Thread Split: Drakon's Modding

[Drakon]

I edited it out because Voultar complained and unlike skips, Voultar didn't act like a whiny b#tch.

You edit shit because you are trying to hide your bullshit.

I only edited out the parts Voultar complained about, there was no magical cover-up attempt. But hey, I do what people want and I'm still attacked am I right?

[Voultar]

I edited it out because Voultar complained and unlike skips, Voultar didn't act like a whiny b#tch.

It's creepy how skips obsessively stalks me so much that he notices that.

I'm not complaining, Drakon. Nor am I looking for credit or recognition.

What you said was a complete falsehood, and when I presented overwhelming, compelling evidence to the contrary, all of your posts were edited.

I didn't ask you to edit your posts. I merely called you out for being sensationally dishonest.

That's why people have a difficult time believing what you have to say. You stretch things out, and try to turn fiction into fact. As everyone has JUST witnessed.

[Drakon]

We have different opinions about it. I'm fine saying it was 100% you and not arguing any further. I edited it because I don't want to make it look like it wasn't all you. I didn't ask you to remove anything showing that I had first said differently. There was no attempt to hide anything.

[Voultar]

We have different opinions about it. I'm fine saying it was 100% you and not arguing any further. I edited it because I don't want to make it look like it wasn't all you. I didn't ask you to remove anything showing that I had first said differently. There was no attempt to hide anything.

It's not about whether it was 100% me or not. That isn't the point.

The point is; You are entitled to your opinions. However, when they begin to conflict with the truth and are unaligned with reality, that's when you have a problem. That's when and why people start calling you dishonest.

The reason I provided evidence to the contrary wasn't to shame you. It was to make absolutely clear to everyone what the reality was. They can make up their own minds.

[Drakon]

A few pm messages don't show anything close to the whole story of all the work that was done and all the discoveries made along the way. Even if we disagree I don't mind changing it to your opinion because you were decent with me. It was 100% Voultar and I thank him so much.

[Voultar]

A few pm messages don't show anything close to the whole story of all the work that was done and all the discoveries made along the way. Even if we disagree I don't mind changing it to your opinion because you were decent with me. It was 100% Voultar and I thank him so much.

You're probably the most condescending person I've ever met in my life. It was 100% voultar and I thank him so much? Do you believe that pacifies me?

The PM's tell the whole story. I have around 500 more that I don't care to include to further satisfy anyone's curiosity.

Maybe I should just load those up, too.

No, I don't. There's really nothing left to say about that. I think I did a fairly good job of walking you through that considering you didn't know how to do a standard termination on a cable. And all of the elementary diagrams I drew for you. But that's not the point, at all.

[Drakon]

What would have been a better thing for me to say? That I agree with you? I'm trying to get past it all it's really not that big of a deal.

[Voultar]

If you can't reply without being disconcerting or condescending. Don't say anything. It's not helping you, at all.

I haven't lead anyone to believe anything. People will read this and make up their own minds.

[Drakon]

Thanks for the suggestion. I never blamed skips or anyone else. Of course this isn't the whole picture but people will be happy to make their minds up based on anything that's one-sided. I truthfully don't care to argue with you about it.

[Voultar]

Thanks for the suggestion. I never blamed skips or anyone else. Of course this isn't the whole picture but people will be happy to make their minds up based on anything that's one-sided. I truthfully don't care to argue with you about it.

Because there is no argument to be made. Just so you know.

[leonk]

Skips, you wanted to know how much a professionally hand made StarFox 2 cart will cost. Here's a reliable guy who did it right:

http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index ... ic=12317.0

- only $70 including shipping world wide

What I really like about his work (when contrasted to Drakon's pictures earlier):

1) custom made PCB for new memory chip. SMD on SMD - no wires, no glue. Looks like it was factory made.
2) Lockout chip was replaced with new region free one - will work on any SNES system from around the world
3) No extra switches/wires/crystals. As mentioned in the thread: "Overclocking the SuperFX only makes it run faster, not smoother. Save your money and go with the stock 21MHz speed, it's the way Star Fox 2 was intended to work."
4) The seller is offering the programmed memory chip, custom PCB, custom lockout chip as DIY kits for only $35 shipped world wide. Giving back to the modding community.

Hope this helps the side discussion we had here on the best way to reproduce a starfox 2 cart.

[Skips]

Thanks Leon, that information is pretty helpful. I actually had someone ask me about getting one of these the other day too, I will direct them towards this dude. Thanks a ton!

[Drakon]

That's a really cool adapter it looks amazing. I wish there were a way to confirm if those tsop flash chips would work with the much faster version. His stuff looks great, there's no need to bash the overclocked version. Oh wait yes there is a need, you dislike me.

Even though that was completely off topic and could have easily been sent over private message. Leonk posted it here to take away any people from buying my version.

Now that I think about it. Say you solder that on, and want to remove it without desoldering the tsop chip at the same time. That wouldn't be easy.... So if you ever wanted to change the game, or a better version of the rom comes out, that looks like it would be a huge pain. But hey, it looks like it's from a factory!

I personally love and always prefer when something looks like it's from a factory and doesn't use wires, but not if it makes working on it in the future more difficult.

[The_Atomik_Punk!]

...Even though that was completely off topic and could have easily been sent over private message. Leonk posted it here to take away any people from buying my version.

Whoa whoa whoa, slow down there buddy... are you trying to alienate everyone on this forum from you? There's no need for such paranoia towards Leonk's post; the only thing keeping people from buying "your version" is your attitude, and, well, you know, that little issue of your well documented shoddy workmanship/business practices.

[Drakon]

...Even though that was completely off topic and could have easily been sent over private message. Leonk posted it here to take away any people from buying my version.

Whoa whoa whoa, slow down there buddy... are you trying to alienate everyone on this forum from you? There's no need for such paranoia towards Leonk's post; the only thing keeping people from buying "your version" is your attitude, and, well, you know, that little issue of your well documented shoddy workmanship/business practices.

Leonk has been complaining about my work ever since it was posted. He made plenty of unnecessary comments. Oh right, it's okay for him to make comments about me but not vice versa. This isn't paranoia it was done purposely.

Even if I am a little paranoid, I have just cause. Considering how skips and phonedork completely backstabbed me out of the blue. Also considering leonk has been adding unnecessary rudeness to his comments about my work for a long time.

All money I ever generated was put into buying tools, parts, amazing krikzz products, and even donations. I always have given back to the community.

Most people base my "attitude" and "business practices" on very one-sided things posted about me. And that's fine. I'm just pointing out how people in this community go after each other instead of working together. There's no respect for each other.

Of course I'm not trying to alienate everyone. I think you're fine and I thank you for posting nicely. I do have a number of friends from places like this. I apologized in many places to voultar, but it seems he's sensitive. We thought differently about something and instead of him agreeing to disagree he really took it like I'm trying to steal his credit. If he had talked about it privately and made his point I would have agreed with him and changed my post accordingly, without all that mess. But you know, every small disagreement has to be turned into an exaggerated public battle.

I'm going to post the truth even though whenever I do nobody believes me.

Voultar is an amazing person. He knows this stuff way better than me. Voultar showed and taught me so much and I'm really thankful for that.

[The_Atomik_Punk!]

...Even though that was completely off topic and could have easily been sent over private message. Leonk posted it here to take away any people from buying my version.

Whoa whoa whoa, slow down there buddy... are you trying to alienate everyone on this forum from you? There's no need for such paranoia towards Leonk's post; the only thing keeping people from buying "your version" is your attitude, and, well, you know, that little issue of your well documented shoddy workmanship/business practices.

Leonk has been complaining about my work ever since it was posted. He made plenty of unnecessary comments. Oh right, it's okay for him to make comments about me but not vice versa. This isn't paranoia it was done purposely.

All money I ever generated was put into buying tools, parts, amazing krikzz products, and even donations. I always have given back to the community.

Most people base my "attitude" and "business practices" on very one-sided things posted about me. And that's fine. I'm just pointing out how people in this community go after each other instead of working together.

Of course I'm not trying to alienate everyone. I think you're fine and I thank you for posting nicely. I apologized in many places to voultar, but it seems he's sensitive. We thought differently about something and instead of him agreeing to disagree he really took it like I'm trying to steal his credit.

Voultar is an amazing person. He knows this stuff way better than me. Voultar showed and taught me so much and I'm really thankful for that. This isn't sarcasm, it's the honest truth.

Dude, slow your roll.. you just edited your response. Leonk hasn't been complaining about your work, he (along with others) have been trying to help you out by discussing better methods/techniques for you to employ in future modwork. I haven't seen anyone in this thread "go after you", only assist (by God man, look what Voultar did for you in PMs!). It all comes down to how one perceives criticism; you can either use it constructively to better oneself, or you can harden your heart and become bitter. It's entirely possible for adults to disagree with one another on the substance of something, without resorting to personal attacks and becoming disagreeable. Be at peace, brother

[Drakon]

Thanks again for another great post. I wish I bumped into more people like you.

Maybe I don't take criticism the way that you people do. That doesn't mean that I don't take it if you're actually polite and mannerly. That's the sort of change I really want to see happen. Not just towards me, but to everyone.

I think we all want what's best for the community. But we want it in very different ways. I know that my ideas aren't what the majority wants.

I really like the idea of a community where people aren't publicly shaming or insulting one another. I like to see people not treating others like every post they make and everything they do is done with the worst intent possible. This is how I am.

[leonk]

Now that I think about it. Say you solder that on, and want to remove it without desoldering the tsop chip at the same time. That wouldn't be easy.... So if you ever wanted to change the game, or a better version of the rom comes out, that looks like it would be a huge pain. But hey, it looks like it's from a factory!

!?! Please re-read your statement above. I want you to understand why your statement basically shows to everyone how incapable you are when it comes to working with SMD electronics. So rather than try to learn, you just find flaws (that are actually not flaws) and instead stick to what works for you (wires and glue) - a much more time consuming and prone to mistakes way of doing things.

Removing SMD devices is as simple as installing it ***IF*** you have the right equipment and expertise in using it. Your statements show that neither are the case with you.

By your logic, If I try to solder a surface mount Modchip, I will destroy all the chips on the modchip due to soldering of the pads.

Do you see the problem in your statement now?

As a side. I don't know you. I never met you in person. The same can be said of all the modders on this forum. I think you're under the impression that everyone, for some crazy reason, is out to get you. People give you advise, and you reject them. But not only do you reject them, you turn around and lash back. Do you believe there's a great conspiracy out there against you? What have we got to gain if that is the case?

No one has ever learned anything from their successes. Only from their failures. Unless you believe you know everything there is to know, at which point, well.. we can't help you.

[Drakon]

Now that I think about it. Say you solder that on, and want to remove it without desoldering the tsop chip at the same time. That wouldn't be easy.... So if you ever wanted to change the game, or a better version of the rom comes out, that looks like it would be a huge pain. But hey, it looks like it's from a factory!

!?! Please re-read your statement above. I want you to understand why your statement basically shows to everyone how incapable you are when it comes to working with SMD electronics. So rather than try to learn, you just find flaws (that are actually not flaws) and instead stick to what works for you (wires and glue) - a much more time consuming and prone to mistakes way of doing things.

Removing SMD devices is as simple as installing it ***IF*** you have the right equipment and expertise in using it. Your statements show that neither are the case with you.

By your logic, If I try to solder a surface mount Modchip, I will destroy all the chips on the modchip due to soldering of the pads.

Do you see the problem in your statement now?

Thanks for the nice reply I really appreciate it. How would you remove that without also desoldering the tsop chip at the same time? You'd have to heat up all the pads at the same time and the tsop is sandwiched between. So the tsop would be heated to solder melting temperature too. It really looks like an installation where if you removed it the tsop chip would also desolder, and tsop chips can be annoying to solder back on.

The author himself posted that if you screw it up it's really difficult to undo it once it's on there. That lead me to believe, that's it's really difficult to undo it once it's on there.

Where's the advice in your post? Your post is only about how bad I am at things. There's no tips at all. It's hard to learn anything when everyone keeps posting over and over again what's wrong about people's work, instead of posting how to do it right. Do you see my point?

[leonk]

There are multiple solutions in removing SMD components soldered down PCBs. Here are just 2.

#1 - use high temperature Kapton tape on top of the TSOP. Apply flux to the pads. Then, with the smallest nozzle on the hot air station, heat the pads, move around quickly, and only on the outer edge. Due to flux, the pads will be molten long before the TSOP. Kaptop will also keep the heat off the TSOP. Cheap solution. Used it many times.

#2 - more expensive solution - use Chip Quit. YouTube is your friend.

I know you live in Toronto. You can go to SayAl on VicPark and Steeles and purchase supplies for both (I think CQ is $20 per tube). Good enough to fix MANY MANY reproductions.

[Drakon]

There are multiple solutions in removing SMD components soldered down PCBs. Here are just 2.

#1 - use high temperature Kapton tape on top of the TSOP. Apply flux to the pads. Then, with the smallest nozzle on the hot air station, heat the pads, move around quickly, and only on the outer edge. Due to flux, the pads will be molten long before the TSOP. Kaptop will also keep the heat off the TSOP. Cheap solution. Used it many times.

#2 - more expensive solution - use Chip Quit. YouTube is your friend.

I know you live in Toronto. You can go to SayAl on VicPark and Steeles and purchase supplies for both (I think CQ is $20 per tube). Good enough to fix MANY MANY reproductions.

Thank you so much I really appreciate it. That's the sort of posts I like to see instead of telling people how wrong they are. This sort of post helps the community much more than any negative post ever would.

I don't like chipquik that stuff is silly, I think your tape and flux idea makes way more sense. I don't know why you ever thought I wouldn't want to take good advice and therefore it would somehow be a waste of time posting it.

[leonk]

There's one other thing that you need to consider. You can not reprogram the TSOP while it's still soldered down to the adapter. The only reason you'll want to remove the mod is if you want to reprogram the TSOP, right? In which case who cares if both get desoldered?

I would desolder the TSOP, toss it on my SOP to DIP adapter, reprogram it in my programmer, and solder it back down. Then use the soldering iron to correct any welds that might have melted on the PCB adapter. You can also go all out .. remove the TSOP and then adapter. All up to you.

If you use the right tools, and control temperature .. you can do this many times over.

That being said, how often has the StarFox code changed? Reproductions I sold back in 2002 used the same code I put into reproductions I sell in 2016.

[Drakon]

I figured it would be easier soldering the sop adapter to a dip adapter for reprogramming.....oh you're right, tsop burner adapters need the chip to be loose......that's annoying.....

My personal copy of starfox 1 I kept changing bits and pieces of the rom and I reburned it many times. I personally prefer the ability to easily reburn in the future. But if you don't want to then definitely this is a way better solution.

[mikejmoffitt]

You should pay about $5 and get a role of nice kapton tape. It is a great way to secure your work in a non-destructive and removable way. Also look into decent wire-wrapping wire that you can strip easily with your fingers without breaking. That will let you neatly run small signal wires in fixed positions. When you have to run a lot of signals (relocating a cart slot, wiring up a memory chip to a different pinout, etc) correct-length small wires neatly organized will do wonders for making the project look professional and be more reliable.

The heat gun has uses, but desoldering with it is a last-ditch way of doing it.

If you don't have a decent iron already, the Weller WES50 is a great deal and is a great iron. I just picked up a second one I can keep at home for $50.

[leonk]

A fellow AA forum member, and YouTuber I follow just posted a video on how to make a StarFox 2 SNES reproduction using the adapter board I talked about earlier. Said adapter boards are available for other SNES reproductions. It's 2016 people, there's no need to use wires with SNES reproductions. For your viewing pleasure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIkwpwHOoM0

[mikejmoffitt]

Don't worry, he's going to post that one picture of the repro boards at least six more times.

[Skips]

Don't worry, he's going to post that one picture of the repro boards at least six more times.

This made me choke on my coffee, boss had to check if i was alright.

[Drakon]

A fellow AA forum member, and YouTuber I follow just posted a video on how to make a StarFox 2 SNES reproduction using the adapter board I talked about earlier. Said adapter boards are available for other SNES reproductions. It's 2016 people, there's no need to use wires with SNES reproductions. For your viewing pleasure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIkwpwHOoM0

This is completely off topic. The whole point I'm trying to make is that I don't use excessive hot glue. I just received a bunch of random spam messages about that. I still get new strangers spamming me with comments about hot glue and how horrible I am, even though they've never spoken with or worked with me.

I'm not trying to lead people astray with my out of date ways of doing work. I only posted those pictures because it was requested. I never once said "this is how it should be done", but that's exactly how you're acting. Like everyone else you're only focusing on anything negative you can see and you're completely ignoring the point and everything else. You're helping distract people from the point I've been trying to make.

Don't worry, he's going to post that one picture of the repro boards at least six more times.

I posted that picture over and over again to get people to acknowledge that's what my current work looks like instead of ignoring it and only focusing on the worst examples of old work they could find. Which is still happening.

People kept requesting that I show my new work, so I kept posting the same picture I had already shown. It seemed strange that I had posted my new work and still I was being requested to show it by the same people. I got tired of hearing them asking me to post something I had already posted. I felt that posting it many times may finally get them to stop asking for it.

I could take millions of pictures of new work and people would still ignore it. People in this community have shown that they are primarily interested in negative media and positive things come second. Nobody will care about anything positive about me until the negative media is removed. If people weren't like this then I wouldn't be complaining about it. If I stopped receiving useless spam then I wouldn't even post in here.

I want it to be clear I don't need anything positive to be posted about me, I'm not asking for that. I just want the useless negative comments to stop. People really seem to think that if the constant stream of negativity towards me stops then the world will crumble because people believe that I'm a 100% bad person who deserves no better. People treat me this way because people like skips started treating me as if this is the sort of person I am and then many other strangers believed it and followed his example.

Skips and his friends in this community only care about one thing, showing how much better they are than other people at any small thing and ignoring everything else. They strangely get enjoyment from that and they don't care how much harassment people receive from their behaviour. Skips enjoys the harassment I receive and he enjoys seeing me get flooded with useless messages. Skips and his friends believe that I'm pure scum and skips believes that it's impossible he could be completely wrong about me.

I want skips to acknowledge that he enjoys having me receive useless comments and that he enjoys seeing this community flooded with useless comments and media. Skips spends most of his day posting negativity about others. I want skips to admit and that he refuses to believe he's wrong about me, or anything. I want people to see how ignorant and wrong skips is. I want people to see how over-sensitive skips really is. People like skips help fill this community with people who enjoy spamming others with lots of useless messages. Skips helps fill this community with people who actually think that being negative towards others is productive and helpful and that there's no better way to handle themselves when someone else's work isn't up to their own standards.

This is the exact behaviour that skips inspires, because skips acts this way himself all the time. This is skips' idea of an ideal community. Skips was probably publicly made fun of a lot in life, so he thinks this is what's best for society. I'm really sorry that skips was treated this way, it's wrong and skips didn't deserve that.

No good comes out of any "messy mod work" pictures or videos. The only result is it makes a lot of people excessively angry and send a lot of useless hate comments that don't help anyone improve. People post these things because it gets them more attention. People like skips don't care what happens to others as long as they get more attention from being this way. When you act as if talking to a person like they're not complete dirt and that giving them helpful friendly tips and suggestions doesn't work but instead doing your best to publicly humiliate and spread lies about the person as much as possible is the only way to make things better, this just inspires others to do the same.

[yxkalle]

Drakon, you're cute when you're angry.

[Skips]