New Neo-Geo shmup -- Last Hope [also for DC]

genetik · Post by **genetik** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:20 pm

ROBOTRON wrote:Those of you thinking of buying this game, here is the way the standard version was shipped:

(play asia) sticker
jewel case
insert

Hmm, wasn't there a spine card that came with it?

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:59 pm

genetik wrote:
Hmm, wasn't there a spine card that came with it?

Yes...forgot to include it.

bVork · Post by **bVork** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:59 pm

Well, I was wrong about the L+R thing. Wouldn't it have been nice to have some indication that the triggers were supported?

My other complaints remain.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:32 pm

bVork wrote:Well, I was wrong about the L+R thing. Wouldn't it have been nice to have some indication that the triggers were supported?

Um, it says so in the manual...

angrycoder · Post by **angrycoder** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:47 pm

After spending 2 hours with the game, I can't really recommend buying unless you have already played every other Hori in existence. The gameplay is totally generic. For me, the bullets are even harder to discern from shrapnel and scenery than they are in garegga. The graphics look muddy even via RGB on my commodore 1084s. The only good thing I can really say about it is that the music is nice.

Honestly, unless you have played and mastered Border Down, Gradius V, Gradius Gaiden, Rtype delta, thunderforce 3 - 5, einhander, Plustar, and BLazing Lasers, you really have no business buying this game.

Hell, you'd be better off grabbing a couple of Dojin PC Horis from PaletWeb for the same price. Air Rade Air, Gundemonium, and Angeraze all spring to mind.

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:42 am

angrycoder wrote:...For me, the bullets are even harder to discern from shrapnel and scenery than they are in garegga.

Thats the same problem I had.

lol...I'm sucking at this game. I've only reached stage 2 in 3 days of play. I got so frustrated I recorded my game to look back and find out why my ship would blow up for no apparent reason. Even in slow motion, I can't understand why I was destroyed.

When you shoot and kill a certain enemy, the ship explodes into these little butterfly things...even after dodging and killing them I would just blow up if I stayed at the top of the screen. The only way I got past that checkpoint was to stay underwater. There are no obstacles above water yet my ship exploded.

oh well.

Stage two music IS DA BOMB when played through a really good strereo system. I love it. I regret not buying the OST special version.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:45 am

ROBOTRON wrote: There are no obstacles above water yet my ship exploded.

haha, funniest thing I've read all day.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:57 am

And cue BIG bursting in here and busting people's chops in 3, 2, 1....

Blade · Post by **Blade** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:37 am

Kind of a taboo question but...what's the chance Last Hope works on Kawaks?

Post by **Dave_K.** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:20 am

Blade wrote:Kind of a taboo question but...what's the chance Last Hope works on Kawaks?

Considering the developers of Last Hope are reading and responding in this thread, I could think of a couple other words other than taboo.

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:15 am

twe wrote:
ROBOTRON wrote: There are no obstacles above water yet my ship exploded.

haha, funniest thing I've read all day.

har, har.

I was trying to upload a video to youtube to show you what I was talking about, but I guess the file was too big or something...even after 30 mins. it was still uploading so I stopped it.

Blade · Post by **Blade** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:12 am

Dave_K. wrote:
Blade wrote:Kind of a taboo question but...what's the chance Last Hope works on Kawaks?
Considering the developers of Last Hope are reading and responding in this thread, I could think of a couple other words other than taboo.

Oops....

boagman · Post by **boagman** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:17 am

ROBOTRON wrote:I was trying to upload a video to youtube to show you what I was talking about, but I guess the file was too big or something...even after 30 mins. it was still uploading so I stopped it.

Save this for me. I want to see it. Really.

KBZ · Post by **KBZ** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:49 am

CIT wrote:
bVork wrote:Well, I was wrong about the L+R thing. Wouldn't it have been nice to have some indication that the triggers were supported?

Um, it says so in the manual...

a little birdie told me his version of the game didn't come with a manual...

tweet tweet

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:26 am

Be nice... didn't CIT say somewhere back that the manual was all in Japanese? Maybe that's the reason ;)

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:10 am

iatneH wrote:Be nice... didn't CIT say somewhere back that the manual was all in Japanese? Maybe that's the reason

Somehow, I doubt it

These days a game isn't out for 24hrs before it's uploaded to some site on the Internet. I remember a stink or two on OCR because Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance was able to be downloaded mere hours after it was released in the US, and some folks there were bragging about DLing it.

DavidHolliss · Post by **DavidHolliss** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:17 am

There are videos of the first three stages here

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showpost. ... count=1375

(from Neo-Geo version), file sizes are around 220mb per stage though.

Still worth downloading though

Was thinking about starting a hi-score thread here, but don't know if there is enough interest.

hermosaguy · Post by **hermosaguy** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:32 am

Dave_K. wrote:
Blade wrote:Kind of a taboo question but...what's the chance Last Hope works on Kawaks?
Considering the developers of Last Hope are reading and responding in this thread, I could think of a couple other words other than taboo.

Lets hope they are taking notes...

qatmix · Post by **qatmix** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:31 pm

Again, not had much freetime to play it since it arrived last week, but Boy is it hard! My initial impressions is that its a game that needed a little more freedom in the players choice throughout the level. After about 40mins I managed to get to the 1st level boss (on Dreamcast normal) and then Im shootign somethign which doesnt seem to flash.. So I have no Idea whats going on..

Also the backgrounds seem very busy at times and they hide the enemy bullets.

However, I am enjoying it and I dont regret buying the game as its only a budget price (for the UK it equals approx £20)

The Music is fantastic BTW.

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:42 pm

boagman wrote:
ROBOTRON wrote:I was trying to upload a video to youtube to show you what I was talking about, but I guess the file was too big or something...even after 30 mins. it was still uploading so I stopped it.
Save this for me. I want to see it. Really.

not to worry...lemme know when you are available and we'll both kick this game's butt.

DavidHolliss · Post by **DavidHolliss** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:19 pm

ROBOTRON wrote:I was trying to upload a video to youtube to show you what I was talking about, but I guess the file was too big or something...even after 30 mins. it was still uploading so I stopped it.

Have you tried to another site like www.putfile.com ? prehaps the file is too big in size.

Meant to add to my post earlier, that last week I compressed those videos on neo-geo.com to about 22mb each, .mp4 format for viewing either on a PSP or on a PC with VLC player or similar, links:

Last Hope stage 1 http://putstuff.putfile.com/43370/3457644

Last Hope stage 2 http://putstuff.putfile.com/43373/3926024

Last Hope stage 3 http://putstuff.putfile.com/43376/7547492

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:19 pm

DavidHolliss wrote:
ROBOTRON wrote:I was trying to upload a video to youtube to show you what I was talking about, but I guess the file was too big or something...even after 30 mins. it was still uploading so I stopped it.
Have you tried to another site like www.putfile.com ? prehaps the file is too big in size.

Meant to add to my post earlier, that last week I compressed those videos on neo-geo.com to about 22mb each, .mp4 format for viewing either on a PSP or on a PC with VLC player or similar, links:

Last Hope stage 1 http://putstuff.putfile.com/43370/3457644

Last Hope stage 2 http://putstuff.putfile.com/43373/3926024

Last Hope stage 3 http://putstuff.putfile.com/43376/7547492

If you want to thank the guy who orginaly uploaded those videos, thank Fakk2 at the Neo-Geo forums.

yojo! · Post by **yojo!** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:02 pm

People that think that this game is too hard should really revisit their classics (i.e. Rtype II). Quite frankly I found level 1 to be quite easy to go through once I learned the correct path. I play the dreamcast mode on normal setting.

hermosaguy · Post by **hermosaguy** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:08 pm

yojo! wrote:People that think that this game is too hard should really revisit their classics (i.e. Rtype II). Quite frankly I found level 1 to be quite easy to go through once I learned the correct path. I play the dreamcast mode on normal setting.

You are right, level 1 isnt the worst and level 2 takes some practice and repetition of testing paths. I cant get past the level 2 boss for the life of me though.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:02 pm

Wouldn't it have been nice to have some indication that the triggers were supported?

do you need help to pee also?

neoalphazero · Post by **neoalphazero** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:23 am

Watched the stage 3 video. The part with the Earth in the backdrop and enemy spitting pods coming from the back is a direct rip from Raxanyber 2 for the PCE CD.

Apparently they just didn't look to R-Type/Pulstar for sickeningly hard shmups.

*-neo

SkylineR32 · Post by **SkylineR32** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:29 am

Well, my DC copy just arrived and I've enjoyed the 15 minutes I've had with it so far. It feels like a solid game compared to most other DC Homebrews I've played.

MasterN8 · Post by **MasterN8** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:53 am

Hey guys, just got my DC copy today, so I popped it in. Two questions:

1) What are those orbs for? I notice there is a HUD indication of how many I have, but what do I do with them? Maybe they're just for end-of-level bonus?

2) After the game over screen, there is a stat screen. Does anyone know what constitutes "dodging" a bullet?

Thanks,
n8

Skyline · Post by **Skyline** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:39 am

Play-Asia wrote:We regret the release date of this limited version is still not confirmed
at the moment. If we have any news, we will update our website.

Guess I'm still waiting.

Jesus, it's like Trizeal all over again. >_<

At any rate, a friend of mine also picked this up, and the first thing I have to say is FUCK the mid-stage checkpoint on Stage 1.

EDIT: Why the hell does T come before S when you cycle through the letters to enter your initials?

DavidHolliss · Post by **DavidHolliss** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:12 am

Fighter17 wrote:If you want to thank the guy who orginaly uploaded those videos, thank Fakk2 at the Neo-Geo forums.

Your quite right, full credit goes to Fakk2 for the videos.

Spent a couple of hours playing this last night, contrary to the above I found Level 1 quite difficult on normal, it wouldn't be half as difficult if the final checkpoint was at the boss, not a minute before you reach him!

Level's two and three look nicer graphically than one.

Overall a nice game, though overly tough in places imo.

One question though; what's the multiplyer to the right of your score for ?

MasterN8 wrote:2) After the game over screen, there is a stat screen. Does anyone know what constitutes "dodging" a bullet?

Thanks,
n8

Think this is the number of bullets that have hit your shield orb thingy - of course I could be completely wrong.

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New Neo-Geo shmup -- Last Hope [also for DC]

A couple of questions about Last Hope (DC)