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Pretty much the technique Leeram describes here. :smile:

Basically: upon reaching the boss area wipe out all minor enemies, then immediately destroy the middle core's barricades and get up close to the core itself. This'll cause the left and right cores to fire their spheres straight across at you, trapping them at the top of the screen (the middle core won't fire any at all). Keep it up, and eventually most of the spheres that'd normally be bouncing around the screen will be harmlessly, permanently stuck up top. With four options, laser and missiles all firing during this, you can then make short work of all three cores. Even if a couple of spheres get loose in the baiting phase, it's a cinch to avoid them and the cores won't last long. I like to bait four or five shots apiece, then make a break and speed-kill all three cores.

I've tested it dozens of times in MAME and the Deluxe Pack (PS1) - worked every time (Loop 1, default difficulty). The margin for error while baiting the spheres is pretty generous - you have to really try to collide with the middle core, and even if the spheres aren't baited dead-straight across, there's an invisible line they'll very likely bounce off of.

There's also the lower-right safespot timeout method, which Spy Yamato goes straight for in his Loop 10 no-miss (available at super-play.co.uk). Probably worth practicing that in case later loops have any nasty surprises. I can do it consistently, but I don't like it much since it's pretty easy to bump the wall and die. If that happens I just rush the leftmost core, destroy it and hide in its recess until timeout (nothing can hit you there, either, unless you're slow to reach the top of the screen - then a sphere might get you from the side). Here's a screencap of a location that works for me (the background is helpful).
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Well, wonders never cease. Turns out you can deathbomb in Psikyo games. Or maybe there's some other explanation, but whatever the case I'm bombing and sometimes it doesn't count it as a bomb. I don't think my ROM is messed up, so this is certainly odd.
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RNGmaster wrote:Well, wonders never cease. Turns out you can deathbomb in Psikyo games. Or maybe there's some other explanation, but whatever the case I'm bombing and sometimes it doesn't count it as a bomb. I don't think my ROM is messed up, so this is certainly odd.
Considering the dozens (fuckin dozens) of times in Psikyo games where I've died at the same time I pressed the bomb button I'd call bullshit on your claim, but after reading it again I'm not sure what you're saying exactly. You mean you use a bomb but you don't actually lose a bomb from your stock? That does sound wierd.
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Sorry I didn't clarify. I'm essentially getting a free bomb. I made it to 1-6 boss with 8 bombs in stock, dropped 2, and ended up with 7. Fuckin' miracles, man.
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I'm playing Radio Zonde.
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I'm playing Embodiment of Scarlet Devil.
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I'm trying to beat ZengarZombolt's Dragon Blaze score.
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And that reminds me, I should try Radio Zonde. Pity it's asking for a DLL that I don't have...
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Yesterday, I played a bit of rRootage, and I completed about one level in Ikaruga Mode and one level in Psyvariar Mode. I'm at Tier 5 for Psyvariar, Ikaruga, and Giga Wing modes while I'm tier 6 for Normal Mode.

Things are getting harder from here on.
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^The last couple tiers in rRootage are completely insane. I've played quite a bit of it on iPad and enjoy just how silly it gets.

I finally made it to Stage-5 boss in Ketsui! Unfortunately I didn't have the composure to keep it together. I bomb spammed too early thinking I might squeak through the last two patterns, didn't quite work out and only got him down to 1/3 life. Still though, I'm happy to have even gotten past those damn clones and the rest of Stage-5.
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This week I revisited Edens Aegis when I recently discovered on a youtube video the charge shot can be shot in quick burst instead of unloading the whole bar.
...and Blue Wish Resurrection Plus with a new personal high score on Original (with wait on). I believe the score was around 28000000ish dunno if it reaches million or billion in that game.

^^ I remember playing rRootage on my iPhone back when it was only avaliable on jailbroken phones. Always played IKA on hardest level because my iPhone lagged with many bullets on screen thus making it 10 times easier to move around.
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Dodonpachi again. I'm trying to improve scoring to get to the 2nd extend, and practicing stage 5 a lot. I'm having a blast playing it.
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@ Moniker: Yes, Ballistic is the business. Loves me some JoyJoy too.

Lots of PSP goodness this week. Finally ponied up for Darius Burst. Digging on that, as well as some Salamander and Sexy Parodius.

A bro of mine keeps hassling me to come hang out at UFOArcade (or whatever it's called), and play some Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu. Might finally cave (hur hur) this week and do that very thing.
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Just beat the TG-16 version of R-Type. I can see now why it doesn't have a scoreboard; that 2nd loop is virtually unplayable with all the slowdown and flickering. :lol:
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Jumping around trying to play Batsugun Special and Deathsmiles IIX. I really want to get high scores in both, but I don't know which to choose first.
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Project Repliser. I'm really liking this one, but there's not much superplaying potential. Great as a weapons showcase though.
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Played Crimzon Clover for the first time!

It's kind of epic.
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Mushihimesama... i love this game!
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Just beat Evaccaneer for the first time :D
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ring^-27. I learned that I fare better with bombing than using the Anchor for some reason...

Also, Einhänder. It's pretty much my favorite Horizontal Scrolling Shooter game!
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Buying Gundemonium Recollection. Gonna break from DB for one week or so with this, then make a fresh attempt.
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Been playing MUSHA, such a great game. Really impressive that it can outperform a lot of the systems other great shooters, but came out in 1990!

Not too tough however. I managed to get the 1cc after about 5 tries. Still, loads of fun. Now I just need to bump it up to hard.

Been cutting all that MUSHA with some Thunder Force V, which is surprisingly good! Some of those weapons are excellent!
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Just beat Evaccaneer for the first time
:shock: Holy shit. Congratulations! I'm getting closer and closer to our first encounter. Once my converter for Saturn sticks to PC gets here, I should be set to get to the second loop. Any words of advice for aspiring EVAC DOOM annihilators?
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It is apparently possible to make a game more frustrating than the last loop of Dragon Blaze. I swear Demonic Challenge Ereshkigal is programmed to wall you at least once. Damn Demonic Challenges.
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At Ground Kontrol Arcade in Portland OR, I got first place on the Dragon Blaze cab! I was so proud of myself. :D It was a very special moment because it marked my first important arcade achievement.
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Almost done with Chaos Field.
I keep screwing up in bosses 3-2, 3-3 and 4-3, probably the trickiest of them all to chain.
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Started playing MinishoterRS⊿ and have been appreciating horis a lot more. I love the quirky hidden minigames and ships you can obtain, plus some oddball levels (level 2B!).
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Just beat Evaccaneer for the first time
Holy shit. Congratulations! I'm getting closer and closer to our first encounter. Once my converter for Saturn sticks to PC gets here, I should be set to get to the second loop. Any words of advice for aspiring EVAC DOOM annihilators?
Thanks! I have a new found appreciation for the game having discovered that Stage-5 isn't as impossible as originally appeared when I first started reaching it consistently. Just to be clear, I beat the Stage-5 boss but wasn't even close to meeting the loop requirements (I think it's something like miss+bombs<7).

No useful advice other than to stay aggressive. Getting full lock-on asap was crucial for me, even a second too late on many circumstances would spell disaster.

If you are going for the second loop (no-bomb 1CC), good luck! I'm not sure I have it in me but I'm dying to see what it is like.
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So, did I screw up calling Ketsui Stage-5 boss (1st loop) by the name of Evacanneer? I though the true last boss (2nd loop) was named DOOM?

Also, Siren, didn't you say in your Galuda 1CC thread that Ketsui, Guwange, and Galuda are your 3 1CCs? I'm confused..
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chempop wrote:So, did I screw up calling Ketsui Stage-5 boss (1st loop) by the name of Evacanneer? I though the true last boss (2nd loop) was named DOOM?

Also, Siren, didn't you say in your Galuda 1CC thread that Ketsui, Guwange, and Galuda are your 3 1CCs? I'm confused..
I think he's referring to DOOM. As I understood the Stage 5 boss is "Evacanneer" and the TLB is "Evacanneer DOOM" (spelling probably off). Mind you I can't get past Stage 4 so I could be wrong. :?
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So, did I screw up calling Ketsui Stage-5 boss (1st loop) by the name of Evacanneer? I though the true last boss (2nd loop) was named DOOM?

Also, Siren, didn't you say in your Galuda 1CC thread that Ketsui, Guwange, and Galuda are your 3 1CCs? I'm confused...
No, you were right. I misunderstood you and thought you just beat DOOM. I had no idea that the false last boss was also called Evacanneer.

So no, by no means have I made it to either the tsuujou or ura loops, but I've beaten that pushover fake last boss in Ketsui only once. With well timed bombs he can be quite manageable. DOOM would probably kick my ass at my first go at him. :lol:

BTW, you mention how no bombing+ 1CC= takes you right to the loop with DOOM... what if you miss? How many times is that allowed? IIRC, missing once ruins your eligibility. Though I could be totally wrong.
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