Only in gender.maxlords wrote:There's definitely a difference between a statue like that and the dolls (figures) that Elixer is talking about.
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote: ALso, this is how SKykid usually posts
Nah, you can call em whatever you want, dolls/figures etc, but your Sprit statue is much the same thing. It's a static object sculpted to represent a fictional character - what it's made of and whether it says 'statue' on the box is neither here nor there. The only difference is that it's not an anime chick with her tits out. Beyond that, it's basically the same thing.maxlords wrote:No I mean in the composition. I'm talking about the difference between a figure and a statue. Not the content itself.
Unless you're saying that statuary should be considered dolls too? Then we're gonna get into a whole different tangent
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote: ALso, this is how SKykid usually posts
I'll give you that. The wider the definition the more things fit under it's purview. Just saying that if you get too wide, you're saying that dolls are equivalent to this, which I'd think we'd ALL argue is not the case (even though they are all representations of a figure, character or person) :Skykid wrote:Nah, you can call em whatever you want, dolls/figures etc, but your Sprit statue is much the same thing. It's a static object sculpted to represent a fictional character - what it's made of and whether it says 'statue' on the box is neither here nor there. The only difference is that it's not an anime chick with her tits out. Beyond that, it's basically the same thing.maxlords wrote:No I mean in the composition. I'm talking about the difference between a figure and a statue. Not the content itself.
Unless you're saying that statuary should be considered dolls too? Then we're gonna get into a whole different tangent
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote: ALso, this is how SKykid usually posts
And the difference is?Skykid wrote:^ That's classical art, Anime figurines are three-dimensional pornography.
Just saying.... . Might be based on a person...I don't know. Modern statuary is modern art too, and so are figurines...and to a lesser extend, dolls and action figures. The wider your statement the closer you get to equating Barbie with David.It's a static object sculpted to represent a fictional character
A true statement. But when does the classification of toy cross the line to art instead? I think that's what Skykid and I are discussing.JoshF wrote:This thread is funny. They're called toys. I own a couple toys and I even...play with them, by posing them and then drawing them. Toys that can't be posed are still toys, like Boyd's Bears or naked anime chicks. Anime chicks that can't be posed are played with by looking at them, and hands also come into play and let's not pretend otherwise.
By these definitions the following is true:dictonary.com wrote: doll
–noun
1.
a small figure representing a baby or other human being, especially for use as a child's toy.
figure
–noun
11.
a representation, pictorial or sculptured, especially of the human form: The frieze was bordered with the figures of men and animals.
stat·ue
–noun
a three-dimensional work of art, as a representational or abstract form, carved in stone or wood, molded in a plastic material, cast in bronze, or the like.
MX7 wrote:I'm not a fan of a racist, gun nut brony puking his odious and uninformed arguments over every thread that comes up.
Drum wrote:He's also a pederast. Presumably.
A true statement. But when does the classification of toy cross the line to art instead?
So... if I felt comfortable "playing" with that, it'd be a doll?maxlords wrote:I'll give you that. The wider the definition the more things fit under it's purview. Just saying that if you get too wide, you're saying that dolls are equivalent to this, which I'd think we'd ALL argue is not the case (even though they are all representations of a figure, character or person) :Skykid wrote:Nah, you can call em whatever you want, dolls/figures etc, but your Sprit statue is much the same thing. It's a static object sculpted to represent a fictional character - what it's made of and whether it says 'statue' on the box is neither here nor there. The only difference is that it's not an anime chick with her tits out. Beyond that, it's basically the same thing.maxlords wrote:No I mean in the composition. I'm talking about the difference between a figure and a statue. Not the content itself.
Unless you're saying that statuary should be considered dolls too? Then we're gonna get into a whole different tangent
And after all that....Elixer's figures are still dolls.
I don't think the word art has any use in communication except as a synonym for drawings and paintings. Otherwise, it's just an attempt to give weight to what the speaker enjoys. Statements like "The Spirit is super-cool!" are easily dismissed, but when you say "The Spirit is art," well, now it's something everyone should think is cool and you're an art connoisseur.JoshF wrote:A true statement. But when does the classification of toy cross the line to art instead?
It's hard to say because the word art doesn't have a set definition. It's the same as if you typed "But when does the classification of toy cross the line to 23r5839 instead?"
RegalSin wrote:You can't even drive across the country Naked anymore
Figures are typically an abbreviation of figurine by the people who buy them, and they're almost always PVC, so we're actually in agreement. See here:Figurines - Artistic statuary, usually made of ceramic, but also sometimes made of stone, PVC or other molded or cut material. A porcelain bust of Sonic the Hedgehog or Beethoven would fit into this category.
There is absolutely no difference between this and this. They're both of non-existent characters; are not made "to be played with"; are not aimed at kids due to their price, and are based off a pose or piece of art.I'd say there IS a bit of a disctinction with statues at least. PVC figurines are closer to dolls but I'd still consider em separate. But for example I have this statue:
ROFL!Joe T. wrote:If only someone could get Neo Geo legend, Master Tasuke to clear the air on this debate. I would consider him an expert since he's married to a doll. He might even regale us with stories of how his "sweet 16 little sister" 1cc'ed Blazing Star.
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote: ALso, this is how SKykid usually posts
Haha, yeah. "I may be a nerd, but at least I don't collect DOLLS!!!"greg wrote:Every one of us is a nerd in some way. Why be so divisive?
Yo, we do care if it's My Little Pony.greg wrote: I don't care if it's anime figures or My Littlle Pony.
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote: ALso, this is how SKykid usually posts
Yes, and I want a little plastic pony comb to stroke their shiny pony hair.Blackbird wrote:What's that Skykid? You really do care for My Little Pony? What a nice guy! Don't you just want to give them a big hug ^_^?
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote: ALso, this is how SKykid usually posts
I understand your destinction, but the fact that grown men want to collect either is the creepy part.greg wrote:OK, On the LEFT is a Sailor Moon DOLL. On the RIGHT is a Sailor Moon FIGURE.
I think the differences are obvious. The figure on the right is not made to be played with. The limbs don't move, the hair cannot be combed, and you just can't imagine a little girl cuddling with some hard plastic that requires a stand, can you?
This.Vyxx wrote:I understand your distinction, but the fact that grown men want to collect either is the creepy part.
Yeah, a grown man who's really into Sailor Moon is kinda weird, I admit. But I'm sure I have some figures you'd be jealous of.Vyxx wrote:I understand your destinction, but the fact that grown men want to collect either is the creepy part.
