Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

Nearly three-hundred dead people and a lot of grief for families left in the dark.

They haven't found any wreckage or human remains, they're not dead until it's been 100% confirmed to be true. We can't just go assuming the worst, even in cases like this where the chances of finding survivors are slim to none.

[GaijinPunch]

didn't open an opinion thread to be a bulletin board for low-brow humour.

Um... you started the thread here didn't you?

[Skykid]

didn't open an opinion thread to be a bulletin board for low-brow humour.

Um... you started the thread here didn't you?

This is true.

[glitch]

Geez.

I appreciate the mystery is thought provoking, but poor taste perhaps? Nearly three-hundred dead people and a lot of grief for families left in the dark. I didn't open an opinion thread to be a bulletin board for low-brow humour.

on one hand i totally feel you on this. tv showed some family and partners crumbling at the announcement that the government now considers everyone dead and then i can't help but inadvertently think "what if it were my brother/sister/girlfriend on that plane" and then spend the next minute trying to banish that thought from my mind again cause dear god i don't even... ( ;_;)

on the other hand, what we gonna do, speculate?

[Skykid]

on the other hand, what we gonna do, speculate?

Considering the state of affairs, I think that would be a slightly less coarse approach, yes.

I remember shit like this every time I need to get on a plane. I'm not up for dancing around people's misfortunes in air travel.

[glitch]

fair enough.
not quite sure if speculating away is more respectful than ridiculing the news coverage and the malaysian government, but yeah, we could stand to tone it down a bit. sorry.

[Friendly]

didn't open an opinion thread to be a bulletin board for low-brow humour.

Um... you started the thread here didn't you?

Well, how dare you post nonsense on Skykid's blog? That's his prerogative.
As I (and others) have experienced in the past, he gets to decide which opinions are acceptable here.

[BIL]

[trap15]

Fucking lay off, holy shit. This animosity is getting really goddamn old.

[Friendly]

I'd love to. Will you leave me in peace from now on?

[charlie chong]

absurdity is far more high brow than idiotic internet conjecture.

[Skykid]

Lol @ Friendly accusing people of blogging. Ha ha!

Pretty funny from a fucking astroturfer.

[nasty_wolverine]

If i die and i have some way of knowing after death, I would be happy a few people got to laugh at it. People die all the time, some in very special circumstances, doesnt change the fact they will die sooner or later.

and to be honest, we werent laughing at the expense of their death, more at the absurdity of whole situation. does anyone seriously believe with all the high tech surviellance available its really that hard to track down a jet? none of those secret eyes-in-the-sky were looking? that it crashed near a US base and they didnt see on their radar?

come on if you gonna give the world bullshit stories, atleast make it fun, like alien abduction or trans-dimensional portals.

[Skykid]

I really don't mind so much, just surprised we managed to divert so quickly from the exact disbelief and speculation you mention to sort of taking the piss. It's probably just me. I used to be better at flying, these days I'm a little more apprehensive for some reason, so I try not to upset the karma.

But if you want to topic split I'm more than happy to laugh at Friendly's inability to understand how bolded words are meant for emphasis, or his Superman DUI thread: worst ever transparent attempt not to post something Sony related, and slightly less successful a talking point than the four page 'blog'/discussion about Kojima's flawed approach to MGS.

Insert coin to continue.

[Xyga]

does anyone seriously believe with all the high tech surviellance available its really that hard to track down a jet? none of those secret eyes-in-the-sky were looking? that it crashed near a US base and they didnt see on their radar?

I've been wondering about that, and I don't think monitoring the whole earth surface and atmosphere is that easy. Anyone with proper equipement can locate a device emitting at least some sort of signal (if it's strong enough) but it's no use if nobody's actually paying attention to it or no program is scanning that particular area at the right moment.

I don't know how radar systems work together between the various air spaces, but I bet satellite surveillance systems are different. If a country like the US most certainly have enough equipment to spy on every inch of the planet, they also most certainly don't check 100% of it 24/7. They will have programs designed for various levels of surveillance and alert on specific target areas and events.
Each country might be doing the same with its own equipment capabilities and programs, and I doubt they're all sharing data real time.

Add to this that humans are actually responsible for the job and it's easy to imagine that a plane could fly unnoticed for hours.
Perfect surveillance only exists in techno-thrillers.

[nasty_wolverine]

I've been wondering about that, and I don't think monitoring the whole earth surface and atmosphere is that easy. Anyone with proper equipement can locate a device emitting at least some sort of signal (if it's strong enough) but it's no use if nobody's actually paying attention to it or no program is scanning that particular area at the right moment.

I don't know how radar systems work together between the various air spaces, but I bet satellite surveillance systems are different. If a country like the US most certainly have enough equipment to spy on every inch of the planet, they also most certainly don't check 100% of it 24/7. They will have programs designed for various levels of surveillance and alert on specific target areas and events.
Each country might be doing the same with its own equipment capabilities and programs, and I doubt they're all sharing data real time.

Add to this that humans are actually responsible for the job and it's easy to imagine that a plane could fly unnoticed for hours.
Perfect surveillance only exists in techno-thrillers.

My point is they announced that they have a missing plane. There is bound to be some countries that want to look if its coming towards them and whether is it headed for any of there cities. There would have been "eyes" within minutes of the announcement. They would atleast know where the plane isn't, and the search and rescue wouldnt have been everywhere. unless the jet had stealth capabilities, theres no way it would have aboided radars, and every countries border is setup with radars to detect hostiles.

They know exactly what happened to the plane, which probably is so controversial they dont want the world to know.

Tinfoil theory: the plane was carrying a nuclear warhead/reactor for transport which started going critical, the malay govt ordered the pilot to dump it in the sea, along with the rest of them.

[Xyga]

There would have been "eyes"

Yeah but what if...

[BryanM]

[Eno]

Tinfoil theory: the plane was carrying a nuclear warhead/reactor for transport which started going critical, the malay govt ordered the pilot to dump it in the sea, along with the rest of them.

The pilot is known to be a staunch supporter of the biggest opposition leader in Malaysia. If there was something potentially incriminating against the govt. onboard he'd likely be more willing to try to bring it to light rather than sacrifice some thousand people and all evidence along with himself. Or even more likely, not be informed of it at all.

[austere]

Tinfoil theory: the plane was carrying a nuclear warhead/reactor for transport which started going critical, the malay govt ordered the pilot to dump it in the sea, along with the rest of them.

LOL. Maybe it was carrying Godzilla.

But seriously, it's a missing plane. The plane itself with all its passengers is valuable enough to a hostage taker. If there was something of value to be stolen by a state or power, they would have done it on the ground in Malaysia. You have no idea how shitty the airport is -- it is a joke, I was sickened by it and will refuse to attend any conferences there again.

If you want tin-foiling, here's a good one:
a) The Malaysian pilot reportedly simulated landing in Maldives and Diego Garcia http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... 6858982152
b) Multiple Maldives residents reported a low-flying Jumbo jet http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/malaysia-airli ... rs-1440867
c) Maldives reported not seeing it on their radars which is completely consistent with it flying extremely low, the only thing that would pick it up is AWACS http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/23/world ... nes-plane/
d) FBI is now attempting to recover data the pilot deleted from his flight simulator http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-fb ... or-1972646
e) Malaysia strongly rebuffed the report from Maldives residents and refuses to comply with any reasonable demand for information.

The evidence so far is not inconsistent with a possible terrorist plot by the pilot attempting to crash into the Diego Garcia base with a fully loaded jet. Now, let me save you the trouble by debunking it:

a) How would he keep the entire flight deck silent and restrained, let alone his crew, after diverging from the set flight path?
b) What happened to the plane, since the phones did ring meaning they were in range of some kind of tower? If they did approach Diego Garcia and flying at a low altitude giving little warning, it's reasonable to assume they'd be shot down as emergency defensive action. But then, why would the phones still ring?
c) Flying low consumes much more fuel than flying at cruising altitude and he only had enough fuel for 7 hours of flight. How did he reach Maldives?

Yeah, like I said, we'll probably never know what happened and quite frankly, as tragic as it is, there are much more pressing events happening right now worldwide. The coverage given to this is truly unreasonable.