About Twilight and Battle Garegga

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:02 pm

I clicked on this thread hoping for some arbitrary discussion of how Twilight Insanity and Battle Garegga was alike.

Guess I was wrong.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:45 pm

Garegga is the darkest shmup I know.

Dark like yon ancient tome and the pit in the depths of ancient souls.

(/drivel)

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:44 am

KindGrind wrote:It is after playing Ibara quite a lot that I went back to Garegga. The rank didn't bother me as much and I could adjust my vision to see the so called invisibullets that I had plagued against many times before. I can't score competently in it but I have fun when I play it now.

Oh, I totally have fun with Battle Garegga. But the whole system still pisses me off. I wish I could 1cc it without knowing how to manipulate rank and being able to score decently well. I wish that there was less "I have to read a strategy guide to be able to play this game" quality to it. If there were some "how to" demo like what you get in Ikaruga, where it spells out rank and some of the more obscure scoring mechanics out in idiotspeak, I'd probably hate it less. Random hints at game over screen would be nice too.

One of the deepest shooters ever made, and Raizing gives you NOTHING. I hate it. Hate it hate it hate it. Not the game, just the lack of official documentation on how to play the game. It's like giving a jr high student a calculus book that has only the problems with none of the lessons about how to solve them, and expecting the kid to get anywhere with it. It's BULLSHIT.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:49 am

well said

if a "game" is a task to be completed within a set of parameters or rules, it's good to know what those rules are

true raizing fans like toy robots and big-breasted pig women

damnit, where's my old avatar..

Ruldra · Post by **Ruldra** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:19 am

The Garegga handbook explained the game mechanics in detail. The Garegga ST is mostly a translation of the handbook (along with extra info).

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:40 am

i think the fact that it needs a handbook was sort of the point..

when was the handbook released in relation to the arcade game?

KindGrind · Post by **KindGrind** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:27 am

I mean, when people need to hack the eeprom to look at the code and figure out how ranks might work, we're quite far from a "rtfm" kind of deal.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:44 am

the rf aces manual tells you how to get big medals, how to chain in RFJ, but not where the secret bonuses are