The Tale of ALLTYNEX (SITER SKAIN)

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Drachenherz wrote:Not sure if I understood correctly, but if I pledge 45$, I only get a physical copy if the corresponding stretch-goal is reached?
I think you Euro guys need to add extra for shipping outside the US, though:
Subject to availability, anyone who has contributed an amount lower than $45 will have the opportunity to increase their pledge to $45 or more and receive The Tale of ALLTYNEX Limited Physical Edition, The Tale of ALLTYNEX Official Guide Book, and any other items that apply to the upgraded pledge amount. (Add $10 to ship outside of the US where applicable.)
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THANKS for the amazing show of support, guys!

We blew past our initial goal, but contributions tailed off pretty significantly from today (day 3) and looking good for the first stretch goal. $28k for the physical editions is a ways off, but I honestly think it's doable!

Kicktraq's present number, on the other hand, I'd take with a sumo wrestler fistful of salt.
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See if you guys can get this Kickstarter up on the aggregate websites like Kotaku (they already know all about your Ikaruga-like shmup). I'm sure the donations will jump again! You've already got my $45, keep it up!
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That's one big problem we had since ages ago and it feels like a big chunk of the press simply ignores us. Or guess we didn't poke the right people enough... Too much time spent playing STGs.

On the bright side, funding is closing to the digital edition of the book.
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Well, the least I can do is to spread the word on all the forums I frequent - unfortunately I just don't have any connections to media people, so that's the least I can do.

I hope some larger gaming/tech/news sites are going to pick this up. A physical limited edition with a printed guide book and a CD-soundtrack, that would really be a testament to this great series.
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The only mainstream games news site that I can think of that pays attention to shmups is siliconera. I don't know whether they would post about something like this though.
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Joystiq covered it already and seeing how the article has a whooping 0 comments, it went largely unnoticed.
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For reasons unknown to man this has actually hit a Norwegian gaming site: gamer.no :shock:

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http://www.siliconera.com/2013/04/23/ny ... reenlight/

Siliconera actually covered us, yep. I guess more european sites will pick this up, had a lot of contacts from the spanish press as well.
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Surprised at the lack of "Durr it looks like space invaders" comments there.
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Udderdude wrote:Surprised at the lack of "Durr it looks like space invaders" comments there.
You should check Greenlight. Although so far the comments have been extremely positive. Same deal for Kickstarter as well.
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Thanks for posting this.

Not a fan of kickstarter in general but I wouldn't be able to respect myself in the morning if I didn't back this simply because of how incredible Kamui is (even though I already have the retail JP release). Pledged $100 (that Kamui T-shirt got me).
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Did anybody bring it up on NeoGaf? There's a good number of shmup guys there, and a few in the "all about shooters" topic at Neo-Geo as well. Don't recall many at Digitpress, but I probably mentioned that somewhere before.
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Jup, posted it over on neogeo.com.
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Yup, we have a thread at GAF:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=545452

There was also a mention in their shmups thread but that one is far more aimed at commercial stuff.
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English demo on Friday of Kamui for those still on the fence.
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Bar81 wrote:English demo on Friday of Kamui for those still on the fence.
Demo is out, go get it on the kickstarter page. ;)
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Looks like the amount of money raised is going down. Are people reducing their pledges ?
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Yes, people are withdrawing or downgrading their pledges, as it looks as of now that the physical release-stretchgoals (22k and 28k) won't be reached.

It's a pitty, actually.

I'm trying to get some attention for this project over at the french shmups.com forum - they haven't heard of this KS yet!
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So close to at least the digital strategy guide. I hope we make it to that at least. I've never played this game before, the demo has me excited!
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Drachenherz wrote:Yes, people are withdrawing or downgrading their pledges, as it looks as of now that the physical release-stretchgoals (22k and 28k) won't be reached.

It's a pitty, actually.

I'm trying to get some attention for this project over at the french shmups.com forum - they haven't heard of this KS yet!
That's a real shame, If they offered a physical copy as part of the regular campaign I'm sure they would get far more backing.
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I pulled my pledge when they announced the pricing for the games. I see no reason to pay more and get less - the lowest tier with all three games is $35. That's $15 more than the price for the three games if I just wait.

Also, Nyu Media's statement that "No-one's left a goodbye note, but it’s probably and sadly fair to assume that it was because they don't believe we'll meet the $28,000 stretch goal to deliver the limited physical editions." is pure and utter bullshit. I explained exactly why I was withdrawing my pledge. I can't imagine that I'm the only one who did so. They're being willfully ignorant at this point.

To top it off, this kickstarter has sort of bothered me since the beginning. It's what I don't like about the site: a glorified pre-order rather than funding a dream. The games are coming out in English regardless of pledges, and even regardless of whether their goal is met. So this is merely a way to extract maximum money from customers. I was willing to hold my nose and pledge when physical copies seemed possible, but the combination of stalled pledging and the pricing announcement got me to reconsider.
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I think Nyu Media worded the observation in a neutral enough manner even if they're not entirely correct. As well they should since their incentive structure had a clear risk of pulled pledges.

I think it's a bit premature at this point for backers to pull their pledges due to fear of not hitting the physical editions but I'm not aware of any video game project that's surpassed such a large margin after this sort of showing. I would say the folks who pledged early still did the Kickstarter project a favor in drumming up momentum.

I'm a bit surprised at why gaming sites won't cover this Kickstarter though. A lot of more niche-oriented sites should be itching at the news. Perhaps this disconnect in interest is why I don't bother going to most of them.
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Huh, just noticed that they tossed in a free copy of Satazius on Steam for the $45 backers. Never picked it up myself, so that's a nice little bonus for me :mrgreen:
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Imo they got their stretch goals wrong, if they included something physical at $16k.
bVork wrote: To top it off, this kickstarter has sort of bothered me since the beginning. It's what I don't like about the site: a glorified pre-order rather than funding a dream. The games are coming out in English regardless of pledges, and even regardless of whether their goal is met. So this is merely a way to extract maximum money from customers. I was willing to hold my nose and pledge when physical copies seemed possible, but the combination of stalled pledging and the pricing announcement got me to reconsider.
I don't blame Nyu Media for this, if you want someone to point your finger at then it's Valve's fault for their shitty Greenlight program. Since GL came about shmups and other doujins (aswell as similar western made games like Shantae) aren't been published on Steam. Nowadays it's just gimmicky shit that gets Greenlit or games that have drum up support through Kickstarter.

So hopefully Nyu Media will have a better chance of getting onto Steam, but given the lack of press the KS has had and the fact there are plenty of PC Nazis who don't want shmups and other sidescrollers on Steam, who knows.

Maybe this Forum could pin a sticky of worthy STGs / sidescrollers stuck in Greenlight limbo, Heaven's Variant could need the extra votes too
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Anyone mind explaining to me why Steam is the holy bastion of PC gaming? DRM and a silly anchovie system? Woohoo? Just release the damn games standalone.
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trap15 wrote:Anyone mind explaining to me why Steam is the holy bastion of PC gaming? DRM and a silly anchovie system? Woohoo? Just release the damn games standalone.
Because you make a crapload more money if it's released on steam.
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trap15 wrote:Anyone mind explaining to me why Steam is the holy bastion of PC gaming? DRM and a silly anchovie system? Woohoo? Just release the damn games standalone.
I used to love Steam, was easy to get a game, download and play. But now I don't know anymore, it want to update all the time, it wont log in from time to time, and keep crashing alot. I still think Steam is a great service, and getting more unknown games there might help. I know alot of friends that bought Jamestown and loved it (They all Counter Strike nerd and don't play much other games.) and a few of them even got Straniuz. I myself dont care if games get release on other services, but I think getting more STGs on Steam maybe can get more people in to it.
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AntiFritz wrote:
trap15 wrote:Anyone mind explaining to me why Steam is the holy bastion of PC gaming? DRM and a silly anchovie system? Woohoo? Just release the damn games standalone.
Because you make a crapload more money if it's released on steam.
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Not that I see Valve seeing their errors and changing their ways since most Steam users are mindless fanboys and think that Valve can do no wrong and never complain.
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Ganelon wrote:I'm a bit surprised at why gaming sites won't cover this Kickstarter though. A lot of more niche-oriented sites should be itching at the news. Perhaps this disconnect in interest is why I don't bother going to most of them.
Yeah, this is frustrating. It's almost like gaming journalists are lazy assholes who want their stories spoon-fed to them by PR representatives. God forbid they actually do some legwork to scope out a new (or in this case, newly localized) game. I don't see anything that materially differentiates a kickstarter from an early announcement and trailer for an AAA game by a large company (both of which have the very real possibility of being cancelled, misleading, or overpromising), so I really don't understand why the few sites that still bother to cover kickstarters dump them all off into a consolidated weekly post rather than doing a dedicated story on each. Except for sheer laziness.
TrevHead (TVR) wrote:I don't blame Nyu Media for this, if you want someone to point your finger at then it's Valve's fault for their shitty Greenlight program. Since GL came about shmups and other doujins (aswell as similar western made games like Shantae) aren't been published on Steam. Nowadays it's just gimmicky shit that gets Greenlit or games that have drum up support through Kickstarter.
I didn't see it this way at first, but you're right. I love Steam and I agree that Greenlight is a stupid, stupid system. It would make some sense as sort of a backdoor hatch for indie stuff that is completely overlooked by the traditional approval process, but Valve has evidently set it up as the ONLY way to get onto Steam now. That doesn't help anyone. So now we have indie developers doing whatever they possibly can to get exposure, press, and votes. I can see this kickstarter being exactly that, though they seem to have failed in generating much interest outside the shmup faithful AND have also failed those people via the godawful reward tiers.
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