Shmups Forum Leaderboards System

[CStarFlare]

Bumping!

If anyone is interested, I've thrown my tracker online. Would love to have some people use it and let me know what you think.

http://www.restartsyndrome.com/

[hail good sir]

made

[moozooh]

I've fiddled around with the board, and so far it's pretty awesome! I especially love the ability to sort by ship type and so on, that's really useful.

Comments:
— needs "1-ALL" winning condition for looping games;
— needs "ALL (no TLB)" winning condition for games where the appearance of TLB is not guaranteed;
— Yusuke is blank in ESPRa.De.;
— Some Pachi game (I think it's DFK) has duplicate stage entries in the list where there should be bosses;
— it would be good to have pasted scores parsed and cleansed from non-numeric characters automatically—it's very inconvenient to do so manually with truncation in place;
— replace "pic" with "link" as many people, myself included, would prefer to link to videos or MAME replays;
— Espgaluda needs stage 5-2;
— Mushi has blank instead of M-shot.

Keep it up!

[AntiFritz]

Bumping!

If anyone is interested, I've thrown my tracker online. Would love to have some people use it and let me know what you think.

http://www.restartsyndrome.com/

Link doesn't seem to work for me.

[Erppo]

I really like this idea, will register and dig up some scores for it.

Also the register link in the rules page seems to have the wrong URL.

E: Some confusion regarding the clear types of DFKBL. The current choices are ALL, EX ALL and EX Boss, but the game has four different levels of ALL. One without any extra bosses, one with Golden Disaster only, one with Hibachi and finally Zatsuza in Strong style. The board here notates these as ALL, ALL EX, ALL EX2 and ALL EX3.

Also I would separate DFK 1.5 by the styles too, seeing how they have somewhat different scoring potentials and playstyles.

EE: If the star is supposed to mark clears like I think it is, then it's missing from at least Guwange and Crimzon Clover.

[Sapz]

This is awesome, posted a bunch of scores. Great job with this!

Seconding the DFK style split, and requesting a few Psikyo games if you find time to add more.

[Gus]

Added in my Futari scores. Would love to see this used for scoreboards that normally go months with no update (like Futari).

[Sik-07]

Awesome stuff added some of my scores

You've got Guwange's 360 arrange mode scores capped at 8 digits should be 9.

Going off what moozooh said instead of replacing pic with link if you could add an extra option for replays so it shows up as "rpy" instead of "pic" I think that would be better.

[CStarFlare]

I've fiddled around with the board, and so far it's pretty awesome! I especially love the ability to sort by ship type and so on, that's really useful.

Comments:
— needs "1-ALL" winning condition for looping games;
— needs "ALL (no TLB)" winning condition for games where the appearance of TLB is not guaranteed;
— Yusuke is blank in ESPRa.De.;
— Some Pachi game (I think it's DFK) has duplicate stage entries in the list where there should be bosses;
— it would be good to have pasted scores parsed and cleansed from non-numeric characters automatically—it's very inconvenient to do so manually with truncation in place;
— replace "pic" with "link" as many people, myself included, would prefer to link to videos or MAME replays;
— Espgaluda needs stage 5-2;
— Mushi has blank instead of M-shot.

Keep it up!

Including separate boxes for inputs, replays, youtube links, etc. is on my to-do list. I'd like to keep them separate so people know what they're getting when they click a link, but I certainly see the appeal in having more options.

I'm not sure what's up with the blanks in place of certain characers/shot types; both Yusuke and M Shot are showing up for me on the entry boxes and scoreboard filter boxes. Where exactly do you see them missing/what browser are you using?

I'll fix the DFK stage issue - I think I set the length of the stage field too short (damn loops).

As for 1-ALLs and 5-2s and such, I've been putting together the stage lists to match each game's in-game high score table for authenticity purposes and because I'd like everything to be provable with a simple picture of the score table if possible. I'd be interested to hear some feedback from the community on this one - 1-ALLs especially are a big milestone for a lot of people, so I could understand if it's a big deal to omit them.

E: Some confusion regarding the clear types of DFKBL. The current choices are ALL, EX ALL and EX Boss, but the game has four different levels of ALL. One without any extra bosses, one with Golden Disaster only, one with Hibachi and finally Zatsuza in Strong style. The board here notates these as ALL, ALL EX, ALL EX2 and ALL EX3.

Also I would separate DFK 1.5 by the styles too, seeing how they have somewhat different scoring potentials and playstyles.

EE: If the star is supposed to mark clears like I think it is, then it's missing from at least Guwange and Crimzon Clover.

I think the DFKBL clear thing is related to the 1-ALL issue moozooh has, where I've tried to stick the the in-game high score table maybe a bit more than people would like. I'll go back and see if/how the game differentiates between Golden Disaster and Hibachi clears just to be sure I didn't overlook anything.

The stars were kind of a late addition and I really need to clean up how I implement them. I'll fix Guwange and Crimson Clover (and anything else I've missed, I'd guess Battle Garegga's clear flag is missing too) and make sure everyone who's already added ALLs for those get their clear credit. EDIT: Done

For the 1.5 ships, that kind of situation is why I added the ship filter on the score tables. Pink Sweets's characters also have large differences in scoring potential, but I won't add any more modes to that game. More advanced filter options are high on my to-do list, since right now it's impossible to filer all Power ships which is probably more in line with what would be appropriate for DFK. (would also be good for separating Omote and Ura loops since they're an added complexity I didn't really know how to handle)

Thanks for all the feedback guys! I'll get to work on some of the fixes and suggestions today. One other thing that's very close to being added is an option to view your score history in BBCode, for use in threads like Your High Score Game List.

[moozooh]

Including separate boxes for inputs, replays, youtube links, etc. is on my to-do list. I'd like to keep them separate so people know what they're getting when they click a link, but I certainly see the appeal in having more options.

How about three boxes then: "pic", "video", and "input"? Stuff like PC doujin replays will go to the latter, while "video" can be used either for streaming video or actual files without being strictly tied to one option.

Where exactly do you see them missing/what browser are you using?

Opera 11.61. It might be that they aren't being loaded in time or from the first attempt. Many people, including myself, have also had minor troubles with registration not being valid upon the first login attempt. Eventually everybody has been able to login, but pretty much no-one I talked to was able to do it from the first attempt.

As for 1-ALLs and 5-2s and such, I've been putting together the stage lists to match each game's in-game high score table for authenticity purposes and because I'd like everything to be provable with a simple picture of the score table if possible.

Yeah, the problem with pictures is that games like Ketsui or Pachi series don't differentiate between a 1-ALL (which usually means having beat a difficult boss as well as the entire stage before it) and a gameover in early 1-5, for instance. People here commonly recognize it as inconvenient, and I don't think we should go with it as is.

[RNGmaster]

Add Psikyo plz. I need to be on top of one scoreboard.

This is really great and I can see myself using it quite a bit. Sometimes I forget about the games I have scores for, and I guess this'll help.

[Naut]

The current high score should be displayed next to each game in the browse games list, much like your own scores are. Also, make e-mails private.

This site is fantastic, great work.

Many people, including myself, have also had minor troubles with registration not being valid upon the first login attempt. Eventually everybody has been able to login, but pretty much no-one I talked to was able to do it from the first attempt.

If you set your browser to save the username and password for that site off the registration page, it will save and incorrectly input your e-mail and password for the first login attempt.

[TheSoundofRed]

Will there be a formal way to request games to be added to the list?

As others have mentioned, great work on the site.

[marus]

I added a few scores. I like what I see so far.

Some improvements I can think of:

• Raizing games should have an option for the shop type (Type A, Type B, ect.)
• In general, having more options for player interaction would make the scoreboard seem less impersonal - things like being able to search for players or view their posting history for example. Adding fields for the user info page would help with this as well - sections for a short biography, links to a player's blog/website/youtube, ect.
• Like what was mentioned before, it would be nice if the uploader would automatically parse punctuation to make entering scores easier.
• The layout is really ugly. I'm sure that's not a priority right now, but god damn

Anyways this is a cool start. Hopefully more people start using this alongside the high-score threads. It'd be best if something like this could be integrated with the forums, though I'm not sure how the best way to go about that is.

[shmuppyLove]

Registered!

Going to post my Crimzon Clover ALL

[AntiFritz]

How the hell are people getting on to the site?

[shmuppyLove]

How the hell are people getting on to the site?

Bumping!

If anyone is interested, I've thrown my tracker online. Would love to have some people use it and let me know what you think.

http://www.restartsyndrome.com/

Edit: Sorry didn't mean to be dickish, I didn't see earlier where you said you couldn't get to it.

Are you getting an error message when you go to the site? Is the domain name not resolving?

[CStarFlare]

Over 250 scores entered so far. Much more than I expected Big thanks to everyone who's been using it and giving feedback!

So far I've:

-Fixed the clears oversight for Guwange, Crimson Clover, and Battle Garegga.
-Fixed the registration link on the Rules page.
-Fixed Guwange's max score length.
-Added Video and Replay links
-Removed email addresses from user's pages.
-Fixed the DFK 1.5 stage truncation issue.

I also started adding some Psikyo games. I'm not really familiar with most of them, so I've just been referencing the high score tables and info I find from google. If there's any mistakes let me know. (do Psikyo games have loop requirements or do the automatically dump you into the second loop?)

I will adding 1 ALLs where appropriate. Only question is - do I give it clear status along with the entire second loop, or save the star for the 2 ALL?

Will there be a formal way to request games to be added to the list?

Nothing formal at this time. If you want something specific feel free to shoot me an email or PM; if I have any questions about how it needs to be set up I might need some input from you. If there's something special about the game I need to be aware of (such as Gradius III's significantly different home ports) please let me know.

Raizing games should have an option for the ship type (Type A, Type B, ect.)
In general, having more options for player interaction would make the scoreboard seem less impersonal - things like being able to search for players or view their posting history for example. Adding fields for the user info page would help with this as well - sections for a short biography, links to a player's blog/website/youtube, ect.

I'm not very familiar with Raizing either, but from what I can tell from scoreboards here and the arcadia records people reference A/B/C/etc ship types seem to be either ignored or optional. Correct me if I'm mistaken (though the thought of having 8 ships times 3/4 variations is kind of terrifying)

I can definitely add more fields to the user page, and a sort of user search. An overall posting history similar to what we already have for individual game modes should be easy as well.

AntiFritz: I can't think of anything that would cause you to be refused access to the site. I'll PM you.

[NTSC-J]

(do Psikyo games have loop requirements or do the automatically dump you into the second loop?)

No loop requirements, you automatically go to 2-1.

I will adding 1 ALLs where appropriate. Only question is - do I give it clear status along with the entire second loop, or save the star for the 2 ALL?

I think multi-colored stars would be cool. One for 1-ALLs and ALLs with games without a loop, one for 2-ALLs (and 3 or 4-loopers like Dogyuun and Fire Barrel), and one for counterstops maybe.

Also, an overall member ranking would be cool.

Great site, thanks for all the hard work!

[marus]

I'm not very familiar with Raizing either, but from what I can tell from scoreboards here and the arcadia records people reference A/B/C/etc ship types seem to be either ignored or optional. Correct me if I'm mistaken (though the thought of having 8 ships times 3/4 variations is kind of terrifying)

You could just make the shot type be a separate drop down box from the character select. I suppose it's not really necessary, but it would make the table seem more complete.

[CStarFlare]

That could work. I think there's a lot of games that have unique factors that could be useful or even necessary for a satisfactory scoreboard (auto/no auto for Mushihimesama, for example) so I think there may be a need for a flexible "extra" field which could be used for ship type for Raizing games. Added to the list, I suppose.

[BPzeBanshee]

No Raiden games?

Nice system anyway. Keep it up!

[Hagane]

Great stuff, looking very very nice.

Requesting more Psikyo games please (Sengoku Blade, Ace, Gunbird, etc.).

[Alfred]

Thank you CStarFlare. Works really well. I am amazed at some of the scores by other players. Well done guys.

[CptRansom]

This is awesome and I'm really looking forward to seeing more games added and anything else you'll be doing to the site!

[RGC]

Great project! One suggestion: If the score form is submitted with an invalid entry, e.g. "Score can only include numeric characters.", please don't reload the form with all fields reset. Not saying people would get things wrong very often, but when they do it would be less frustrating if an error were generated alongside the invalid field(s) in question.

Keep up the good work!

[Hagane]

Thanks for adding Sengoku Blade!

Here on the forums Marion (Saturn only character) isn't allowed, what is the reason? Should she be taken out of the leaderboards too?

[ebarrett]

Site is awesome, etc

[Chaos Phoenixma]

This is awesome too. Just got on it and starting to fill things out.


But I can't submit all of my Judgment SilverSword scores as the secret ship isn't selectable.


Edit:

Another thing I noticed, though it obviously doesn't really affect us as none of us have even cleared the mode. Muchi Muchi Pork's Manpuku is not a 1 loop mode, but a 2 loop mode. Even though I have not 1cc'd even the normal Arcade game, you can definitely choose second loop stages for Manpuku on Training Mode. I'll check for some more stuff as well.

[CStarFlare]

Does the secret ship in Silversword have a name or is it just "Secret" (for that matter, does the default ship have a name?)

Good catch on Manpuku, it's definitely possible that someone could reach the second loop on 1.01 (it might as well not exist for 1.00). I've fixed the Manpuku stages; I'll have to check if Harahara loops too.

Big thanks for the heads up on these.

Since it's been a while since my last post about this here, I'll highlight some of my activity over the last couple months:

- There are now over 100 games in the system, still adding more. My main goal right now is to finish adding everything that's been nominated to the Top 25 lists.
- Certain games now have an extra entry field for special considerations. This includes Garegga ship types, Mushi Rapid Fire, etc. I think I've hit all the special considerations for preexisting games, but as always if I missed anything whack me on the head and educate me.
- Certain games now have special sub-boards. This includes Style/Loop specific boards for Daifukkatsu, EX On/Off boards for Deathsmiles, and so forth. Again, think I've nailed all of the important ones but if you want something added let me know.

Coming up:
- More games.
- A special clear category for 2-ALLs, clears with special bosses, and the like.
- Fixing score entry so data stays in if the add fails and so it doesn't chock with punctuation.
- Historical listing of all a player's entries.
- Member search?
- Prettying it up.