Tube Shooters

[mjclark]

Wow! I'd never even heard of Tempest Tubes but according to this reference http://www.answers.com/topic/tempest-tubes
it was an enhancement kit for the original arcade Tempest.
More will be revealed....

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Tempest X3 is the most addictive PS1 shooting game that I've ever played, and I've played some great import PS1 shooters. It's just awesome! And, you can use the Puchi Carat dial controller with it, although that controller is pretty hard to find.

Also, if you get Atari Anthology, which came out for PC, PS2 and XBOX (and is backwards compatible with the 360) you can play Tempest Tubes, which has different stages from the arcade original, also contained in Atari Anthology.

Regarding S.T.U.N. Runner, I've read that the Lynx port does not allow the player to loop, or go upside down, so I don't know if that would be the best home port.

The Atari Lynx version of S.T.U.N. Runner has the obligatory warp screens for completeness. It's just trying to execute them properly to warp to the higher waves that is a challenge unto itself...that's another story altogether. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[mjclark]

So has anyone played Lattice 200 EC7 on the PSx?
I can't find any footage for it anywhere so not sure whether it's a tube shooter or not...
...Aha-got it now.
Lattice 200ec7 IS a tube shooter but it's it's a totally convex one where you're flying around the outside of a pipe.
Actually I've just played it for a bit and it's awesome. There's so much going on in it, and now it's on the list

[mjclark]

Just added GearToyGear to the list- it looks awesome but I've got to download so many packages to get it to play on my XP machine that I'm not sure yet.
Anyone else played it?

[KidQuaalude]

Wormhole on the Vectrex is a great Gyruss rip-off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_ZF_AHcwlc

Also worth a mention is tube panic on arcade/mame (tho not all levels are tubes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-B7sC_tjcA

[mjclark]

Wormhole on the Vectrex is a great Gyruss rip-off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_ZF_AHcwlc

Also worth a mention is tube panic on arcade/mame (tho not all levels are tubes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-B7sC_tjcA

Aye- added Wormhole to the list, but I guess Tube Panic (in spite of the name) is, like you say not a pure tube shooter. Looks fun though!

[Drum]

Wellllllll if you wanna get super picky then Tempest and its variants aren't pure tube shooters either. Neither is STUN Runner. I say Tube Panic is an honorary inductee.
My awesome contribution: There are tube sections in Star Goose!

EDIT: I guess Revolver 360 might almost qualify as a horizontal tube shooter

[EinhanderZwei]

Another cool tube shooter for the JPN PSX was Squaresoft's iS: internal section...unfortunately, it never did get a proper U.S. PSX release. There was talk about Squaresoft USA of a possibility of bring it out to the USA in 1999-2000 timeline but never came to be.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

This and Tempest 2000 are definitive tube shooters for me. NES port of Gyruss didn't hurt either

[mjclark]

Wellllllll if you wanna get super picky then Tempest and its variants aren't pure tube shooters either. Neither is STUN Runner. I say Tube Panic is an honorary inductee.
My awesome contribution: There are tube sections in Star Goose!

EDIT: I guess Revolver 360 might almost qualify as a horizontal tube shooter

Wooh- I guess your right. I'd completely forgotten that Tempest has those flat webs too, and it's certainly stayiong on the list so Tube Panic and Star Goose had better go on too.
Revolver 360 almost looks like an 3D tube shooter (?) but there's not really any circular motion.
Wonder if there's any isometric tube shooters anywhere too.

[kemical]

I can't believe this thread is missing mention of SEWER SHARK.

[Despatche]

Tempest Tubes was once an unofficial hack. Like Namco with Ms. Pac-Man, Atari eventually approved of it and considered it official some years later.

Tempest, 1981 (Arc)
Tempest Tubes, 1981 (Arc,PC,PS2,Xbox)

What is the logic behind this?

[EinhanderZwei]

I can't believe this thread is missing mention of SEWER SHARK.

Rail shooters are different story... not to mention that Sewer Shark was a good piece o' Sewer Shit

[mjclark]

Tempest Tubes was once an unofficial hack. Like Namco with Ms. Pac-Man, Atari eventually approved of it and considered it official some years later.

Tempest, 1981 (Arc)
Tempest Tubes, 1981 (Arc,PC,PS2,Xbox)

What is the logic behind this?

Seperate games- seperate entries.
What's the objection?

[BrianC]

Tempest Tubes was once an unofficial hack. Like Namco with Ms. Pac-Man, Atari eventually approved of it and considered it official some years later.

Too bad Namco didn't approve Jr. Pac-Man. One of my favorite Pac games.

Tempest, 1981 (Arc)
Tempest Tubes, 1981 (Arc,PC,PS2,Xbox)

What is the logic behind this?

I think this is asking why Tempest is only listed for "Arc" and Tubes is listed for PC, PS2, and Xbox too.

[mjclark]

Tempest, 1981 (Arc)
Tempest Tubes, 1981 (Arc,PC,PS2,Xbox)

What is the logic behind this?

I think this is asking why Tempest is only listed for "Arc" and Tubes is listed for PC, PS2, and Xbox too.

Muy bad- amended

[Treasurance]

Sin and Punishment 2's stage 2 is pretty TUBE

[EinhanderZwei]

What about Tunnel B1?

[mjclark]

What about Tunnel B1?

Nope- tis FPS not shmup and,
as for Sin and Punshment2, the same rules apply as for Omega Boost:

Would Omega Boost on PS1 apply as a "tube shooter"?

Never played it but it looks awesome
However it also looks like it's straight line motion. In other words, if you move your directional input left (for example) then you move in a straight line whereas in a tube shooter if you move your directional input left you would move in a circular path clockwise.
Maybe someone with some applied maths could help us out here

In a tube shooter your "ship" (or whatever it is that's firing) has a radial axis of motion.
Just cos it's a shooter in a tube doesn't mean it's a tube shooter (!)

[BIL]

Omega Boost actually only has two stages set in tubes, btw. The others are all either open-space or ground-based. Control is the same in all, you're basically in a sphere - the tube levels just add forced forward scrolling.

Absolutely killer game.

[mjclark]

Omega Boost actually only has two stages set in tubes, btw. The others are all either open-space or ground-based. Control is the same in all, you're basically in a sphere - the tube levels just add forced forward scrolling.

Absolutely killer game.

Aye Omega Boost tis truly awesome and so's Gamera2000 but that's a different story

[ptoing]

Kenta Cho just released a new tube shmup a few days ago it seems.
Have not played it yet, but judging from the video it's pretty fucking fast D:

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~cs8k-cyu/xn ... dex_e.html

[mjclark]

Kenta Cho just released a new tube shmup a few days ago it seems.
Have not played it yet, but judging from the video it's pretty fucking fast D:

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~cs8k-cyu/xn ... dex_e.html

See 4th post from top of this page where GTG (which was released in August 2009) is already bigged up
I cannot get GearToyGear to run on XP though-I just get the "has encountered a problem" message but it looks rockin'.

[ptoing]

Heh, did not read the whole thread

I have XP as well and I got it to work. Have you installed the latest XNA framework?

[mjclark]

Heh, did not read the whole thread

I have XP as well and I got it to work. Have you installed the latest XNA framework?

Yeah got XPSP3, XNA 3.1, NET Framework 2.0 and it still crashes!!!
Will try it on a different machine- is it any good then?

[Skykid]

S.T.U.N. Runner, 1989 (Arc,Lynx,PS2)

I used to love this as a kid in the arcade. iirc it had a sit down futuristic bike that you tilted left and right to manoeuvre. The graphics were a real eye opener at the time too.

[ptoing]

is it any good then?

I am not convinced by it. It is way too fast most of the time and very confusing. It's like being vomited at basically.
Torus Trooper still is my fave Kenta Cho game.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

I remember when GearToyGear first released 1 to 2 years ago there was another indie game that looked almost identical that released about the same time. I cant remember its name but its commercial and on steam IIRC

[mjclark]

Finally got GearToyGear working on our new machine!!
It's actually fucking brilliant but really quite different from Torus Trooper in terms of gameplay.
Also, as well as being able to move around the circumference of the tube you can move into the middle of it, which kinda stretches our definition of Tube Shooters a bit.

I remember when GearToyGear first released 1 to 2 years ago there was another indie game that looked almost identical that released about the same time. I cant remember its name but its commercial and on steam IIRC

Would love to know what that game is eh?

[Observer]

Finally got GearToyGear working on our new machine!!
It's actually fucking brilliant but really quite different from Torus Trooper in terms of gameplay.
Also, as well as being able to move around the circumference of the tube you can move into the middle of it, which kinda stretches our definition of Tube Shooters a bit.

I remember when GearToyGear first released 1 to 2 years ago there was another indie game that looked almost identical that released about the same time. I cant remember its name but its commercial and on steam IIRC

Would love to know what that game is eh?

Maybe he's confusing it with Audiosurf? I don't recall a game like that on Steam but, given how big it got, I could've missed it.

[ubersaurus]

Web Wars on vectrex count? I believe it does, it's as close as you were getting to Tempest back in the day.