BulletMagnet wrote:j^aws wrote:I can see all the hard work that has been put into the unofficial glossary. My hats off to you and all involved.
All I really do is compile the info that people here on the forum give me: there's a discussion thread where the process happens linked in my sig. Thanks for the kudos though.
No probs!... Cool, so that discussion thread is the arena (pun intended) to roam and define terms...
BulletMagnet wrote:However, some parts are clearly open to *different* interpretations and others assuming things that aren't clearly defined... e.g. the 'subject' when free-roaming; is it the weapon or the characters? etc...
You'll hafta phrase this a different way, I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to...
Yeah, sure... it's from the glossary definition for "Arena":
From unofficial glossary wrote:Arena Shooter: (also Free-Roaming Shooter) A shooting game, usually “top-down” oriented, which takes place within a confined area, sometimes consisting of separate, linked “rooms,” through which the player usually progresses manually, at his own pace, rather than having a scrolling screen to “nudge” him along, although there is often a time limit in play. Smash T.V. is one example. Not considered “pure” shmups by some players; sometimes grouped under borderliners.
... I bolded "Free-Roaming" and "him"... because from the above, you seem to be referring to the "character" that is "Free-Roaming". A few posts earlier in the thread, another interpretation seemed to label the "Free-Roaming" element to a characters "weapon"... Does that make it clearer? ...And which is it?
E.g. Robotron 2084 has independent control for character and weapon directions (both 8-way) using twin sticks. This is where I can see a point for confusion...
Also in the above quote, "confined area" can technically apply to other shmup sub-genres, e.g. Tempest... but it's obvious you were referring to Smash TV, because of your example... Maybe you can add a qualifier to make this distinction in the glossary?
BulletMagnet wrote:...In any event, many definitions I/we put up are somewhat open to interpretation, as there's never going to be a consensus on a lot of things, so the glossary is mainly there just to cover the essentials and let people make up their own minds.
Yeah, I can definitely understand that. And very useful it is too.
I've definitely got my own interpretations on certain definitions that I've expanded from the glossary, e.g. the XY plane being fundamental to shmups... this is obviously in a 'raw' state in this thread because I haven't expanded on many points (nor given the opportunity to)... but in my mind, I have a fully fleshed out model and that's all that matters, at-the-end-of-the-day...
BulletMagnet wrote:Is there a deadline before it goes official? Just curious...
Never, really, heh heh. The thing is added to and otherwise edited whenever there's something worth changing...and I have the time to do it. It's nothing "serious," really, just something I thought might be nice to finally put together, and a bunch of people, as I mentioned, have helped me out.
That's cool. Deadlines are evil!
Something that might be worth adding after this years voting is over, are examples of "borderliners", after allowing for arena shmups...?
