post here if YOU LIek VIDEO GAMES!!!!!!

Steamflogger Boss · Post by **Steamflogger Boss** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:47 pm

Xyga wrote:also will someone finally tell wtf is this thread about ?

It's an experiment I think.

charlie chong · Post by **charlie chong** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:10 pm

this thread is now about how twin cobra is better than truxton

mycophobia · Post by **mycophobia** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:55 pm

charlie chong wrote:this thread is now about how twin cobra is better than truxton

i respect your opinion though i may not agree with it, but please do not hijack my thread. Thank you.

Bananamatic · Post by **Bananamatic** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:11 pm

Xyga wrote:your funniest post so far

also will someone finally tell wtf is this thread about ?

about the fact that everyone is starting to realize this forum is about trying to get banned without being blatantly racist or insulting others because there's barely any other value
either the mods give in and ban people or they break and we achieve total anarchy

mycophobia · Post by **mycophobia** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:18 pm

Bananamatic wrote:
Xyga wrote:your funniest post so far

also will someone finally tell wtf is this thread about ?
about the fact that everyone is starting to realize this forum is about trying to get banned without being blatantly racist or insulting others because there's barely any other value
either the mods give in and ban people or they break and we achieve total anarchy

i dont know what any of this means but im pretty sure this thread is about liking videogames

rugdoctor · Post by **rugdoctor** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:40 pm

Steamflogger Boss · Post by **Steamflogger Boss** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:54 pm

Attn Mods: I am hereby formally requesting that the user charlie chong be banned for having an incorrect opinion about video games.

BryanM · Post by **BryanM** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:03 pm

I do not like video games.

They had some ideas, but then they ran out. Currently they're trying to distract us with a tv strapped to the face and cardboard to distract us from the fact we're not living The Matrix already.

WelshMegalodon · Post by **WelshMegalodon** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:07 am

KAI wrote:

Is it wrong that I also feel this way about movies and comics?

And can we stop pretending "gamer culture" is an actual thing instead of something corporations invented to sell us Funko Pop figures?

Steamflogger Boss wrote:If anyone has solid recommendations for this genre I am all ears. Pref on Genesis, Fami/NES or PCE.

They're a PC genre first and foremost, so consoles aren't the best place to look, but I know there's Cosmic Fantasy 2 on the PC Engine, Star Cruiser on the Mega Drive, Rise of the Dragon on the Mega-CD, and Portopia Renzoku Satsujin Jiken on the Famicom.

charlie chong · Post by **charlie chong** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:52 am

BryanM wrote:I do not like video games.

They had some ideas, but then they ran out. Currently they're trying to distract us with a tv strapped to the face and cardboard to distract us from the fact we're not living The Matrix already.

we all died in 2012 now we live in the simulation i thought everyone knew that

Jonny2x4 · Post by **Jonny2x4** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:11 am

WelshMegalodon wrote: And can we stop pretending "gamer culture" is an actual thing instead of something corporations invented to sell us Funko Pop figures?

There might not be any accounting for taste, but collecting Funko Pop figures is certainly a sign that you might no't have any.

Steamflogger Boss wrote:They're a PC genre first and foremost, so consoles aren't the best place to look, but I know there's Cosmic Fantasy 2 on the PC Engine, Star Cruiser on the Mega Drive, Rise of the Dragon on the Mega-CD, and Portopia Renzoku Satsujin Jiken on the Famicom.

Isn't Cosmic Fantasy 2 an RPG?

On a side-note, it always bothers me that people refer to Japanese AVGs (such as Snatcher and Famicom Detective Club) as VNs when they're not really interchangeable genres.

drauch · Post by **drauch** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:32 am

I guess Dead of the Brain for PC98 is still up in the air. I thought the project was dead and started working on my own half-assed translation with my half-assed friend who was doing the hacking, but it seems back up again. We need more of these.

*And edit* But I think Nana's dead

. I stumbled upon his patreon sometime last year and his last post was 2016. Had a lot of good stuff planned. I guess I don't fault people for not following through with these; a lot of work for a very small fanbase.

WelshMegalodon · Post by **WelshMegalodon** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:42 am

Jonny2x4 wrote:Isn't Cosmic Fantasy 2 an RPG?

So it is! Star Cruiser is an RPG, too. My bad.

Jonny2x4 wrote:On a side-note, it always bothers me that people refer to Japanese AVGs (such as Snatcher and Famicom Detective Club) as VNs when they're not really interchangeable genres.

There is some genre overlap in titles like Sakura no Kisetsu. I don't think Steamflogger is looking for VNs, though. (It would be much easier to recommend titles if he were.)

Jonny2x4 · Post by **Jonny2x4** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:17 am

drauch wrote:I guess Dead of the Brain for PC98 is still up in the air. I thought the project was dead and started working on my own half-assed translation with my half-assed friend who was doing the hacking, but it seems back up again. We need more of these.

Do you have a script dump somewhere?

drauch · Post by **drauch** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:56 am

Sadly not. I think he finally managed to pull part of the first disk, but since we're both idiots and completely new to this stuff we couldn't get the files to read correctly.

Steamflogger Boss · Post by **Steamflogger Boss** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:02 am

WelshMegalodon wrote:They're a PC genre first and foremost, so consoles aren't the best place to look, but I know there's Cosmic Fantasy 2 on the PC Engine, Star Cruiser on the Mega Drive, Rise of the Dragon on the Mega-CD, and Portopia Renzoku Satsujin Jiken on the Famicom.

Yeah I figured as much, I knew certainly it's a PC genre in the west (as I've played basically all the US classics).

I have actually played Rise of the Dragon (though I believe this is a US game actually). It was medium minus imo.

Jonny2x4 wrote:
Isn't Cosmic Fantasy 2 an RPG?

On a side-note, it always bothers me that people refer to Japanese AVGs (such as Snatcher and Famicom Detective Club) as VNs when they're not really interchangeable genres.

It is. I played it a fair bit through, something happened with my save data so I never bothered to finish. It was pretty rough around the edges.

Famicom Detective Club looks interesting.

drauch wrote:I guess Dead of the Brain for PC98 is still up in the air. I thought the project was dead and started working on my own half-assed translation with my half-assed friend who was doing the hacking, but it seems back up again. We need more of these.

*And edit* But I think Nana's dead . I stumbled upon his patreon sometime last year and his last post was 2016. Had a lot of good stuff planned. I guess I don't fault people for not following through with these; a lot of work for a very small fanbase.

Fan translations are an intense labor of love. Hoping some of the planned PCE ones go through but I know the guys involved are really busy.

lilmanjs · Post by **lilmanjs** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:45 am

Monopoly is the best game ever.

Jonny2x4 · Post by **Jonny2x4** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:56 am

WelshMegalodon wrote: don't think Steamflogger is looking for VNs, though. (It would be much easier to recommend titles if he were.)

I just mad that TV Tropes has Snatcher and Policenauts classified as Visual Novels. It's obvious whoever made the move is one of those people who think that every Japanese AVG is a VN.

Steamflogger Boss · Post by **Steamflogger Boss** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:08 pm

WelshMegalodon wrote: There is some genre overlap in titles like Sakura no Kisetsu. I don't think Steamflogger is looking for VNs, though. (It would be much easier to recommend titles if he were.)

Correct, looking for proper adventure games only. I know for example the PCE is loaded with VNs/Digital Comics.

mycophobia · Post by **mycophobia** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:32 pm

Jonny2x4 wrote:
WelshMegalodon wrote: don't think Steamflogger is looking for VNs, though. (It would be much easier to recommend titles if he were.)
I just mad that TV Tropes has Snatcher and Policenauts classified as Visual Novels. It's obvious whoever made the move is one of those people who think that every Japanese AVG is a VN.

What distinguishes something like Snatcher from a VN? Not arguing, I'm just ignorant of both genres

Steamflogger Boss · Post by **Steamflogger Boss** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:54 pm

So it's a fairly thin line since there are people that just lump them together. Imo VNs have very little actual interaction. I would say for example a lot of the games released by Telltale are closer to VNs than classic adventure games are. Whereas in an adventure game you have to solve puzzles, figure out what to do in general, more actual gameplay basically. A recent example of what I would call a full adventure game series would be Deponia.

Hope that helps.

BryanM · Post by **BryanM** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:51 pm

I always liked the straightforward nature of Quest for Glory. The idea of having convoluted "puzzles" just to have them always made these things worse. When you have a game that encourages trying to jam every object in your inventory into every object on the screen - that's a failure of design.

Where's the "adventure" if you're just a rat running down a tunnel, with no freedom at all?

Those were some halcyon days when this genre was king on PC. Back when nerds were the only ones who owned computers. Appealing to the masses ruins everything. Humor is always one of the first things to go - since god knows nobody agrees on that.

Darkseed is such a memorable kusoge. The developer - writer, lead actor, designer - had the main character be a Mary Sue version of himself. (They literally have the same first and last names.) They got HR Giger to license out some of his art to them. In the sequel, the dev was a different guy and he made the game in a kind of way that mocked the protagonist. The infamous, rigged unwinnable carnival games. All of it culminating in the ring toss game.

This kind of stuff is actually memorable.

lilmanjs wrote:Monopoly is the best game ever.

I love getting people to play it whenever there's awkward dead time. Invariably they play it in a manner that makes everyone bicker, argue, and miserable.

Which is the entire point of the Landlord's game. It was made by a socialist named Liz to make people stop awhile and think about the evils of rents, after all.

When played by the actual rules (auctions are held if the person landing on a property doesn't buy it) and ending the game when the first person goes bankrupt (the "winner" is the person with the most money, including their assets) it is actually kind of enjoyable. But who wants that?

Steamflogger Boss · Post by **Steamflogger Boss** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:24 pm

Quest for Glory is a great series, I still have my old physical copies but bought them on GOG anyway.

Monopoly always ends in pain lmao.

Sumez · Post by **Sumez** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:32 pm

Steamflogger Boss · Post by **Steamflogger Boss** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:45 pm

What does that make people that still play gen 3/4 regularly?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:50 pm

Steamflogger Boss wrote:What does that make people that still play gen 3/4 regularly?

Xyga · Post by **Xyga** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:04 pm

paleogamers

Steamflogger Boss · Post by **Steamflogger Boss** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:14 pm

Xyga wrote:paleogamers

I like it. I think I'm gonna play some Famicom tonight.

Sumez · Post by **Sumez** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:44 pm

Steamflogger Boss wrote:What does that make people that still play gen 3/4 regularly?

You clearly live in a society

Xyga · Post by **Xyga** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:54 pm

Steamflogger Boss wrote:
Xyga wrote:paleogamers
I like it.

also it is natural for paleogamers to enjoy caves

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