Retro consoles and video capturing set up

[Fudoh]

The ABT102 has become kinda hard to find. It's probably not worth getting as VP20 or VP30 without one in hope to find the card later on. On the other hand I've seen VP30 units with the ABT102 go for less than 200 EUR, which is quite ok.

I would not recommend the XRGB-2+ for use with digital displays (LCD/Plasma). The picture is unstable. That can partly be solved by using an Extron RGB interface with the 2+, but the results are still depending on your display. Also the XRGB does not provide a framerate conversion like the CGA/VGA converter does, so will eventually run into much more problems (like your LCD not liking the 59.1Hz from a MVS and so on...).

In your setup you can simply replace the CGA/VGA scaler with the XRGB, but you have to add a 1:2 VGA splitter in order to keep your playing chain seperated from your capturing chain.

[Pyongyang]

My thoughts exactly on trying to find the card after buying one. That said for the price it could be fun to buy and just mess around with and try to learn from using it. I'll have a think about that one...

Interesting to know the XRGB-2+ doesn't like LCD screens much or MVS. That's strange, did the original XRGB-2 and the 3 not have the same issues? Would be strange to buy a device like the 2+ only to have to buy another device to straighten things out. Those Extron devices aren't cheap either.

Good to know though that in future I can take the CGA/VGA out of the chain and replace it with something beefier.

[Fudoh]

Interesting to know the XRGB-2+ doesn't like LCD screens much or MVS.

It's not the XRGB which dislikes the MVS, it's the LCD which has problems with non standard refresh rates.

Would be strange to buy a device like the 2+

please don't forget that the 2plus is 10 years old now. It was targeted at PC CRT users and nobody else.

[Pyongyang]

Interesting to know the XRGB-2+ doesn't like LCD screens much or MVS.

It's not the XRGB which dislikes the MVS, it's the LCD which has problems with non standard refresh rates.

Would be strange to buy a device like the 2+

please don't forget that the 2plus is 10 years old now. It was targeted at PC CRT users and nobody else.

Per your advice I've put the XRGB-2+ off the shopping list and I'm going to look at something else, not sure what yet. I did buy a VP20 clone tonight though just to play with and learn from. You're information website is bad for my wallet!

[RetroKyth]

Hi all,

I too am trying to get the Hauppague HDPVR (Gaming Edition) capturing retro consoles and was hoping to run some ideas by you all.

The device makers have told me the issue is that the HDPVR is expecting 30 frames per sec consisting of 30 odd fields per second and 30 even fields per second, and that the the older gaming systems are using only odd or only even fields. They also said that the HD PVR works best with 480p resolutions or higher, and this might be an issue as well.

I recently purchased (currently still shipping):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NS ... 00_details
(to upscale) and
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004VV ... 00_details
(to turn the resulting HDMI into component HD, which is what the HD PVR takes as inputs)

I think this will bring the resolution to proper HD that the HDPVR will understand, but I'm not sure if this will address the frame rate issue: I might have to buy a separate time base corrector. Do you think this is enough to get it to work? Thanks!

[blizzz]

Could someone explain to me how I connect a SNES to the Vigatec FX2? Would a simple Scart > RGB Cinch adapter do the job or must I use the SyncStrike and somehow connect the RGBS pins with the FX2. I'm also trying to find out if it outputs VGA ( > SLG3000 > Monitor) and YPrPb Component ( > capture card) at the same time.

I'm still searching for the linedoubler, so if someone has one for sale please pm me.

[Fudoh]

Wrong thread ?

Anyway: SNES > Scart to Cinch adapter cable > FX2 works fine.

Both outputs are active at the same time, but only IN THE SAME COLORSPACE, so if you set the menu to YUV output, you get YUV on the Cinch outputs and YUV on the DSub15 output. If you set to RGBHV, you get RGBHV on the Cinch set and RGBHV on the DSub15 connector.

[drunkninja24]

If you aren't concerned about RGB, this is the card I use for video capture/streaming from older consoles:

http://www.avermedia-usa.com/AVerTV/pro ... b=APDriver

Works great with 240p signals over composite and S-Video with the latest driver updates. Played through Link to the Past recently on my twitch.tv stream using the device and didn't have any issues, and input lag seemed to be quite minimal.

[dieKatze88]

If you aren't concerned about RGB, this is the card I use for video capture/streaming from older consoles:

http://www.avermedia-usa.com/AVerTV/pro ... b=APDriver

Works great with 240p signals over composite and S-Video with the latest driver updates. Played through Link to the Past recently on my twitch.tv stream using the device and didn't have any issues, and input lag seemed to be quite minimal.

Fuck now I've got a problem. I have the old drivers with the HDCP bypass bug, but I can't seem to get 240p to work on them, but then you have the ability to stream the PS3.

The new drivers do 240p over S-Video? Do they do RGBs over the Component input? How about 240p over said input. I know 480i works, but we all know the typical story on that.

Also, this card is lagless for progressive scan previewing, it does have 1 frame of lag for deinterlaced video. (I tested that personally)

[drunkninja24]

If you aren't concerned about RGB, this is the card I use for video capture/streaming from older consoles:

http://www.avermedia-usa.com/AVerTV/pro ... b=APDriver

Works great with 240p signals over composite and S-Video with the latest driver updates. Played through Link to the Past recently on my twitch.tv stream using the device and didn't have any issues, and input lag seemed to be quite minimal.

Fuck now I've got a problem. I have the old drivers with the HDCP bypass bug, but I can't seem to get 240p to work on them, but then you have the ability to stream the PS3.

The new drivers do 240p over S-Video? Do they do RGBs over the Component input? How about 240p over said input. I know 480i works, but we all know the typical story on that.

Also, this card is lagless for progressive scan previewing, it does have 1 frame of lag for deinterlaced video. (I tested that personally)

The method I use to stream from my PS3 is to use XSplit desktop streaming, and set it to stream the AverMedia window. Allows me to stream my PS3 without worrying about HDCP. Works pretty well, this is an example from when I streamed FFXIII-2 from my PS3 a few days ago: http://www.twitch.tv/drunkninja/b/307190814 (the slight choppiness is mostly due to my net connection).

But yeah, the new drivers accept 240p over S-Video and Composite fine. Not sure if it does RGBs over component, 240p over component still doesn't work though, I tried it.

[blizzz]

If you aren't concerned about RGB, this is the card I use for video capture/streaming from older consoles:

http://www.avermedia-usa.com/AVerTV/pro ... b=APDriver

Works great with 240p signals over composite and S-Video with the latest driver updates. Played through Link to the Past recently on my twitch.tv stream using the device and didn't have any issues, and input lag seemed to be quite minimal.

I'm using an AVerMedia H727 which should have identical video input as your card and AmarecTV for viewing and recording. Quality is good for S-Video but not too great. I hope that going the RGB > Linedoubler > Component route will give me better results.

Here's what it looks like for me:


And that's what a linedoubled RGB signal might look like: