Puzzle & Dragons

[Jon]

Yeah, it does seem unfairly skewed to "taketh away" in poor cave hermit's case though. Here's hoping you at least manage to roll that Angelit.

I had 5 rolls saved up due to my 100 day login bonus:

Minerva
Mermaid
Red Sonia (!)
Mystic Flame Knight
Sun Quan

[Necronopticous]

Minerva, Sonia, and Sun Quan are some of the best cards in the game. Congrats, man.

[guigui]

I ran some challenge mode dungeons for more magic stones and rolled again.

I was so excited when I got a gold egg, and when it hatched..

...it turned out to be an evolved blue toy dragon.

This game is bullshit.

Last time you farmed challenges to roll, it went bad. Did not you learn the lesson ?

Necro, youre certainly right about Minerva. Your fully skilled-up one helped me a lot. How did you skill her up ? Flampy ?

I have just been defeated by Hera in Starlight Sanctuary, 3.5 millions life is a lot and I cant deal with that yet.

It seems I’m quite close to have a good attackers team as Aisha pointed to me :
Cao-cao chibi - Red Odin - Laila - hurricane volcano dragon - King Flamie - Cao-Cao

x27 damage for everybody when King is active looks good and should allow me to defeat Thursday mythical, hopefully.

[Necronopticous]

Necro, youre certainly right about Minerva. Your fully skilled-up one helped me a lot. How did you skill her up ? Flampy ?

Combination of Flampy and LV99 dupes.

[Jon]

Combination of Flampy and LV99 dupes.

I can only assume you focused on skilling her up before evolving her?

[Aisha]

Skill levels reset when you perform an evolution where the skill changes into something else, as is the case when you evolve Minerva into Awoken Minerva. The level 99 skill-up method only works if the monsters are in their ultimate forms at max-level and have the same IDs.

Ugh, Sun Quan. I need Sun Quan for my Kali team. I have a mini version, but using him will make my team feel crippled.

[szycag]

Mario Puzzle and Dragons kinda felt like Mario DDR, scaled way back for some audience that probably doesn't exist and rather pointless. I wish you could try Puzzle and Dragons Z in that demo, but I wonder what it could really add to what the mobile game nailed down too.

[BrianC]

Mario Puzzle and Dragons kinda felt like Mario DDR, scaled way back for some audience that probably doesn't exist and rather pointless. I wish you could try Puzzle and Dragons Z in that demo, but I wonder what it could really add to what the mobile game nailed down too.

From what I can tell, it's like the Monster Hunter demos where you only choose from presets and don't get to see all the features available. Not saying it isn't toned down, but I'm under the impression the full game has a lot more available, including monster fusion, leveling up, and non-preset teams.

[guigui]

The level 99 skill-up method only works if the monsters are in their ultimate forms at max-level and have the same Ids.

Level 99 skill-up method ? What is that ?

[cave hermit]

Well, I'm now capable of running super king dragon descends!

Using a ripper dragon (to half damage), some keepers of the gold (for tons of health), a friend's healer girl (to make it completely impossible to die due to all the health and the elemental resist) and neptune (for 10x Atk. poison damage that goes through defense), I can easily go through the dungeon!

Finally I'll have something that can supplement the lengthy process of evolving pengdras.

Using the loot from the red super king dungeon I just beat I got my fire wizard to max level; now I just need to get a red keeper on tuesday to evolve it...

Also I still need a mystic mask so I can ult evolve my enchidna and evolve my vampire at some point. Surely now that I can breeze through super king descends I should be able to clear tier 2 Wednesday dungeons...

[Aisha]

Level 99 skill-up method ? What is that ?

It's a very expensive method to guarantee skill-ups; I don't think it's something that most people can take advantage of. Basically, if you feed two identical monsters together, the target monster gets a skill-up. For it to work, both monsters need to be at level 99, and both need to be in the same ultimate-evolved form.

[guigui]

Well well well, the attacker team is good ! Here is mine :

CaoCao (chibi) - Red Odin - Red Odin - Laila - King Flamie - Norn of the past Urd

x9.9 unconditionnal multiplier, lot of health (I can even put Red Odin leader if I want more), 7 row enhances.
I just cleared King Of The Gods with it, Zeus has been one shot. Urd + Cao-Cao is just amazing.
Only thing that I miss is the usual Echidna delay, but I'll live without it. Thursday Mythical here I come !

[Necronopticous]

Well well well, the attacker team is good ! Here is mine :

CaoCao (chibi) - Red Odin - Red Odin - Laila - King Flamie - Norn of the past Urd

x9.9 unconditionnal multiplier, lot of health (I can even put Red Odin leader if I want more), 7 row enhances.
I just cleared King Of The Gods with it, Zeus has been one shot. Urd + Cao-Cao is just amazing.
Only thing that I miss is the usual Echidna delay, but I'll live without it. Thursday Mythical here I come !

Very nice, man! One thing I have discovered is that Echidna is so good that she is sometimes actually worth putting on a team which she has absolutely no synergy with, even in the context of a very difficult dungeon. Her active skill and RCU sometimes completely eclipse having an attacking member in one slot--especially if she is heavily plussed.

[Aisha]

Well well well, the attacker team is good ! Here is mine :

CaoCao (chibi) - Red Odin - Red Odin - Laila - King Flamie - Norn of the past Urd

x9.9 unconditionnal multiplier, lot of health (I can even put Red Odin leader if I want more), 7 row enhances.
I just cleared King Of The Gods with it, Zeus has been one shot. Urd + Cao-Cao is just amazing.
Only thing that I miss is the usual Echidna delay, but I'll live without it. Thursday Mythical here I come !

I'm glad to read that it's working out for you! I like the adjustment you've made: cao cao x Urd instead of Red Odin x Red Odin. You might not need Echidna for Thursday Mythical, but she's a good option to slot in when needed.

[cave hermit]

Well I can now successfully run the mid tier mask dungeon, but despite running it who knows how many times today, I haven't seen a single Mystic mask drop :/

[cave hermit]

I'm not really sure where to go with my light-dark devil team (it's more of a stop-gap than anything else for the time being), and I don't forsee my Red Guan Yu team going anywhere in the near future given my low team cost capacity and poor luck with the REM. So right now I'm working on a fire attacker team myself with Leilan leading it:

Right now my Leilan is waiting on an Angelit to ult-evolve, and my subs consist of Inferno Sorcerer Laila, an Echidna (still waiting on a mystic mask), an Elemental of Levity Sylph, and a Nanto Seiken Master shin (the last two are really just there to fulfill the 3.5 attack multiplier conditions). I'm probably going to swap out Shin for a King Flambie after ult-evolving Leilan and getting the light subtype, although I'm not sure what to replace Sylph with. I do have a Marine Rider Robin, but I don't have the Mystical-tier evo masks needed for his ult-evolve, so I'm not really sure about him...

I did get a flame golem to drop from the fire keeper dungeon yesterday; would it be crazy to use my 3 gold keepers to ult evolve it and put it on my attacker team for a HP boost? (actually never mind, I forgot I still needed at least one green monster...)

[guigui]

Well I can now successfully run the mid tier mask dungeon, but despite running it who knows how many times today, I haven't seen a single Mystic mask drop :/

I had plenty of those to drop, but not in the wednesday dungeon. What I did is never use my Pal Points until evo carnival showed up and rolled them all out here.
Also, some higher tier dungeon (ocean of heaven) drop mystic mask quite regularly and are good for farming.
Finally, keep in mind that one week out of three, the weekday dungeons do not have the x2 drop bonus, and this week is precisely the one !

I remember being quite stuck at about the same point as you, rank ~90.
What helped me a lot is to run coin weekend dungeon tricolor : master level (the one at 25 stamina). It only has R-G-B orbs and allows for enormous combo/damage, gives lot of coins and xp. I cleared them with a red team, helped by so precious Urd friends (dont hesistate to ask them as frind when you see them). Just be carefull since the last floor has a blue carbuncle that may cause trouble, bringing a hybrid ogre that does 70000 damage helps.

Finally, ranking up and getting lotta coins from this dungeon is good for playing coin dungeons (the ones you buy in the shop) and getting those needed material, especially dragon plants. With this method, I can now create about 60 evolved pengdras a week.

[guigui]

I cleared Thursday Mythical, dedicated to Aisha as promised !
Only cleared it two times out of four tries though. Twice I did not get those red orbs in time.

Also, that attacker team is not that easy to handle. I cant clear King of the God again, killed by the 9th floor dragon. I think I was lucky the first time, but cant do it again.

[Jon]

Congrats guigui. Still lacking the team synergy required to confidently tackle Thursday's mythical. I should be ready a week from now...I hope.

[guigui]

Thanks jon. I'm not sure I have you as friend, we are quite close in rank though. My ID is 318 151 325, guigui-ln in game.

So I'm progressing quite rapidly through normal and technical dungeon with monster attacker team.
But now I'm stuck in technical : Ancient Dragons' Mystic Realm, floor Shining Island is tricolor with NO RED ! How the heck am I supposed to deal 5 millions damage to the boss without my double Red Odin + Urd + Cao, this is no fun !
Guess I'll have to make a team especially for this one...

[Aisha]

You'll have to rely on damage from sub-attributes to get through the normal floors, and use your orb changers to create fire orbs for the bosses.

That dungeon might be tough, but you can try:

-Floors 1~4: The most important thing here is to stall to get your active skills ready before Floor 5. For damage, match dark and water orbs, since you'll have to rely on the sub-attributes of your Red Odins and Urd. You'll need to be careful not to kill things too quickly, but sometimes you can't help it.
-Floor 5: Use actives to create fire orbs and one-shot. Hopefully you don't need King Flamie for this.
-Floor 6~8: You need to stall to get your actives back up.
-Floor 9: Laila and Cao Cao. Pray for a one-shot.*
-Floor 10: Use both Red Odins. Then use Urd and King Flamie. Hopefully that will one-shot.*

*You might have to swap the actives around for Floors 9 and 10. If there aren't many water orbs on Floor 9, then you'll probably have to use Urd and save Cao Cao, Laila, and King Flamie for Floor 10.

One weakness of Attacker teams is low-ish RCV (Urd helps though), so they aren't as great at stalling.

But yeah, eventually you'll want to make other teams -- not only to meet various dungeon requirements, but sometimes certain teams are at huge disadvantages against the dungeon's mechanics. You have a number of good leaders in DQXQ, Verdandi, and to a lesser extent, Nephthys, so you just have to find a way to build teams around them.

[guigui]

As always Aisha, thanks for your help. I did not even dare to think about going to Shining Island with my red team. Your strategy might work though !
Plus, at floor 5 & 9, I'd say Laila alone is enough to one-shot everybody, provided I have some other orbs to combo the line up, which will not be too hard in a tricolor dungeon.
What I fear the most is stalling, as you said I dont have any RCV and those monsters hit hard. Best bet is to get a mask to stall on.

I also thought about a green team :
Verdandi - Liu Bei - Alraune - God Canopus - Artemis - Verdandi

- Alraune for autoheal when stalling.
- Verdandi + Liu Bei has the same effect than Urd + Cao Cao, but green.
- Verdandi + Artemis is a full green board, enhanced by Canopus.

I miss the lines boosts though, not sure it could deal the 5 millions required at floor 10.

EDIT : green team worked ! That was very very close :
- got a mask on floor 8 to refill all actives
- lilith at floor 9 was two shot with regular attack.
- dragon at floor 10 took Verdandi + Liu Bei for about half damage, did not kill me with its boost attack, and took Verdandi + Artemis + Canopus for the other half damage, pfiou.

[Aisha]

My Athena team has the same problem. It can do silly amounts of damage but it can't heal for shit, so I can't use it for anything that requires intense stalling.

I think Verdandi is one of the best leads in the game right now. I'd love to pull her from the REM myself. Her teams thrive on TPA awakenings. Unlike row awakenings, TPA awakenings are not shared by the party, so it's important that each sub has its own. Looking at your box again, I'd start with something like:

Verdandi - Artemis - Wolf Hero, Ignis Cu Chulainn - 5 Mechdragon Fusion, God Canopus - X - Verdandi

Unfortunately Wolf Hero, Ignis Cu Chulainn requires a Gold Keeper, but he's definitely a great sub for Verdandi. I'd seriously consider using two Wolf Hero, Ignis Cu Chulainns.

[guigui]

Yes, that Wolf Hero fully farmable looks like a good card indeed. I actually have 3 Keeper of Gold sitting in my box because of evo carnival luck.

[cave hermit]

Well, today is my 100th day since starting PAD (coincidentally I hit rank 100 yesterday)! I got 10 free magic stones as a gift, so now I have enought for 5 rolls next time godfest comes around. To be honest though I'm not even sure what gods I should be aiming to get, so...

[guigui]

Well, today is my 100th day since starting PAD (coincidentally I hit rank 100 yesterday)! I got 10 free magic stones as a gift, so now I have enought for 5 rolls next time godfest comes around. To be honest though I'm not even sure what gods I should be aiming to get, so...

Maybe you could post your box here, Aisha is always of great help , PADHerder is your friend.
Last time I rolled a lot during Godfest, I had good luck, wish you the same.
Also, look at which gos (besides the usual Godfest only ones) are available and if you have interests in them. If not, maybe wait for the next fest.

[Jon]

It looks like we have Hero series along with Japanese God 2 starting this Friday. Here's hoping for Pandora's for everyone.

[BrianC]

I'm still fairly early on, but I just made it past the tower of giants. Thanks for the tips. They were a huge help. I have a Red Sonia, though I can't use her on a full team yet. I'll be playing on my iPad 1 as long as it's still available, but I heard it might cease to be available soon.

[cave hermit]

I decided to fuse two +36 monsters into my Leilan (unfortunately at two separate times): sadly my chibi lu-bu devil team is still managing to consistently outperform my Leilan team.

I'm actually considering ult evolving Leilan to her grass subtype form for the time being and then reversing it once I get an angelit for the other ult-evo, but I'm not sure if it's worth it...

[Aisha]

I think that's fine. That's what I ended up doing with my Lilith: I evolved her into her D/D form while waiting for an Angelit. Leilan's R/G form has a leader skill that is easier to activate and conveniently provides wood damage, not to mention having better stats all-around. The evolution materials aren't really rare or anything so eventually reverting back is no big loss.