtu.be/4Tr0otuiQuU

we need more info here, don't leave us hanging bro
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Haha what

Did they provide any details?
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no details.... I read this info in the "update rules box" of arcadia 162.
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Gemant wrote:no details.... I read this info in the "update rules box" of arcadia 162.
Could there be any hints here: http://sdd-kae.de-blog.jp/arcade/2014/03/post_f7c1.html (via http://kohada.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gam ... 7928/l1000)
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Looks like Kamui has reached her goal to finally destroy Garegga once and for all.

It was bound to happen.
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That blog post is really interesting, seems like it's possible to milk those circling planes more than normal without making the game crash/freeze later, a proper translation would be great though.
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ciox wrote:That blog post is really interesting, seems like it's possible to milk those circling planes more than normal without making the game crash/freeze later, a proper translation would be great though.
I had seen a video on nico about this.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22074379
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The link explains it all. If you milk the circling planes for too long, Black Heart won't appear and you can milk the mini Black Heart's forever. However, this way you won't be able to beat the game and as we all know Arcadia ranks clear higher than score.

The real problem is, that if you somehow destroy the circling planes at the right time, Black Heart itself will indeed appear, but won't time out! If you don't shoot for the core, you can milk his wings forever. You can still destroy him by shooting the core though and thus get absurdly high scores.
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Gemant wrote:I had seen a video on nico about this.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22074379
If this is the problem for Garegga.... maybe also Battle Bakraid will be banned for the same reason (?).
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Plasmo wrote:The link explains it all. If you milk the circling planes for too long, Black Heart won't appear and you can milk the mini Black Heart's forever. However, this way you won't be able to beat the game and as we all know Arcadia ranks clear higher than score.

The real problem is, that if you somehow destroy the circling planes at the right time, Black Heart itself will indeed appear, but won't time out! If you don't shoot for the core, you can milk his wings forever. You can still destroy him by shooting the core though and thus get absurdly high scores.
Thanks, I couldn't quite put it together.
Sadly the decision makes sense since even if there is evidence of fair play (a photo of your score after st5 is finished would do), it would be a lot of trouble for a magazine to include it.
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There are videos floating around showing similar infinite patterns for both Bakraid and Batrider. They just haven't gotten exploited as much as in Garegga because of the smaller fanbase. Who knows what is possible in these games.

The current WRs of Bakraid and Batrider were not done with any infinite patterns.
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Plasmo wrote:The link explains it all. If you milk the circling planes for too long, Black Heart won't appear and you can milk the mini Black Heart's forever. However, this way you won't be able to beat the game and as we all know Arcadia ranks clear higher than score.

The real problem is, that if you somehow destroy the circling planes at the right time, Black Heart itself will indeed appear, but won't time out! If you don't shoot for the core, you can milk his wings forever. You can still destroy him by shooting the core though and thus get absurdly high scores.
wouldn't black heart still be firing bullets at you the entire time? i understand it could lead to a counterstop, but it sounds incredibly difficult

edit: good point dex!
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Well, thanks for the explanation guys.

So a version of this glitch was known for a while?
wouldn't black heart still be firing bullets at you the entire time? i understand it could lead to a counterstop, but it sounds incredibly difficult
If your rank is low enough, you'd likely be able to get extends faster than you'd lose them. It becomes an endurance run at that point.
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So a version of this glitch was known for a while?
There were rumours about an infinite pattern since last summer at least.

If your rank is low enough, you'd likely be able to get extends faster than you'd lose them. It becomes an endurance run at that point.
That's the question. Rank is indeed an issue and even if you can survive Black Heart, stage 6 is going to rip you apart on max rank. The game might actually be impossible to clear. But since it theoretically works, it's banned from Arcadia.
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Did you guys know about this? Is it legit?

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That doesn't really look at all legit. Maybe it's just because the video is sped up.
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I'm seeing lots of TAS-like dodges in there.
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That's the old "aichi-ken" replay. It's a known TAS.
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sikraiken wrote:That's the old "aichi-ken" replay. It's a known TAS.
oh, I see. Nevermind then.
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Hi! Any new scores for this month?
Thanks.
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As I mentioned before, Arcadia is bi-monthly now so no April issue. New scores will come in at the end of this month and will probably show up online around the first week of May.
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Sorry, I understand. Thanks.
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A few scores need updating:

DFK BL:

West (Bomb): Erppo - 763.887.955.360 - ALL EX - C - Autobomb OFF

World (Power): TAB-T.N - 2.093.560.385.516 - ALL EX - B
West (Power): øS-Rechiku - 1.425.853.639.737 - ALL EX - B

World (Strong): SYL - 1.457.656.302.861 - ALL EX2 - B - Autobomb OFF
West (Strong): ADI - 789.389.454.343 - 4 - B - Autobomb OFF


Ketsui:

West (Ura) : x91 - 450.105.708 - ALL - Type A

EDIT:

SPS said on twitter he's also practicing Omote for Stunfest... and he got a new World Record:

World (Omote): SPS - 507.780.433 - ALL - Type A
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Was about to freak out over Rechiku's score when I realized it was BL. :D Still, good shit.

Here's another one to add to the World Records pile:

https://twitter.com/Kernel_in/status/457466873412452352

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New DSMBL record AFAIK.
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adversity1 wrote:Was about to freak out over Rechiku's score when I realized it was BL. :D Still, good shit.

Here's another one to add to the World Records pile:

https://twitter.com/Kernel_in/status/457466873412452352

New DSMBL record AFAIK.
Wow, 16 bil! :shock:
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Moar DSMBL goodness.
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May I ask what is the known Western Record on Crimzon Clover in Unlimited mode (all ship included) , please ?

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adversity1 wrote:Here's another one to add to the World Records pile:

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New DSMBL record AFAIK.
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