HD Box Pro: cheap (and good) alternative to the XRGB-3

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^^What kind of PSU are you using with it? I noticed cheap PSUs sometimes do that with some scaling devices.
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The type of PSU this unit uses is a 5v, but I tested another psu to see what the difference was and I'm thinking it's something to do with the input range. Mine is 100-250v. The other I tried was 120v which was causing my picture to wave like crazy.
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Hi I am new to this and lately I've been looking for answers that would talk about the ps3. I just wana ask, will the HD Box Pro work perfectly with the ps3 without any problems? I have a 22'' LCD Non-HDCP Monitor with 1366x768 Native Resolution and supports 16:9 ratio. I am planning to buy the HD Box Pro and connect it with my ps3 through a component cable (YPbPr), does any one know if that is a good idea, will I be able to play my ps3 perfectly with the HD Box Pro in 720p? Anyone please reply as soon as possible, I need to decide wether to buy this or not. Thanks
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It should work and I'm sure it would do a fine job, however if you are expecting to get 1366x768 from the HD Box Pro you should be aware that it does not out put that resolution.

http://www.hdboxpro.com/eng/spec.htm
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jsalvador wrote:Hi I am new to this and lately I've been looking for answers that would talk about the ps3. I just wana ask, will the HD Box Pro work perfectly with the ps3 without any problems? I have a 22'' LCD Non-HDCP Monitor with 1366x768 Native Resolution and supports 16:9 ratio. I am planning to buy the HD Box Pro and connect it with my ps3 through a component cable (YPbPr), does any one know if that is a good idea, will I be able to play my ps3 perfectly with the HD Box Pro in 720p? Anyone please reply as soon as possible, I need to decide wether to buy this or not. Thanks
why not just use hdmi?if your monitor doesnt have port there's hdmi to dvi cables.
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L0YD wrote:
jsalvador wrote:Hi I am new to this and lately I've been looking for answers that would talk about the ps3. I just wana ask, will the HD Box Pro work perfectly with the ps3 without any problems? I have a 22'' LCD Non-HDCP Monitor with 1366x768 Native Resolution and supports 16:9 ratio. I am planning to buy the HD Box Pro and connect it with my ps3 through a component cable (YPbPr), does any one know if that is a good idea, will I be able to play my ps3 perfectly with the HD Box Pro in 720p? Anyone please reply as soon as possible, I need to decide wether to buy this or not. Thanks
why not just use hdmi?if your monitor doesnt have port there's hdmi to dvi cables.
Read "Non-HDCP Monitor" bit and you know why.
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Hey all,

I've been lurking for some time now, and have read all 11 pages of this thread. I just wanted to get some advice and to speak to someone with similar experience.

I am thinking of buying a HD Box Pro.

I own a CSY2100 clone (it's a CVS287), and a PAL Samsung 50" LCD HDTV (I own another 32" PAL Electroview LCD TV), and a PAL Sega Mega Drive 1 (with region and 50/60hz mod).

The problem is: there is no video when I connect the Sega to the CSY2100 clone and to the 32" LCD TV under 50/60hz. I get a black screen with "mode unsupported" or "invalid signal" on the TV. I believe this is because the CSY2100 outputs 240p from the RGB SCART signal, and these HDTV LCD TV's can't do anything with it and won't display it.

The Samsung however DOES display the video but only when the Sega is in 50hz mode, not in 60hz mod. When in 60hz mode the symptoms are as above - no display and a error message.

Very strange. What I want to know is - has anyone here had success with plugging in a CSY2100 into the HD Box Pro (via component cable) and outputting the VGA into a LCD TV? Is the RGB SCART signal preserved or is the quality decreased? I'm just not in the mood to waste more money to try this out. Thanks again guys!
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Monoprice has a HDBox clone! http://tinyurl.com/25758ft
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SGGG2 wrote:Monoprice has a HDBox clone! http://tinyurl.com/25758ft
thats the Lenkeng vgabox ^^ http://www.lenkeng.net/Html/Product/com ... erter.html
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Which itself appears to be a clone of the HD Box Pro, no? Any functional differences? Anybody opened one to compare?
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I would like to know if there's a way to find wich firmware the HDBox Pro is running ? i want to order one unit on ebay (actually 32Euros FDpin) but i dont want to be "dissapointed" if the box is running the new firmware (so, no more 640*480)
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With all the clones I'm rather sure that they're all running the first firmware available (with 640x480p output and motion detection setting for better 240p handling).
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Have the recommendations changed in the past few months? I need one for a tri-sync monitor that does 640x480. The Monoprice box looks decent.
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Hello,

Has anyone tried the LKV7600 or re-branded model from Monoprice? My main concern [besides the scrolling line of death] is using it on 1920x1080 monitors as it supports 1920x1200. Would I select the next lower resolution and let the monitor do the rest? (or choose not to scale on the monitor)

I've emailed monoprice and Lenkeng and neither has really provided an answer. Mono states that the aspect ratio is passed through and you can't change it on the OSD. Lenkeng ignored my question and suggested I buy one off ebay/amazon as they are the factory and only deal with resellers.

Ultimately the goal is to attach my Wii (possibly other consoles down the road) to my monitors and get a better picture than my current composite-to-LCD connection. (one monitor natively supports composite so it's good enough to work, but the picture is poor)

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Dont worry about upscaling to 1080... Just set the output of the scaler to 480p for your requirements. Your TV can perform the scale to it's native res.
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Hi there I ordered the hdbox pro from the official website and it came with 640X480p and also 1920X1080p in case anyone is wondering.
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Also for note I received the Monoprice LKV-7600 on Friday and it worked perfectly. It supports 640x480 up to 1920x1200 and basically everything looked good. (tons better than my composite cable :P )

It looked perfectly clear in most situations with no scrolling line of doom. There was only one particular loading screen in 007 Goldeneye that seemed a little odd.
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wildchild22 wrote:Hi there I ordered the hdbox pro from the official website and it came with 640X480p and also 1920X1080p in case anyone is wondering.
Does your model do 1920x1080 or does it read 1920x1200? I wonder if they switched up their firmware options? Do you think they would re-flash a box for some one or send the firmware to do it?
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I contacted them when I got mine and they offered to replace the firmware but I had to pay the postage costs of sending the unit to them. I don't know if they can send the firmware to you, try to contact them directly.
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My hdboxpro has 1920X1080p and 1920X1200p
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Well crap. I stopped using mine when my new tv came and it only would go to 1080p and my HDBOXPRO would only do 1080x1200. I know they did do some firmware changes but that kinda blows. Oh well. I should find out what it would cost to get it sent in and updated and post it here. I'll post what I find out.
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Fudoh wrote:
Can it deal with 240p input?
I checked with ESPGaluda and with a PS1 Game (Metal Slug X) - both looked fine. The signal is handled as 480i, but that's in no way worse than with the other upscaling solutions out there.
Does it have any of the "shimmering" issues that the XRGB2 exhibits with white text or objects?
don't really know what you mean. What I always disliked about the XRGB2(+) was the weak vertical sync, in other words the wobbliness of the picture on the vertical axis. This picture here is really solid with this little box.
XRGB-3 inhibits "shimmering" doesn't it?
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First of all ,hello to everyone.I'm new on this forum and i'm from Romanian , soory about my english if a write some words wrong :D
Let's begin, i ordered my hdbox pro from Extreme Deal yesterday,until it ships to me i want to ask you some questions.
Does it support 1920 x 1080 (what i read here some model support it,in specification on Extreme deal only says 1920 x 1200 , i hope they are wrong and the box that will come to me support 1920 x 1080.
I have a monitor Philips 244E1SB full HD max resolution 1920 x 1080,here's the link : http://www.aate.ee/data1/files/Philips_ ... onitor.pdf
When the Hd Box Pro arrives , i want to connect the Wii (component ) and my VGA laptop connector to VGA in from the box , and the VGA out from the box to my Philips 244e1sb.
Now the big question :
1. if the box doesnt have 1920 x 1080 output resolution will the image from wii fill the screen?
2. if the box doesnt have 1920 x 1080 output resolution, when i wiil change the input from vga box to my laptop to disply it on the philips will it display at 1920 x 1080?

Hope i was clear, please help me with some answers , sorry again about my english.

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1. This depends on what other resolution you will choose and how your monitor handles upscaling to its native resolution. I'm gonna say that most likely your monitor will fully upscale whatever resolution you choose the HDBP to output and you'll get a full-screen picture. But still, take that with a grain of salt.
*Note that some monitors have an option in the menu to change the way how lower resolutions get handled.

2. The HDBP's VGA input is for passthrough only, that means the HDBP won't do anything to the signal you're going to feed in it's VGA-in; If you set your Laptop to 1920x1080 everything will be displayed correctly.
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Thank a lot for the quick replay.I don't have in the menu setting about resolution,only to change 4:3 or 16:9 aspect ratio.
I am relaxed now that i know the vga it's just passthroug and doesn't effect my image from my laptop.
About the Wii part, i think the monitor will do the job (it's not that old) to fill the screen,even if not i'm still going to get an image wright?but maybe it will not fill the screen.Or maybe i'm lucky and my hdboxpro comes with 1920 x 1080 in the resolution options.
For everybody,the price on extremedeal is 39,99 $ with free shiping around the world
I cant wait to test it,but i've got to wait 2 or 3 weeks until it comes.

With regards,
Mircea

NOTE* I dont know if it does have any meaning but if I change resolution on my screnn ...from 800 x 600 to 1920 x 1080 ., all of them are filling the screan ,some streched.
i think i'm wooring to much, it's going to be fine :))
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Another question.Does the vga passthrroug works with the unit offline?When i want to use only my monitor with my laptop it would be cool that the unit could stay offline.
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MirceaRomania wrote:Another question.Does the vga passthrroug works with the unit offline?When i want to use only my monitor with my laptop it would be cool that the unit could stay offline.
The passthrough ability is solely controlled by the standby mode = if the HDBP is on standby the VGA acts as passthrough, if the HDBP is green it acts as scaler for whatever you hook on the component inputs.

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Thanks man, you helped me alot.Can't wait fot the box to arrive, i will post my review after i test it.
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I bought an HD Box Pro recently and this seems like the best place to get a bit of help setting it up. It's likely I've overlooked something simple so I'll just list what all I did before hand and what monitor I am using. I have an ASUS VH236H and was connecting a ps2 to the HD box Pro. I set the ps2 to YPbPr mode and ran the system on a TV with the component cables. Then I connected my VGA and component cables to the box and their respective locations. I plugged in the PSU and then turned on my PS2 and Monitor but there was no signal being transmitted. From what I read you can still get into the menus of the HD box Pro even if there is nothing connected to it but I could not do this either.

I am not sure if I have overlooked something or if the unit is not working properly and await your suggestions.
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