Whatever happened to the Ketsui Dump?

[GaijinPunch]

It would be much more tolerable if everyone port more energy into getting a blow job every now and again.

Something tells me you've been picking up the slack for the rest of us for some time now.

Shit... I wish.

[BulletMagnet]

Well, I doubt anyone would argue that your heart (if not certain other bits) is certainly in the right place.

[roker]

I'm tired of elitism.

Seriously.

That's all this is about anyway. Guru feels he's the only one that can do this and he feels like he has no obligation to anyone but at the same time, he likes to "torture" people by acting like his services are an act of god.

fuck off.

no one cares that you do work for Mame and all this other shit. Most people are here for the love of the games. No one should stress out over stupid shit. If keeps planning on being a selfish dick about it, he should return the PCB and call it a day. I also can't stand his "fans" that jump up and say, "he doesn't have to work on this and blah blah blah" every time someone complains about his actions.

fuck off as well.

[robivy64]

I love getting emails from people asking me to donate some of my non-emulated games to the guy so he can dump them.

Fuck. That. Shit.

[nem]

Yeah, fuck preserving these things

*high five*

[robivy64]

Don't worry, they are preserved on my shelf.

[GaijinPunch]

Yeah, fuck preserving these things

*high five*

It's the fact that the team asks for (often high dollar) undumped games which you will never get back, while offering nothing in return, and having people like the aforementioned somewhere in the process. Giving for the benefit of the emulation community isn't good enough for a lot of people.

[sven666]

ketsui really is the dump that keeps on giving

[cools]

Ahh, that old adage: if you want something done, do it yourself.

[moozooh]

Thankfully the Ketsui dump has been slightly less than fully obsoleted by an excellent x360 port.

[emphatic]

Thankfully the Ketsui dump has been slightly less than fully obsoleted by an excellent x360 port.

BUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO ENJOY WITH NO SCANLINES THAT ONLY A MAME PORT CAN OFFER.

[SP3RRFEUER]

Thankfully the Ketsui dump has been slightly less than fully obsoleted by an excellent x360 port.

BUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO ENJOY WITH NO SCANLINES THAT ONLY A MAME PORT CAN OFFER.

+one could play it at the office!

[cul]

I love getting emails from people asking me to donate some of my non-emulated games to the guy so he can dump them.

Fuck. That. Shit.

There are people that pathetic?

[roker]

Thankfully the Ketsui dump has been slightly less than fully obsoleted by an excellent x360 port.

And how!

Now if only I didn't have to import a 360 ... maybe next year

[rtw]

There are a lot of rumours flying around regarding the Ketsui PCB, allow me to clear things up with some information from Guru.

As of today 2010-09-08 the following holds:

. Guru has the Ketsui PCB
. It has been dumped
. It has protection which needs a lot of work
. CAVE has specifically asked MAMEDEV NOT to release drivers for their newer games

Instead of waiting for Ketsui to be emulated you can donate a bit of money
to help The Dumping Union [http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/du/donate.html] pay
for Wyvern-F0 which cost close to 6000USD.

http://guru.mameworld.info/wip/TaitoPCBs.jpg

[GaijinPunch]

Instead of waiting for Ketsui to be emulated you can donate a bit of money
to help The Dumping Union [http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/du/donate.html] pay
for Wyvern-F0 which cost close to 6000USD.

http://guru.mameworld.info/wip/TaitoPCBs.jpg

So did they attain that? Wonder what happened to the cab.

[nem]

It's the fact that the team asks for (often high dollar) undumped games which you will never get back, while offering nothing in return, and having people like the aforementioned somewhere in the process. Giving for the benefit of the emulation community isn't good enough for a lot of people.

For the record Ketsui doesn't need preserving. I don't really care if that shit is emulated any time soon. There's a port available that should be good enough. And if not, there's loads of PCB's going about and seemingly pretty cheap too on YJ.

My remark was more because of the fact that I've just seen too many arcade games pass hands that I'm pretty sure will never be seen again. PCB's are fragile things, and a non-working one is worthless. So if you seriously have something that is one of a kind, get that thing dumped. The hardware won't last forever, and when it's gone, it's gone.

And if you don't want to give something away, people will pay for these things to get dumped. Don't let the loud, foul-mouthed Mame kids make you think otherwise.

[PsychoGun]

I can't think of a bigger waste of time than emulating Ketsui, just buy a j360, it's damn perfect.

None of this cave shit needs preserving, such a false umbrella to hide under.

[robivy64]

With proper care, maintenance, and handling, PCBs will last a LONG time. The main reason PCBs die is because of ham-fisted mouth breathers doing things like placing PCBs on carpet (see sig) or stacking them.

And even if one dies, 99% of the time the data can still be extracted from the ROMs. Most PCBs use MASK ROMs, so the data is etched into the chip and can't be erased. Rarely is a PCB failure attributed to a ROM failure.

[RetroRepair]

Rarely is a PCB failure attributed to a ROM failure.

Sorry but that's just BS. It's much more common than you would think and often it's the mask ROMs that are to blame.

[Dave_K.]

The main reason PCBs die is because of ham-fisted mouth breathers doing things like placing PCBs on carpet (see sig) or stacking them.

If the Guru can do it, it must be ok!

[robivy64]

Rarely is a PCB failure attributed to a ROM failure.

Sorry but that's just BS. It's much more common than you would think and often it's the mask ROMs that are to blame.

Surely you mean EPROMs. I've never run into a bad MROM since the data is photolithographed when the chip is manufactured. EPROM data rot is fairly common.

[nem]

Yeah, and many boards that are genuinely rare are games that never went in to mass production. Stuff that was only put on location test. And many of them used EPROMs instead of masks

[Strider77]

I keep my PCBs in carpet bags, should I not be doing that?

[Ex-Cyber]

A lot of games use a mix of mask ROM and OTP EPROM or Flash. Looking at it more broadly, a whole hell of a lot of games use some type of PLD that will eventually get bit rot (I see 3 on the Ketsui board).

[RetroRepair]

Rarely is a PCB failure attributed to a ROM failure.

Sorry but that's just BS. It's much more common than you would think and often it's the mask ROMs that are to blame.

Surely you mean EPROMs. I've never run into a bad MROM since the data is photolithographed when the chip is manufactured. EPROM data rot is fairly common.

Nope. Had a lot of boards recently with mask ROMs that needed replacing, most were early to mid 90s boards. Though EPROMs do fail more often, it's not uncommon for mask ROMs to bite the dust for whatever reason.

[drunkninja24]

I keep my PCBs in carpet bags, should I not be doing that?

The shaggier, the better.

[ncp]

Does putting a PCB on a carpet really do significant damage to it?

I mean, hell, people used to freak out about touching the bottom of CDs and DVDs but at this point I'm pretty sure I could make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich using a CD as a knife, then wipe it off with steel wool and that shit would still work. I don't even remember the last time I had a CD fail on me due to scratches/smudges.

[mjclark]

Does putting a PCB on a carpet really do significant damage to it?

I mean, hell, people used to freak out about touching the bottom of CDs and DVDs but at this point I'm pretty sure I could make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich using a CD as a knife, then wipe it off with steel wool and that shit would still work. I don't even remember the last time I had a CD fail on me due to scratches/smudges.

Lol- I remember when CDs first became available in UK, the science programme "Tomorrow's World" did a demonstration in which they spread one with jam then washed it off and the CD played perfectly. My grandmother also ironed one of my 7" flexidisks once cos it had a crease in it, and that played perfectly too.
In my 8 years of building PCs I've never experienced any damage to RAM modules and other components due to static (from a carpet or anything else), although I never wear any anti-static devices and frequently forget to earth myself BUT it does happen and it only needs to happen once for you to be seriously pissed off. I'd be interested to see who has actually experienced components failing due to electrostatic discharge.
Luckily we havn't put a carpet down in our living-room yet

[sikraiken]

Places where there is less humidity in the air (colder climates, for instance) are places where you'll have more problems with static electricity. Not that it can't happen in a place like Florida, but it's less likely. It can possibly cause damage, so it's not like how CDs are. :D