My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

[Ghegs]

It is amusing to see how the anti-pony people are all SERIOUS BUSINESS, spewing accusations of all kinds and defending their own macho man manliness, while the other side is just enjoying a silly tv show. Lighten up, you guys.

And Never_Scurred, cut back on the constant gif spam. It's getting annoying.

[Skykid]

I heard on the radio (it was a broadcast run by male and female homosexuals) that most homophobic bunch are homo dudes themselves (various homo subcultures against each other, since not everybody can afford to be gay, not everybody feels like wearing Tom of Finland style outfits and so on). Things going on these boards remind me of that broadcast every now and then.

Suggesting that a man is 'overcompensating' for a latent homosexuality by insinuating that it's odd for other male adults to be engaged by cartoons made for infant and pre-teen girls is absurd. A typical male has just as much right to be surprised - and yes, given the scenario, even poke fun at the premise - without being lambasted for having a totally appropriate reaction.

Getting real for a second, I'm sure there is entertainment value in the show. It appears, at a glance, a well made programme and of significant quality compared to most. It doesn't make you gay if you watch it, but it does place you outside of (what are considered) social norms.

Folks might say that's unfair and I wouldn't argue - but that's just the way it is.

Grown men watching My Little Pony -> Unusual.

Grown men poking fun at other grown men watching My Little Pony -> Acceptable.

I don't make the rules, but that's kinda how it is.

[Specineff]

I think it's irrational of you not going to see Inception in the theater for not liking Nolan's work (I think that was the reason), but that doesn't make it acceptable for me to make fun of you. Also, you missed Obiwanshinobi's point completely.

[Zeether]

Correction for PCEFX: Filmation did She-ra. Funimation is a US company that distributes anime. [/offtopic]

[drauch]

Why are we bashing My Little Pony when it's okay to spend like hundreds of dolla on a PCB where you control 13 year old girls who shoot pumpkins and giant cows; or it's okay to shoot insects as a princess on top of a giant rhinocerous beetle?

Friendship is magic.

[Skykid]

I think it's irrational of you not going to see Inception in the theater for not liking Nolan's work (I think that was the reason), but that doesn't make it acceptable for me to make fun of you. Also, you missed Obiwanshinobi's point completely.

I may have got the wrong end of the stick (not a euphemism.)

[Vyxx]

Correction for PCEFX:[/offtopic]

Nobody corrects PC Engine Fan X!, not even PC Engine Fan X!

[renardqueenston]

it's just a cute TV show with fun jokes, good writing (moreso as the series progresses) and entertaining animation; it's easy to hate on the grounds of "you aren't the target audience and that is creepy" and "here are images which i have obtained from a primarily pornographically-concerned imageboard" (is this even valid? i mean, people draw porno of everything, it's the internet )

the team does a great job with the show and puts a lot of love into it. they're at base with the fans and that's rad. i'd be a lot less likely to stick up for it if it were just a cash cow (and it's surprising that it's not given the franchise it's based on), but since the people behind it are just so down-to-earth and on the same level as the viewers and really putting something into it, i can't help but back them up.

me and my girlfriend watch new episodes when they come out, and it's just plain fun. it's really instilled with that feeling of being a kid again and it just fills me with fuzzy nostalgia and puts a smile on my face.

[Blackbird]

OK people, I understand that you don't like MLP, but do you really need to make an entirely new thread so that you can requote my post and again generalize my person and other fans of the show as perverts and furries?

I think this is becoming mean-spirited.

I thought I was fairly clear in explaining that I liked it because it reminded me of the old "wacky" cartoons like The Animaniacs and Looney Toons. Am I a furry for liking Bugs Bunny, or Daffy Duck? I really don't see how MLP is that different from other cartoons that are universally regarded as classics, except for the fact that it has attracted a few strange fans.

Edit: Oh hi Renard! Happy belated birthday, dude. (If you didn't catch my email earlier).

[renardqueenston]

Am I a furry for liking Bugs Bunny, or Daffy Duck?

yes, but i'm only saying that to bother you (thanks for the b-day wish, man, hahaha)

[Vyxx]

Am I a furry for liking Bugs Bunny, or Daffy Duck? I really don't see how MLP is that different from other cartoons that are universally regarded as classics, except for the fact that it has attracted a few strange fans.

and the fact that one can be enjoyed by all ages and one is for 6 year old girls.

[Mortificator]

I heard on the radio (it was a broadcast run by male and female homosexuals) that most homophobic bunch are homo dudes themselves

By that logic, the most anti-gay bashing & pro-LGBT rights homosexuals are secretly straight.

Why are we bashing My Little Pony when it's okay to spend like hundreds of dolla on a PCB where you control 13 year old girls who shoot pumpkins and giant cows; or it's okay to shoot insects as a princess on top of a giant rhinocerous beetle?

The difference is that in an action game, the gameplay is much more of a determinant of the level of maturity than the graphics are. If you made a pwad that Barney-fied Doom's visuals - which has actually been done - the game system is still challenging. The Barney show, though... TV and film's maturity is based on the story and characterization, and there's nothing Barney offers on that front to engage anyone but the very young or mentally challenged.

I haven't watched and can't evaluate this new show, though.

[neorichieb1971]

I don't understand the connection to MLP and being gay at all. The connection I'm worried about is the addictive quality of the show which makes grown up men shout its praises.

Seriously, after all this discussion i'm kinda intrigued to watch it, but I'm scared i'll fall into my own stereotypical doom. For that reason, i'm standing on my own side of the fence and I'm still throwing sticks and rocks over the other side

Lets say the worst happens and in 10 years time 5% of the male population is tuning into MLP every day. It might not be the end of the world, but it certainly wouldn't be a world like the world today. So, I would personally feel better if MLP fans (at least the ones we are talking about) went under their rock and kept it to themselves. My 2c.

[Elixir]

The difference is that this is a forum for shmups, and if it is a shmup, regardless of how one plays or obtains or enjoys said game, it belongs here.

MLP or furry fanboy whiteknighting does not. Wouldn't you agree, ?

[renardqueenston]

Am I a furry for liking Bugs Bunny, or Daffy Duck? I really don't see how MLP is that different from other cartoons that are universally regarded as classics, except for the fact that it has attracted a few strange fans.

and the fact that one can be enjoyed by all ages and one is for 6 year old girls.

faust outright said that she wanted to de-polarize the series; while the franchise itself is something aimed at young girls, the show is not solely written for them. it's filled with slapstick humor, non sequiturs, and even outright alcohol references. they're doing with this show what was done with looney tunes; they're making it accessible to everybody. it's very easy to get turned away by the first few episodes, as the accidental demographic had not yet been found in full, but once it was, the writers and directors fully acknowledged it.

like i said, it's easy to hate, especially when your argument is "made for little girls"; the same can be said about a ton of video games, books, films, and so on that you otherwise wouldn't bat an eye at. in this case it's just totally a surface thing because of the franchise.

The difference is that this is a forum for shmups, and if it is a shmup, regardless of how one plays or obtains or enjoys said game, it belongs here.

MLP or furry fanboy whiteknighting does not. Wouldn't you agree, ?

i'd disagree, actually, since this is the Off Topic forum, which rather clearly states "A place where you can chat about anything that isn't to do with shmups!" i'm not fanboy whiteknighting here, i'm just standing up for something that i enjoy for pretty perfectly valid reasons; doesn't white knighting sound more like "leave it alone, it's awesome!" without reason, much like dumping hate on something without reason? i'm just defending what i feel is solid creative work from rad people.

(oh no, my avatar was used against me, what a horrible fate )

[Vyxx]

You guys are watching cartoons for 6 YEAR OLD GIRLS.

ENOUGH SAID. GROW UP.

[renardqueenston]

GROW UP.

being somebody that works with creative media for a living i'll just say:

nah

[Blackbird]

Argh, you are seriously pissing me off. Haven't you ever seen a Disney movie? Have you any grasp of the notion of "all ages" or "crossover appeal"? It's the same damn thing.

I WATCH A SHOW INTENDED FOR CHILDREN THAT ALSO APPEALS TO ADULTS. GET OVER IT.

[Vyxx]

I WATCH A SHOW INTENDED FOR CHILDREN

and you seriously enjoy it.
Scary.


hey my 2 year old daughter likes Barbies too, do you like 'em?

[renardqueenston]

hey my 2 year old daughter likes Barbies too, do you like 'em?

nah but i liked kirby's epic yarn and yoshi's story, that's pretty much the same idea, right?

[Blackbird]

I can see you won't even try to see my point of view at all. Done with you, troll.

[Vyxx]

I can see you won't even try to see my point of view at all. Done with you, troll.

Hey man, I can understand from a 2 year old girls point of view. A grown man on the other hand, LOLZ

[Specineff]

The difference is that this is a forum for shmups, and if it is a shmup, regardless of how one plays or obtains or enjoys said game, it belongs here.

MLP or furry fanboy whiteknighting does not. Wouldn't you agree, ?

You know you can click any and all other threads in this forum, and are not obligated to check this one, under any circumstance, Elixir? Or that the rest of the forum members are not required to post stuff that caters to your sensibilities only?

Seriously, man. No need to take it so harshly. Many other forum members and myself have noticed how much you've changed for the better (you were quite a pain when you first joined), and now we see some prejudiced trolling from you? You've proven to be better than this.

and the fact that one can be enjoyed by all ages and one is for 6 year old girls.

Objection. A show that has referenced Doctor Who, Benny Hill, Lewis Carroll, the Road Runner cartoons, booze, metrosexuality and Metal Gear Solid cannot be aimed to that kind of demographic only.

Also, keep in mind that some of these grown men enjoying a cartoon right now, may end up being fathers of little boys and girls who'll request them to watch those and other shows with them as they are growing up. Boys and girls that need to know that growing up doesn't necessarily mean becoming a boring person.

[neorichieb1971]

Specineff,

MLP is a cartoon and its a subjective matter if one over the age of 12 likes it or not.

But you have to admit linking these cartoons with persuasive comments to get others to watch them is a bit much. My response to that link was one of disbelief and then the subject matter gets pushed and justified making me out to be the one thats not normal.

When I come to this forum, if the subject matter is a shmup and it has MLP theme to it then I can accept or decline to get involved with that particular game. But when its a cartoon aimed at little girls. I think to myself, Its not a shmup, I'm not a little girl. Let it be enjoyed by its intended target audience and leave it at that. I did click on the link, I saw what I expected to see and I closed it out immediately. Anyone who gets off on that subject matter at that age has clearly got a problem. There are millions and millions of other things they could be doing instead of that.

I'll let out a little secret of my own. I enjoy photography and video and my subject matter is steam trains. You don't see me pushing that on people here because I don't expect the return will be a positive nature. Do you get my meaning?

[Elixir]

You know you can click any and all other threads in this forum, and are not obligated to check this one, under any circumstance, Elixir? Or that the rest of the forum members are not required to post stuff that caters to your sensibilities only?

I feel partially responsible for the thread's existence considering I was the one who originally brought the MLP thing up in another thread.

A negative opinion of something is not trolling. If you want to know more, read this.

I just can't stand the fanbase. It's creepy and disgusting and the people who are into this shit are bandwagoning closet furries who jump on by word of mouth. It has nothing to do with the director or artist's history, or any fabricated excuse you'd like to use, and no amount of justification is going to make me tolerate people who enjoy this show. Moreover, tolerate people who are gullible enough to get sucked in by these kinds of current trends. It isn't trying to annoy or provoke anyone, I just can't stand this fanbase's existence, nor this show, due to the hilarious stereotypical overtones it has.

I'm going to stop talking about MLP now, and I hope everyone else does too. End of.

[drunkninja24]

But you have to admit linking these cartoons with persuasive comments to get others to watch them is a bit much.

Why is this exactly? In my case in the other thread, rancor asked for recommendations from fans, and I gave mine. I really don't see what's wrong with a fan of the show recommending others check it out or offering suggestions on specific episodes to watch. How is it any different than for any other tv show/movie/video game/etc?

And outside of my avatar and a brief stint in the April Fools thread, I have made no other reference to MLP anywhere on this forum. Personally, I actually did want to make a thread for fans of the show here for quite a while, but I avoided it because I knew that the result would be....well, this thread. In the end, I figure the people who are genuinely curious will simply ask someone they know to be a fan or find out on their own.

[duckman]

At least MLP fans don't crossdress like Lucky Star fans do.

[Ghegs]

I'll let out a little secret of my own. I enjoy photography and video and my subject matter is steam trains. You don't see me pushing that on people here because I don't expect the return will be a positive nature.

Why wouldn't it be? We have such threads about board games, model aircraft, RC helicopters, collecting toys, a guy talking about his radio show, people posting artwork and music they've created and so on and so forth. I'm sure a thread where you've posted some of the pictures you've taken or links the videos would fit right in. It's a shame if people are reluctant to talk about a harmless thing they enjoy just because they're afraid other people on the internet won't approve of it.

I don't see pushing happening here. Some ask "Why do you watch this?" and others say "It's a fun show, watch some episodes." That's not pushing, that's replying.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Correction for PCEFX: Filmation did She-ra. Funimation is a US company that distributes anime. [/offtopic]

Yep, you've got me there. Yes, I really did mean to say "Filmation" rather than Funimation. Close enough but no cigar for me. ^_~

Filmation was known for producing a lot of Saturday morning cartoon series back in the 1970s-1980s. Ah, the nostalgic memories of watching them back in the day.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Obiwanshinobi]

I heard on the radio (it was a broadcast run by male and female homosexuals) that most homophobic bunch are homo dudes themselves (various homo subcultures against each other, since not everybody can afford to be gay, not everybody feels like wearing Tom of Finland style outfits and so on). Things going on these boards remind me of that broadcast every now and then.

Suggesting that a man is 'overcompensating' for a latent homosexuality by insinuating that it's odd for other male adults to be engaged by cartoons made for infant and pre-teen girls is absurd. A typical male has just as much right to be surprised - and yes, given the scenario, even poke fun at the premise - without being lambasted for having a totally appropriate reaction.

I wasn't being that specific. Male homosexuals were just an example of demographics divided into "subcultures of alienation" particulary hostile against each other.
Coming from people whose affection for modern shmups with benefit of the inventory has been ridiculed with all wit and subtlety internet can muster, picking on adult MLP fans can be easily considered a case of throwing shit back in direction where it's most likely to land on somebody who gives a fuck. Why's that so? Because dealing with people more akin to you than you'd like to admit, it's easier to strike them where it hurts. Touhou bashing is wearing thin as Touhou games are about as naughty as mainstream shoujou manga (as far as I can tell). But hey, that's when people with MLP avatars come in handy. You're not gonna try that shit with Modern Warfare followers after all since this whole puny forum doesn't have enough power to raise their blood pressure for even a split second. They just don't give a damn whether you are into shmups for the gameplay or the artwork.