Viper Phase 1 (all versions)

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:37 pm

well all non-jp does

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:37 pm

Transfer my score to the "No-Delay" category.

MJR · Post by **MJR** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:46 pm

Getting better:

3,385,527 - MJR - Stage 4 - PCB

by the way, I'm using PCB's own rapid fire, and it's set to "high speed".

unsane · Post by **unsane** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:26 am

Finally managed a 100% on stage 1&2 a couple times.

No assisted autofire (in-game default):

1,844,365 - unsane - 1-3 - MAME

Ignore the 2mill score, it's from when i was a credit-feeding noob and beat the last boss. I left the score there as incentive to beat it with 1 credit.

MJR · Post by **MJR** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:23 am

DAMN - so close

3,410,858 - MJR - Stage 4 - PCB

I hope this table will be updated soon..

EDIT: I will take a photo once I beat my own top score (4 million+), which I made when I practiced the game on easy setting.. showing it now as it is would be too confusing

MJR · Post by **MJR** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:49 am

I've now topped my own record; I've still to beat Icarus, though:

4,235,642 - MJR - Stage 5 - PCB

unsane · Post by **unsane** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:59 am

Please remove my score since you removed the no-autofire table.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:03 am

MJR wrote:I've now topped my own record; I've still to beat Icarus, though:

4,235,642 - MJR - Stage 5 - PCB

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=16190

MJR · Post by **MJR** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:07 am

[EDIT]

Aa, you mean someone has much higher score than icarus.

OK But please remove images when commenting.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:09 am

MJR wrote:I've still to beat Icarus, though:

lol good luck

unsane · Post by **unsane** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:06 pm

Why do people use an assisted autofire when the game is autofire by default? I know that it shoots even faster, but why use that when the game already has autofire?

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:20 pm

Faster boss destruction.

unsane · Post by **unsane** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:54 pm

SFKhoa wrote:Faster boss destruction.

Right, but i mean, does no one play legit anymore? It's humorous to me that a hiscore competition would use cheat settings. There's autofire in the game! *boggle* Please tell me someone agrees with me so i can sleep at night...

MJR · Post by **MJR** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:55 pm

I use the default PCB autofire.. thats why my scores are crap

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:44 am

unsane wrote:
SFKhoa wrote:Faster boss destruction.

Right, but i mean, does no one play legit anymore? It's humorous to me that a hiscore competition would use cheat settings. There's autofire in the game! *boggle* Please tell me someone agrees with me so i can sleep at night...

Even the world record holder uses "un-official" autofire to gain the highest score.

unsane · Post by **unsane** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:27 am

SFKhoa wrote:Even the world record holder uses "un-official" autofire to gain the highest score.

Isn't that like saying the true world record holding sprinter is one who uses steroids?

I guess i'm gonna have to take this issue to a thread of its own. Or more likely search and find a 10 page one.

Post by **Icarus** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:52 am

Icarus wrote:Request: remove my old score from the board, please.

Request update: above request also includes my STGT '07 score.

sikraiken · Post by **sikraiken** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:20 am

unsane wrote:
SFKhoa wrote:Even the world record holder uses "un-official" autofire to gain the highest score.

Isn't that like saying the true world record holding sprinter is one who uses steroids?

I guess i'm gonna have to take this issue to a thread of its own. Or more likely search and find a 10 page one.

Think of it more like today's sprinters have better running(footwear) technology than they did many many decades ago. ; )

unsane · Post by **unsane** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:19 am

sikraiken wrote:
unsane wrote:Isn't that like saying the true world record holding sprinter is one who uses steroids?
Think of it more like today's sprinters have better running(footwear) technology than they did many many decades ago. ; )

I admit i'm slowly being won over in the spirit of competition, as after all, i'll never know if i'm any good compared to others if i'm competing with a handicap. Since everyone is competing on a level playing field scorewise, it doesn't matter too much.

However i think the real taint to legitimacy is in "1cc lists". For example, do you consider your VP1 ALL in STGT2k7 to be a legitimate 1cc? Y'all were basically playing the game on easymode, since it's an increased autofire rate that was never envisioned or tested for balance by the designers...

sikraiken · Post by **sikraiken** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:31 am

unsane wrote:
sikraiken wrote:
unsane wrote:Isn't that like saying the true world record holding sprinter is one who uses steroids?
Think of it more like today's sprinters have better running(footwear) technology than they did many many decades ago. ; )

I admit i'm slowly being won over in the spirit of competition, as after all, i'll never know if i'm any good compared to others if i'm competing with a handicap. Since everyone is competing on a level playing field scorewise, it doesn't matter too much.

However i think the real taint to legitimacy is in "1cc lists". For example, do you consider your VP1 ALL in STGT2k7 to be a legitimate 1cc? Y'all were basically playing the game on easymode, since it's an increased autofire rate that was never envisioned or tested for balance by the designers...

I could care less about 1ccs for majority of games (including this one) anyway. Arcadia records allow autofire for the most part (unless otherwise specified), so that's what I go with. The competition allowed autofire, I'm not going to put myself at a disadvantage. I could easily 1cc the game without it, my score would take a hit though (I wouldn't be able to get 100% as easily on certain levels unless I started practicing my tapping again). Atleast 10M I could get, I'd say. My autofire run was far from perfect anyway.

Also, since I was playing on "easy mode", feel free to beat my score. : )

unsane · Post by **unsane** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:53 am

sikraiken wrote:Also, since I was playing on "easy mode", feel free to beat my score. : )

I wasn't suggesting the game is easy with enhanced autofire, i'm sure it's still a huge bitch.

It just took me a while to wrap my head around the idea of making an autofire game easier with enhanced autofire. After reading a couple more threads about it i realize it's basically a non-issue.

Dragon1952 · Post by **Dragon1952** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:48 am

I have a Japanese region "New Version" and I need to FLIP the display but there doesn't seem to be a adjustment for that using the TEST mode. Any suggestions?

MrQuan · Post by **MrQuan** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:52 am

Dragon1952 wrote:I have a Japanese region "New Version" and I need to FLIP the display but there doesn't seem to be a adjustment for that using the TEST mode. Any suggestions?

You have the PCB yeah? Just flip the horizontal or vertical plugs that go to your monitor from the chassis. Sometimes it's 2 x two pin plugs, or sometimes just a 4 pin plug and you use a different connection on the PCB to flip.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:56 am

My score was via MAME using the default autofire rate (i.e. slow).

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:34 pm

updated scores, added "in-game fire rate" for members using the game's built-in autofire settings.

Ayanami · Post by **Ayanami** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:40 pm

Icarus requested that his score be removed by the way.

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:40 am

3'085'066 - 4

updated scores, this game still owns me..

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:31 am

3'265'271 - 4 - pcb
finally a new score..!

Post by **spadgy** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:12 pm

Got this game the other day on PCB, and on my first flirtation with it I managed a starter score:

spadgy - 1,536,270 - 4

I played this on PCB - Japanese new version. Now - I've been using the autofire that the PCB was set to. However, in the dip menu it's marked as 'fast-autofire'. Does that count as 'custom autofire'? If so, I might change the setting to normal autofire for chasing the 1CC.

Anyway - here's the picture.

I love this game. Might put a little more into Raiden IV before I really session VP1:NE though...

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:51 pm

its a great game...! The custom autofire only applies if you are using some additional hardware for it, all the in-game settings are fine (high speed being the fastest). The reason for breaking it into two boards is because custom autofire could be the 30 shots a second type (no delay etc), which this game doesn't have as a choice, and that allows you to destroy enemies faster... the world record holder uses it, and personally I don't care either way.