The future of Cave

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Even when playing for score Futari BL is still pretty easy. God is the only mode that took me more than 2 weeks to get a good score lol
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Drachenherz wrote:
Estebang wrote:Futari BL is the only shmup I've 1CCed on my first try. (No, I wasn't on God.)
How did you play BL original? I managed to 1cc BL Original ONCE, and then never again...

Because I can't stop playing for score. As soon as you jack up the gem count and point blank those buggers like a maniac, difficulty definitely increases.

Hmm... Althoug it is against my principles, I have to try to 1cc it again, leaving the gem-counter as low as possible. Because at my current playstyle of BL, I reach Stage 5 regularly, but it's difficult to even get to larsa, yet alone beat her.
Same here.

As soon as I get past the Stage 3 midboss, I have to start playing against the rank and hoping for difficult spots to come up so I can have an excuse to bomb so that I can lower the rank keep the game from getting out of hand.
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It really isn't that difficult to balance scoring/survival play in BL Original. Assuming you're playing as Reco the trick is to just focus on getting your options to latch onto enemies and get gems that way as opposed to just regular point-blanking everything in sight.
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Siliconera interview with CAVE regarding Instant Brain and how to make the 360 popular in Japan.

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/11/10/ca ... -in-japan/
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It’s important that more 360 exclusive titles arrive on the system. In the way I look at it, games and hardware have to be thought of together, so for hardware to be successful you have to develop games. While Xbox 360 is very popular internationally, it’s not as popular in Japan at the moment. I think things can change if there are more exclusive titles from Cave and other developers for the system.
*Looks at calendar* Theres 2011 written on it, not 2005 :roll:
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Gus wrote:It really isn't that difficult to balance scoring/survival play in BL Original. Assuming you're playing as Reco the trick is to just focus on getting your options to latch onto enemies and get gems that way as opposed to just regular point-blanking everything in sight.
I actually have a lot of fun in BL original for one reason: My gf has called the Rico scoreboard. She doesn't want me to puch all of her scores off the table, so in 1.5 orig and BL orig I can only play as Palm.

I'm totally ok with that, as BL original is a lot of fun with Palm.
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Last_Dancer wrote:
It’s important that more 360 exclusive titles arrive on the system. In the way I look at it, games and hardware have to be thought of together, so for hardware to be successful you have to develop games. While Xbox 360 is very popular internationally, it’s not as popular in Japan at the moment. I think things can change if there are more exclusive titles from Cave and other developers for the system.
*Looks at calendar* Theres 2011 written on it, not 2005 :roll:
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in 2012 cave will probably focus mainly on cellphone platform to release their games.
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Yeah, I would not be shocked if Cave didn't release a single console or arcade game in 2012, and the Vita shooter was their only non-phone release.

How would we all react if the Vita took over from the 360 as the new console du jour of shmups, anyway? It's a definite possibility, what with handhelds dominating the Japanese game market.
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How would we all react if the Vita took over from the 360 as the new console du jour of shmups, anyway? It's a definite possibility, what with handhelds dominating the Japanese game market.
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Here's a link to nice pics of the 2010 Cave Matsuri
http://www.blog.ochamocha.com/2010/12/c ... -2010.html

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I wonder how good that Ketsui keyboard is for games. Nice pictures, F-man. :D
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they didn't sell the keyboard, just the Kestui cube keyboard stickers...
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Fudoh wrote:they didn't sell the keyboard, just the Kestui cube keyboard stickers...
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BPzeBanshee wrote:
Fudoh wrote:they didn't sell the keyboard, just the Kestui cube keyboard stickers...
:(
Don't worry. If there are Death Smiles hentai doujinshi, then someone will surely make a Ketsui keyboard. There already is a Rubik cube.
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I so want that Ketsui rubiks cube. I might actually start speedsolving again with that beauty. :lol:
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Keyboard stickers are so lame
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TrevHead (TVR) wrote:Keyboard stickers are so lame
amen, all of it was lame.
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I have no idea why they don't put that shit up on their online shop. Call it a "limited" offer or something. Do they hate making money?
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Gus wrote:I have no idea why they don't put that shit up on their online shop. Call it a "limited" offer or something. Do they hate making money?
A company that likes making money would've moved on from a dead genre like that in the first place
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Bananamatic wrote:
Gus wrote:I have no idea why they don't put that shit up on their online shop. Call it a "limited" offer or something. Do they hate making money?
A company that likes making money would've moved on from a dead genre like that in the first place
With something like Instant Brain?

Although I guess its a little late in the game. I dunno, I can't think of any other developer that could put such value to stickers and suction cups.
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TrevHead (TVR) wrote:Keyboard stickers are so lame
They better be good for the price they were selling those. Everything looks too overpriced if you ask me... I mean, you can tell they are milking the fans for all they are worth. From here to pachinkos and lesbian h-manga with Ibara/Death Smiles characters it's just a step.

I'm surprised there weren't any ship model kits and that kind of stuff people would buy in an instant. Who wants a Hibachi on flames decorating the house? (Or setting the house on fire?)

I think we might see another SH3 game next year. Like someone else said, they are going to get rid of the remaining boards one way or the other. Next projects will probably be on pseudo-PCs ala Taito TypeX. Things will surely get so close for comfort that the Earth will crash into the sun!

That's the positive future I see. The negative future is they turn into a silly non-H VN company and sink miserably. Tits and pussy, CAVE. That's what sells! And you are selling it on the wrong platform, dammit!

edit: the above text doesn't make much sense and was fuelled by many (MANY) cups of coffee. Attempts at being serious business failed completely. :P
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The negative future is they turn into a silly non-H VN company
The smartphones would suggest otherwise. Instant Brain is just an experiment.

A more realistic worst-case scenario is Cave doomed to churning out endless social games and Angry Birds/Cut the Rope clones, or at least heavily toned down and casual-friendly touchscreen shmups.

Why haven't they done a smartphone Uo Poko yet?
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Observer wrote:That's the positive future I see. The negative future is they turn into a silly non-H VN company and sink miserably. Tits and pussy, CAVE. That's what sells! And you are selling it on the wrong platform, dammit!
Well... Key is a very succesful company as well as many other that makes non-H VN... Umineko has been one of the best sold Sound Novel (Although I group it with the VN's) of all times...

But wasn't this a "let's cry for the death of Cave's shmups" thread? So why must we think in a way to let then survive? It's better to let then sink and then, people inside the company who are interested on shmups will work on other companies or start Toaplan III "Tomorrow Never Dies"

I think this would be the BEST outcome... at least for us :D
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I have seen the future and it is apparently mousepads with large silicone wrist rests

Knowing CAVE I'm willing to bet that the wrist rest on the Follet mousepad is more substantial than the Windia mousepad
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pentarou wrote:Image

I have seen the future and it is apparently mousepads with large silicone wrist rests

Knowing CAVE I'm willing to bet that the wrist rest on the Follet mousepad is more substantial than the Windia mousepad
No rosa? I like my wrist to have the best cushioning as possible.
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pentarou wrote:Image

I have seen the future and it is apparently mousepads with large silicone wrist rests

Knowing CAVE I'm willing to bet that the wrist rest on the Follet mousepad is more substantial than the Windia mousepad
That's simply not possible!!!! :shock: ... she's a loli with a flat chest as Casper! :evil:

@ Anti-Fritz:

Usually, slutty and onee-sama characters aren't as nearly as popular to the loli and innocent types... just think about japan and their ppermanent pedophylia :)
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Windia was 13 in 2007, so she's 17 now. The boobs are totally legit!

I do love the idea of cushion hierarchy from Casper to Rosa, though, I think Cave could have been onto a nice marketing trick there.
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moozooh wrote:Windia was 13 in 2007, so she's 17 now. The boobs are totally legit!

I do love the idea of cushion hierarchy from Casper to Rosa, though, I think Cave could have been onto a nice marketing trick there.
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Slight change in topic, but heres an intresting article about the hoops indies have to jump through to get their games on XBLA

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011- ... ry-article
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