Exploitation, Mondo, & Snuff... where do we draw the line?

[Ed Oscuro]

Horror of Dracula is one of the best Dracula films ever made.

I watched the British version, which is just titled Dracula (I might have that backwards). Peter Cushing is always great (he's great as Sherlock Holmes in other Hammer films too, like Hound of the Baskervilles). I started watching the 1992 Dracula recently, but couldn't get through much of it. I'll get back to it soon, hopefully, but it doesn't have the same draw for me.

[njiska]

Horror of Dracula is one of the best Dracula films ever made.

I watched the British version, which is just titled Dracula (I might have that backwards). Peter Cushing is always great (he's great as Sherlock Holmes in other Hammer films too, like Hound of the Baskervilles). I started watching the 1992 Dracula recently, but couldn't get through much of it. I'll get back to it soon, hopefully, but it doesn't have the same draw for me.

It makes me so happy to find another person that has seen Hammer's Hound of the Baskervilles, let alone loves Cushing role in it. He is the best Sherlock Holmes and really captures just how difficult a person Holmes can be. A lot of the subtle touches, like Holme's correspondance being stuck to the mantle with a knife, were added because Cushing was a fan of the stories and wanted the film to be done right. It's a shame it wasn't popular enough with the British public to justify more.

[xbl0x180]

Ah, but Mondo and Snuff are not art any more than a documentary is a 'movie'. If anything they are the genres of film which should be labeled as truly exploitative since what we call Exploitation is fiction. Also to reiterate, I'm aware that there are bigger fish to fry but this thread is about film.

It is most definitely art. I call it "art," therefore, it is

Would you also boycott the news? People who make a living out of reporting the death and misery of others? I wouldn't refer to a lot of it as "news" no more than hearing mindless gossip around the office about someone's personal tragedies. However, it constitutes as "news" and "free press" somehow, whether it's the yellow journalism of msnbc or foxnews... it's the same s***.

Haha, yes. I even said so in my OP. I'm not gonna watch that sensationalist drivel.

I guess posters here can consider me for the complete opposite of what you posted initially. I don't draw the line at anything for video. I'm all videodromed to the max

[moozooh]

When I was in my teens I collected and watched a lot of sick shit, starting with Pasolini's Salo, concluding with some Ogrish.com and BangedUp.com vids. I think I still have most of it. Thankfully my curiosity in the lowest aspects of humanity was sated at some point, and I pretty much lost interest in it. I think nowadays I'm more likely to be sickened and/or terrified by the kind of pics Ed Oscuro linked to on the previous page.

Then again, I still have fond memories of scaring girl students in the uni with scenes from Hideshi Hino's second Guinea Pig movie. Ah, good times! Also, one of the tortures in the first one included forcing the victim to listen to loud noise music, which I find ironic, seeing how many people today enjoy playing Merzbow from time to time, myself being one of them.

[Khan]

When I was in my teens I collected and watched a lot of sick shit, starting with Pasolini's Salo, concluding with some Ogrish.com and BangedUp.com vids. I think I still have most of it. Thankfully my curiosity in the lowest aspects of humanity was sated at some point, and I pretty much lost interest in it. I think nowadays I'm more likely to be sickened and/or terrified by the kind of pics Ed Oscuro linked to on the previous page.

Then again, I still have fond memories of scaring girl students in the uni with scenes from Hideshi Hino's second Guinea Pig movie. Ah, good times! Also, one of the tortures in the first one included forcing the victim to listen to loud noise music, which I find ironic, seeing how many people today enjoy playing Merzbow from time to time, myself being one of them.

Ah man I remember those sites dont forget b0g.org I think alot of this kind of material was made because people were always curious and wanted to be shocked, through my years I have seen alot of sick shit there was the russian kids who were going around abducting men/women/children then killing them in the most brutal fashion slowly the video that got leaked showed them using a hammer on the guys skull who was alive and trying to crawl then jamming a screw driver into the guys skull and abdomen while whirling it around and even laughing during the whole event. Then theres the countless execution videos around one with the mexican drug wars where two guys get their heads chainsawed off while explaining on camera how they were from a rival faction. The one video that I can say I have never watched and will NEVER watch is the cat burn one.....I can honestly say I shed a tear just reading the description to it the cat is just such a beautiful one too.

[LSU]

Yeah it was Val Lewton, but he was American and did his work for RKO Pictures in the 40s. A truly talented horror pioneer. I love horror from this era because of how the limits of the hays code forced them to get creative.

If you like Lewton's films that he produced, give Curse Of The Demon at try (also known as Night Of The Demon in a slightly different cut) - I don't think Lewton was directly involved in this one but it's directed by Jacques Tourneur who also directed Cat People (and others) for Lewton. Curse of the Demon is easily my favourite 50's horror movie. It's absolutely dripping in atmosphere and really plays on the fears within the mind.

(And yes - Cushing in Hound Of The Baskervilles is superb!)

[BIL]

Peter Cushing love makes me happy. He and Christopher Lee were habitually awesome in Hammer Horror films.

edit: btw, Hobo with Shotgun isn't what I'd associate with this topic either. It's basically a (more) tongue in cheek Robocop. Ultra-violent action movie with black comedy overtones and themes of social decay.

[xbl0x180]

Peter Cushing was Admiral Tarkin in the original Star Wars! He really only had the one line, but I was gobsmacked to recognise him years later from the old Hammer Horror that Anchor Bay was distributing in the 90s and early 2000s.

"In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances"

[drauch]

When I was in my teens I collected and watched a lot of sick shit, starting with Pasolini's Salo, concluding with some Ogrish.com and BangedUp.com vids. I think I still have most of it. Thankfully my curiosity in the lowest aspects of humanity was sated at some point, and I pretty much lost interest in it. I think nowadays I'm more likely to be sickened and/or terrified by the kind of pics Ed Oscuro linked to on the previous page.

Then again, I still have fond memories of scaring girl students in the uni with scenes from Hideshi Hino's second Guinea Pig movie. Ah, good times! Also, one of the tortures in the first one included forcing the victim to listen to loud noise music, which I find ironic, seeing how many people today enjoy playing Merzbow from time to time, myself being one of them.

Ah man I remember those sites dont forget b0g.org I think alot of this kind of material was made because people were always curious and wanted to be shocked, through my years I have seen alot of sick shit there was the russian kids who were going around abducting men/women/children then killing them in the most brutal fashion slowly the video that got leaked showed them using a hammer on the guys skull who was alive and trying to crawl then jamming a screw driver into the guys skull and abdomen while whirling it around and even laughing during the whole event. Then theres the countless execution videos around one with the mexican drug wars where two guys get their heads chainsawed off while explaining on camera how they were from a rival faction. The one video that I can say I have never watched and will NEVER watch is the cat burn one.....I can honestly say I shed a tear just reading the description to it the cat is just such a beautiful one too.

This is why I hate the internet. It's too easy to find whatever nasty (real) shit you want and distribute it to others.