Nerdcore: Should Deckard be a replicant in Blade Runner?

[CMoon]

Unfortunately it doesn't really change the point that (at least for me) the story works better with Deckard as a human, and it seems like Scott didn't actually see that (again, my questioning of him as a director.) And yeah, I hate twist endings. They tend to turn films into a 1 to 2 viewings affair. If you can watch and enjoy 6th sense a second time, good for you.

My issue with Deckard being a replicant as a twist, is that it doesn't bring anything to the table. Deckard is still the same morose cop with the same shitty job he had before. Perhaps if it had been explored in some other way, like show the whole series of Deckard's they had been using to fight the wave of replicants, or whatever. Something to make it a major theme instead of a trivial nerd-gasm. The problem is how this transforms BR into a radically different film, maybe a great film, but not the film Blade Runner is.

I also think introducing the Deckard-as-replicant theme makes the film guilty of shoe-horning too much into a single movie--like how Django Unchained tried to out-do everything ever done in a spaghetti western and blaxploitation film, all in one movie. Instead of additional layers of complexity, it just becomes a mess.

So to me the question of what Scott really intended here is sort of irrelevant; I'm more interested in MM's original point about the artistic merit of both views, and why people prefer one reading over the other.

[Friendly]

I find it fascinating that the BR film does co-exist within the original Alien flick universe as well. Tyrell Corp. and Weyland Industries (later on known as Weyland-Yutani joint-venture conglomerate) co-existing together in the 21st century.

Sorry, but that's bull. As you certainly know, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep is by PKD, and has zilch to do with Alien. Crossover stuff like Dracula vs. Frankenstein is for the weak of mind.

In a way I am glad that Blade Runner was never tainted by any bullshit sequels. Hamlet doesn't need a sequel, either.

[Ed Oscuro]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runn ... e_of_Human

[GaijinPunch]

In a way I am glad that Blade Runner was never tainted by any bullshit sequels. Hamlet doesn't need a sequel, either.

Give it time. If The Thing got a follow up (which apparently the studio loathed before it was even released), you can bet this will at some point.

[greg]

Wait, what? Not trying to derail, but since when was it debatable that the aliens in Signs may/may not exist?

I was not talking about doubts after the movie is done. I was talking about while watching the movie, you have these doubts. Are the aliens real? Maybe there's some twist at the end and it turns out that it was just something else instead? Then the part when he traps the alien in his kitchen and you can see part of it from under the door... everyone in the theater jumped. I think I may have caught parts of it a second time, so I cannot remember the movie well. I thought that it was interesting, at least.

[drauch]

Wait, what? Not trying to derail, but since when was it debatable that the aliens in Signs may/may not exist?

I was not talking about doubts after the movie is done. I was talking about while watching the movie, you have these doubts. Are the aliens real? Maybe there's some twist at the end and it turns out that it was just something else instead? Then the part when he traps the alien in his kitchen and you can see part of it from under the door... everyone in the theater jumped. I think I may have caught parts of it a second time, so I cannot remember the movie well. I thought that it was interesting, at least.

Ahhhhh, okay, gotcha.

[Damocles]

The director thinks he's a replicant. The screenwriter thinks he's human, but wanted it to be an ambiguous issue. Decide whatever the hell makes you happy.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

In a way I am glad that Blade Runner was never tainted by any bullshit sequels. Hamlet doesn't need a sequel, either.

Give it time. If The Thing got a follow up (which apparently the studio loathed before it was even released), you can bet this will at some point.

Ridley Scott has expressed interest in doing another BR flick...except that he wants to do it from a fresh start the 2nd time around. Will it be the same ol' BR plot jazzed up with 21st century special EFX, sugar-coated gloss, elaborate set pieces and whatnot or will it be a true sequel?

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Friendly]

Have you seen Prometheus? I think Scott has completely lost it and should not make any more movies. There really is no excuse for Prometheus, other than the person in charge suffering from brain damage.

[greg]

I heard that the Robin Hood movie before Prometheus was total crap, too. Can you imagine if Blade Runner was remade? Replicants would be running up walls and jumping over buildings. There would definitely be a car chase, especially one in which a Replicant steals a Spinner and there is a freaking Episode 2-style flying car chase. Can anyone else think of other ways they could screw it up?

[Moniker]

Have you seen Prometheus? I think Scott has completely lost it and should not make any more movies. There really is no excuse for Prometheus, other than the person in charge suffering from brain damage.

Oh, Prometheus wasn't all that bad. Sure, it didn't live up to Alien 1&2 standards, but that's a pretty high bar. At least Scott had a bit of reverence for the lore. And Fassbender was freaking awesome.

Again, not saying it was a *good* movie, but i'd say it was worth the price of admission.

[Mortificator]

Prometheus also didn't live up to the Alien 3 standard, and I'm not even sure it lived up to the Alien Resurrection standard.

[Sly Cherry Chunks]

Alien>Aliens>Alien3>Prometheus>AVP>Alien Resurrection>AVPR

[Friendly]

I rate the Alien movies in the following order:

1. Alien

[Ed Oscuro]

1 Alien
2 Aliens
3 William Gibson's Alien 3 script (maybe this one slots in above Aliens, even; would love to have a few...dozen millions to get it made with that late '80s, early '90s feeling; too bad the actors have moved on and are a bit old for the part)

[PROMETHEUS]

I rate the Alien movies in the following order:

1. Alien

+1 ^^