Death Smiles: Countdown to North America Invasion

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Elixir wrote:WEWY's translation is pretty much identical.
WEWY?
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Domino wrote:
Elixir wrote:WEWY's translation is pretty much identical.
WEWY?
The World Ends With You, I suspect.

Also, the badness amused me, so oh well.
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Domino wrote:Guys this is a STG, not a RPG. I don't see why people are up and arms about this.
I don't get why valid criticism is automatically seen as being up in arms. It's a decision they made. It's a decision some of us dislike and disagree with. We're merely expressing our thoughts on the matter and how big an impact is had on our personal decisions.

It's not like anybody is saying storm Aksys or boycott the game or anything and it's certainly not like we expect anything to change.
Vyxx wrote:Still, if this keeps you from making the purchase then you probably don't play Shmups for the right reasons
What if you already own the JP version and are interested in the localization because you want to understand the plot? I know gameplay is key, but some people have other motivations for purchasing the localization.
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njiska wrote:I don't get why valid criticism is automatically seen as being up in arms. It's a decision they made. It's a decision some of us dislike and disagree with. We're merely expressing our thoughts on the matter and how big an impact is had on our personal decisions.

It's not like anybody is saying storm Aksys or boycott the game or anything and it's certainly not like we expect anything to change.
This. Please read this and understand. At least realize that the people who are actually complaining here are probably the people who are going to buy this day one, with the exception of those who already had the Japanese version from the start (i.e. everyone that matters)

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This has increased my character love for Follett tenfold. The only thing better than an ample-chested 14 year old maid with a pet dragon is an ample-chested 14 year old maid with a pet dragon and a sexy French accent. Oui oui! :twisted:
Kollision wrote: 2. What's with this gripe from the majority of US gamers seeing loli-based art design as pervert stuff? I don't fucking get it, jeez.
All Americans are PAEDOPHILES and cannot help but have sexual stirrings when looking at a child or representation of one. Additionally, all Americans are FILTHY CHRISTIAN SCUM who subscribe to Jesus' philosophy that, in the wake of temptation, they must excise the temptation from their life. Upon seeing Casper, the average American is unable to control the flow of blood to his loins YET FEELS an intense moralistic revulsion at these feelings of warmth. However, since all Americans are FUCKING PUSSIES and afraid to cut out their eyes (the real source of the temptation), they seek to destroy all artistic representations of children. So what the American soul exhibits is a classic combination of degeneracy, moralism, and cowardice.
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I already got the jp version so other than the nice faceplate I was sort of looking forward to the translation of the story/ending text. While I despise phonetic text when used to an exaggerated level, I can understand it since its marketed to Americans and we're what the poster above me wrote and a bunch of unimaginative twats apparently. So that's fine doesn't phase me, but to go the Working Designs route and completely change the original script to fit the phonetic transition of all things is just sheer lunacy. Unless Cave held them at gun point I don't know what Aksys was thinking.
Elixir wrote:Yeah it was Cave's English associate's suggestion. The problem is that none of the dialogue is translated, it's completely changed. They don't say any of that crap in the original.So yeah, Aksys is pretty much confirmed to be fucking retarded.
The thing about suggestions, when dealing with a company whom you are trying to build a level of trust with to make possible further acquisitions in future negotiations go smoother. Suggestions can quickly become somewhat weighted or misinterpreted. Like what we have ended up with, Aksys really dropped the ball here imo. I'm not angry with them as perhaps the uninitiated as earlier stated might enjoy the changes? Just disappointed in how Aksys decided to handle this. Oh well I'll snag the faceplate, sell the game to my friend for $30 and move on. Hope it sells well and that Aksys gets a clue for the next game.
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"Mon chéri" or "ma chérie". There is no "ma chéri". I do not agree with the direction of the "translation" but Aksys should at the least uphold a minimum level of grammatical correctness where possible. Professionalism and pride in a job well done, for what it is worth here.
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"Hi Van, is that your sword or are you just happy to see me?" - First NPC conversation in Cosmic Fantasy 2

While one could argue the Deathsmiles translation is bad, it isn't Working-Designs-bad.
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AraraSPAMWitch wrote:Upon seeing Casper, the average American is unable to control the flow of blood to his loins YET FEELS an intense moralistic revulsion at these feelings of warmth.
You show me a man who can resist Casper and I'll show you a man in his grave.
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It's sad to think I'm just as tall as these lolis at 5'2".

The translation bit I'm not too happy about, just as long as I get the gist of it I think it'll be alright.
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Domino wrote:Guys this is a STG, not a RPG. I don't see why people are up and arms about this.
Well for folks that already own the game, the only reasons to buy it were to 1) get a faceplate, 2) see English text vs. the Japanese, or 3) throw some money at a Western publisher that's willing to bring in a shump.

I don't care so much about 1.. and 3 just seems misguided. I'll buy stuff that I'm going to enjoy or that I need and that's about it.

I went ahead and canceled my preorder because the text seems so silly. I won't use the faceplate and I'd prefer to just play what I've already got. I'm not running around with a torch and pitchfork, as I don't really care all that much anyways.
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Vyxx wrote:Still, if this keeps you from making the purchase then you probably don't play Shmups for the right reasons :roll:
Don't get me wrong, I have 2 copy of the game already (regular and LE) and I was going to buy 2 copy of the US version to support US shmups but damn, I just can't get over it.
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MrPopo wrote: You show me a man who can resist Casper and I'll show you a man in his grave.
Not all men are pedofiles... a lot of us don't get off on ink, either.
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Seriously, are some of you buying a copy of this to see what the text says?!?! ...good God, that's pathetic.
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durango76 wrote:Seriously, are some of you buying a copy of this to see what the text says?!?! ...good God, that's pathetic.
That's the only reason I'd buy it, since I already have the import.
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AraraSPAMWitch wrote:
Kollision wrote: 2. What's with this gripe from the majority of US gamers seeing loli-based art design as pervert stuff? I don't fucking get it, jeez.
All Americans are PAEDOPHILES and cannot help but have sexual stirrings when looking at a child or representation of one. Additionally, all Americans are FILTHY CHRISTIAN SCUM who subscribe to Jesus' philosophy that, in the wake of temptation, they must excise the temptation from their life. Upon seeing Casper, the average American is unable to control the flow of blood to his loins YET FEELS an intense moralistic revulsion at these feelings of warmth. However, since all Americans are FUCKING PUSSIES and afraid to cut out their eyes (the real source of the temptation), they seek to destroy all artistic representations of children. So what the American soul exhibits is a classic combination of degeneracy, moralism, and cowardice.
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AraraSPAMWitch wrote:All Americans are PAEDOPHILES and cannot help but have sexual stirrings when looking at a child or representation of one. Additionally, all Americans are FILTHY CHRISTIAN SCUM who subscribe to Jesus' philosophy that, in the wake of temptation, they must excise the temptation from their life. Upon seeing Casper, the average American is unable to control the flow of blood to his loins YET FEELS an intense moralistic revulsion at these feelings of warmth. However, since all Americans are FUCKING PUSSIES and afraid to cut out their eyes (the real source of the temptation), they seek to destroy all artistic representations of children. So what the American soul exhibits is a classic combination of degeneracy, moralism, and cowardice.
Come on now do you really had to say something this offensive?
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BIL wrote:Dear Aksys, please make Jitterbug a cockney (if you haven't already). "AT'S A RIGHT LOAD A CUNT INNIT"
Haha, damn it, now I have to disregard anything he says during the boss fight and just go with that :lol:
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MrPopo wrote: That's the only reason I'd buy it, since I already have the import.

I'll tell you what you're missing in the story: absolutely nothing.
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Hey Gaijin,
I love that actor. Even in movies like Alvin and the chipmonks. he´s a very talented comedy actor.
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TYRANNOSATAN IS MOST DISPLEASED HIS LOCALIZATION TEXT IS CHANGED FROM "GAWAAAAAHR!!" TO "ROWRRRRR!!!" TO SERVE AN SOUTHEASTERN HELL DIALECT FROM WHICH CAVE SAYS HE IS ORIGINS!!
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accurately sums up the last 3 pages
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Jesus. 4+ pages about the dialogue translation? Really?

Still looking forward to this. :mrgreen:
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subcons wrote:Jesus. 4+ pages about the dialogue translation? Really?
You don't understand, they ruined the best part of the game!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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the only part, as far as I'm concerned

they have INSULTED THE FRENCH LANGUAGE AND THEY MUST PAY
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I honestly can not understand why people are complaining about the fake accents, let alone cancel there preorders over it. Well, I have never understood half (all?) of the stupid and pointless arguments people make up to bash a game.
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And I've never understood why people who've clearly not bothered reading posts properly decide to respond to them.
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I only play shmups that are comparable to Finnegan's Wake in dialogue.
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CrimsonDX wrote:I honestly can not understand why people are complaining about the fake accents, let alone cancel there preorders over it. Well, I have never understood half (all?) of the stupid and pointless arguments people make up to bash a game.
+1 on this.

Deathsmiles is a fuckin' shmup, goddamit. For what it's worth, dialogue could be entirely cut so that I could gain some extra seconds stolen by this damn dialogue thing. And accents?!?!? Give me a break.
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I'd like to know how complaining about the complaining is even remotely constructive. Clearly some people care about some aspects of the game more than others, and their preferences don't affect those of others in any remote fashion.

Honestly, someone should just lock the thread because this is going nowhere and is continuing to go nowhere. But that's just my opinion.
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