yes, that's basically the same. The two major 31khz timings are 480p60 and 576p50. On the PC there's also 400p70 used for old DOS games.
Cool. Now i know. Thanks.
I've been searching the internet trying to find the acceptable signal formats for the BVM 20E1E but no luck. The manual doesn't show it like it does with the later BVM-D and A series.
So right now im going just by what you told me. That no 31khz or 480p is possible on the 20f1/e1. If you can find the place you read it that would be great or did you just find that out yourself by owning the monitor?
I would be nice to have only the D or A series in regards to the better source compatibility although the higher resolution of those later consoles would i believe be slightly more favourable on a bigger screen than 20".
If you can find the place you read it that would be great or did you just find that out yourself by owning the monitor?
if you feel like reading it up, it's in the manual, first thing under specs. I knew before buying the monitor or checking the manual. I mean, that's what these monitors were built for ? SD video monitoring...
If you can find the place you read it that would be great or did you just find that out yourself by owning the monitor?
if you feel like reading it up, it's in the manual, first thing under specs. I knew before buying the monitor or checking the manual. I mean, that's what these monitors were built for ? SD video monitoring...
I have read the manual through a couple of times and i can't seem to find those acceptable signal format resolutions and frequencies listed. Only the basic vertical and horizontal resolution, power requirements and such things. What page number did you see it on?
in the thread i linked on page 1 there is someone who got an a series model and reported on its compatibiliy with non HD signals. iirc the monitor worked even with 15khz sources, so ii#d be surprised if there were problems with 480p material...
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ryu wrote:in the thread i linked on page 1 there is someone who got an a series model and reported on its compatibiliy with non HD signals. iirc the monitor worked even with 15khz sources, so ii#d be surprised if there were problems with 480p material...
Thanks. I know this. My question was for the earlier 20F1E and 20E1E (with no D or A in the front). Because they certainly have the lines to be able to muster 480p and 31khz but Fudoh say no. So i must trust him since he's one of the few who knows around here.
I really don't know what you want to hear. If it says 525 lines 60Hz interlaced, this means 15khz only. If it said 525 lines 60Hz progressive, then it would be 31khz as well.
I finally went ahead and put in an offer on a PVM 20L5 - we'll see.
My personal thoughts are that I didn't find that many new features on the BVM that warrant getting one over a PVM at the same size. Getting a BVM in 24 inches (or larger) is a different story because of the slightly larger screen real estate, however. That is probably at the edge of what I would want to try to carry but should still be worthwhile.
Fudoh wrote:I really don't know what you want to hear. If it says 525 lines 60Hz interlaced, this means 15khz only. If it said 525 lines 60Hz progressive, then it would be 31khz as well.
I was hoping to purchase a model that also could do 480p/31khz. So i wouldn't have to get two monitors. One for older (low res 15khz) and another for newer consoles (480p/31khz).
But you said that the BVM-20F1E you got can't do 480p or 31khz. Only the BVM-D or A series.
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You cannot plan on getting a BVM and then just jump for the next best TV set. Geometry, convergence and overall quality are in a different league on a BVM. And don't forget that 4:3 and 16:9 have the same resolution on ED systems, so you'll always have worse graphics (in terms or pixel per inch) when using 16:9 anyway.
Fudoh wrote:Not too hard, but I don't think it's worth it.
You cannot plan on getting a BVM and then just jump for the next best TV set. Geometry, convergence and overall quality are in a different league on a BVM. And don't forget that 4:3 and 16:9 have the same resolution on ED systems, so you'll always have worse graphics (in terms or pixel per inch) when using 16:9 anyway.
Fudoh wrote:What's your reason for insisting on a CRT for 480p ?
I just wanted to use the optimal resolution the consoles could produce. A progressive signal would do that i guess but ofcause not so much if im getting a mediocre TV for just this feature.
Fudoh wrote:Once you get a BVM, you're spoiled for any other TV set.
Cool.
Anyway crt tv's are cheap enough to replace if they suck. The biggest hurdle is getting them up the stairs and not passing out from exhaustion (i live on the second floor).
I already get medicine for OCD. So stressing about "did i get the best unit" is properly even worse than the physical part.
I could ofcause always get the 32 inch bvm but it's nearly 100kg and rather big. As well as the few available almost all are in the US (at least on Ebay)
Phellan Wolf wrote:Yep, It seems that no one is selling a single one on europe. I have been looking for quite a while and haven't seen none, just some pvm overpeiced
Yes a few 24" bvm's but that wont give you a much bigger picture in 4:3 and they're more expensive.
Fudoh wrote:Once you get a BVM, you're spoiled for any other TV set.
Not necessarily. I have two PVM's but I mostly play games on a B&O. I find I am fine as long as I am playing on a CRT capable of higher quality connection than composite.
.Are those FD series with VGA input easy to find in the wild you think?
