Drug War + Dog Murder

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I wish I never watched that clip. Really uncomfortable.

[Acid King]

I agree, the raid was appalling, but again...it would never have happened had the girl's father not participated in a murder the day before...thats why the police went there in the first place. Also, the family knowing the dirtbag had killed someone the day before, shielded him and hid the guilty party knowingly in the apartment upstairs.

All this does not change the fact the police f*cked up, I'm not condoning that...but I still throw 60% of the blame on the girl's father and family for hiding a felon that the police were searching for in the house.

Thats why I'm saying its a gray area to me, there were people wrong on both sides. However, children cannot pick their parents, but adults have the mental capacity to choose whether or not to harbor a fugitive or keep an illegal substance in the house.
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That's not a gray area, that just means multiple parties were in the wrong. The dad's a dirtbag and the police fucked up. The father should be charged with a crime if he committed one, blaming him is pointless because that doesn't do anything to fix what caused the death. What can be fixed is how police conduct these kinds of raids and they need to be held accountable for their errors, especially when people wind up dead through no fault of their own.

EDIT: Don't worry though, the infamous Detroit attorney, Geoffrey Fieger has taken the case, he'll make sure that the family of the poor little girl that was killed gets paid millions of dollars for doing the wrong thing. The girl's father a felonious dirt bag that participated in a murder the day before will become a millionaire overnight and move out of Detroit....perhaps next door to you

Scary!!!! If what you say is true about the father, the dad's going to jail along with the guy he helped commit murder. So I'll be having a single middle aged woman move in next door... truly terrifying.

[ROBOTRON]

Scary!!!! If what you say is true about the father, the dad's going to jail along with the guy he helped commit murder. So I'll be having a single middle aged woman move in next door... truly terrifying.

Yup, one that has rugrats and poor taste in the men she chooses to f*ck. You'll all get along famously!

[Acid King]

The subjects of this raid just had their civil suit dismissed. I like this quote from the decision.

The Whitworths rely for their claim on Andrews, which adopted the approach of othercircuit courts holding that “an officer commits an unreasonable, warrantless seizure of property, in violation of the constitution, when he shoots and kills an individual's family petwhen that pet presented no danger and when non-lethal methods of capture would have been successful.” Andrews v. City of West Branch, 454 F.3d 914, 918 (8th Cir. 2006). But that case involved an officer who–while investigating a call about a stray dog–shot and killed,without provocation, a family dog in an enclosed yard that was standing within feet of its owner. Id at 916. But the present case, even viewing facts in the light most favorable to the Whitworths, involves a large dog standing its ground in the doorway that a SWAT team is about to enter, or running around a kitchen toward police officers. Even if the Whitworths’dogs were not acting aggressively, the Whitworths have not produced evidence that eitherof their dogs “presented no danger and [that] non-lethal methods of capture would have been successful.” Id Rather, these dogs, simply by standing their ground or running excitedly in the path through which the officers needed to quickly pass to secure the scene, stood to frustrate the officers’ important objective of securing and searching the house, and presented a risk of attack to passing officers that was great enough to justify a reasonable officer in incapacitating the dogs. The bullet holes in the Whitworths’ property are incidental to officers firing at the Whitworths’ dogs, so they require no separate analysis for reasonableness. The Court concludes on these facts that the officers’ actions were objectively reasonable in this context.

Sounds like dog's doing dog stuff is justification for SWAT to shoot them.