Daioujou BLEX and others will be localized

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:19 pm

It's almost like people seem to think that they won't be released in Japan.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:30 pm

just get the japanese 360... chances are, just like 90 percent of all the other us games, they won't be locked even if they do come out here.

besides I don't think you'll even care by then since you'll have been playing them for a year or more by then.

j^aws · Post by **j^aws** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:58 pm

"Izzit cuz im BLEX?"

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:00 pm

That takes me back. About 7 years

ChurchOfSolipsism · Post by **ChurchOfSolipsism** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:43 pm

Strider77 wrote:
besides I don't think you'll even care by then since you'll have been playing them for a year or more by then.

Mh... yeah I'm starting to feel better already. It's not like I haven't thought about this as well, but it feels that much better coming from somebody else.

orange · Post by **orange** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:51 pm

i hope the localized version is easy so i can master it in between games of gears of war 2 and madden

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:58 pm

ChurchOfSolipsism wrote:Actually, in a crooked way this isn't such good news. Now I'm totally having doubts as to getting a Japanese xbox and games (this shit is expensive, after all), but what if they don't release them in the US (and even then, do I have to get an American xbox?) after all? Plus I don't want to wait another year or more until I can finally play Ketsui and Death Smiles cuz I'm a filthy consumer whore.

You already know that hard-core shmuppers already have such JPN region gaming consoles to play such exclusive shmup ports. Just bite the bullet and get a JPN region Xbox 360...then you wouldn't have to play the dreaded and very long waiting game of said 360 shmup ports when they finally debut on day one in the USA. The shmups genre is still considered a very narrow niche genre at best regardless of what localized gaming publishers put out for the masses. They release them as a courtesy to shmups fans because they know such a fanbase still exists. ^_~

Like as if Cave Co. Ltd. will build such official Cave USA and/or Cave European arcade distribution houses for their arcade PCB offerings to get the word out that arcade shmup (and the occasional odd-ball arcade puzzler PCB offering) gaming titles are still alive and well. Means putting more people on the payroll and whatnot to pull if off successfully. Gotta cut the excessive fat off to stay lean and mean to stay in business...hence the reason why Cave doesn't have such outside arcade distro houses in other countries anyways.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Lynx Winters · Post by **Lynx Winters** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:00 pm

antares wrote:
Aegis Wing is awful and Earth Defense Force is a shitty

If you can't have fun playing EDF, you have forgot how to have fun.

Zeether · Post by **Zeether** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:01 pm

2 words:

Fuck. Yeah.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:05 pm

Lynx Winters wrote:If you can't have fun playing EDF, you have forgot how to have fun.

Agreeing with this. Got it due to a goon recommendation and it was totally worth it. Although, this is one of "those" games which is region locked. The US version of EDF won't work on JP consoles, and the JP one, while totally playable despite being in Japanese, has all weapons in Katakana.

Which was a good thing because I know Katakana, but it doesn't really matter since D3 Publisher really didn't put much effort into the game. (ie. there's a sniper rifle that does 2000 damage, and you can unscope with it.)

yojo! · Post by **yojo!** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:16 pm

adversity1 wrote:So...unless Otomedius is really worth it to you, don't jump the gun on a J 360.

and raiden IV ?

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:45 pm

and raiden fighters

antares · Post by **antares** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:39 pm

Lynx Winters wrote: If you can't have fun playing EDF, you have forgot how to have fun.

If you want to have fun with an obscure game try Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan! for Nintendo DS

ChurchOfSolipsism · Post by **ChurchOfSolipsism** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:45 pm

PC Engine Fan X! wrote:
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote:Actually, in a crooked way this isn't such good news. Now I'm totally having doubts as to getting a Japanese xbox and games (this shit is expensive, after all), but what if they don't release them in the US (and even then, do I have to get an American xbox?) after all? Plus I don't want to wait another year or more until I can finally play Ketsui and Death Smiles cuz I'm a filthy consumer whore.
You already know that hard-core shmuppers already have such JPN region gaming consoles to play such exclusive shmup ports. Just bite the bullet and get a JPN region Xbox 360...then you wouldn't have to play the dreaded and very long waiting game of said 360 shmup ports when they finally debut on day one in the USA. The shmups genre is still considered a very narrow niche genre at best regardless of what localized gaming publishers put out for the masses. They release them as a courtesy to shmups fans because they know such a fanbase still exists. ^_~

Like as if Cave Co. Ltd. will build such official Cave USA and/or Cave European arcade distribution houses for their arcade PCB offerings to get the word out that arcade shmup (and the occasional odd-ball arcade puzzler PCB offering) gaming titles are still alive and well. Means putting more people on the payroll and whatnot to pull if off successfully. Gotta cut the excessive fat off to stay lean and mean to stay in business...hence the reason why Cave doesn't have such outside arcade distro houses in other countries anyways.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Okay okay, I'll get a Japanese Xbox 350! Jeez, you people...

TLB · Post by **TLB** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:33 pm

Shit. Well, this changes things for this Poor Boy From Ackerville.

I'm getting a US 360 (any advice? Do they still RR all over the place?)
Now I won't have to get the PS2 version of THE.
Now I don't have to feel bad about neglecting to buy Rez for PS2 when I had the chance.
I won't have to buy a Swap Magic to play DOJ.
I'll still have to buy a Swap Magic to play ESPgaluda (shit!)
I may be able to play Ketsui in its entirety before I die (lol).
I may have spent money on Ketsui Death Label for little reason (dammit) (that's probably what they intended, so I guess I don't mind supporting them).
I'll have a superplay DVD of Ketsui before it possibly comes out over here (what are the general opinions on watching superplays to improve your game? I don't know whether I'd despise or thank myself...).
I'm going to be spending an assload of money in the near future...
I was WRONG! I was schertain this would never happen in a zillion beatz *cough* years. Ah well, being cynical/pessimistic means nice shit like this is always a pleasant surprise.
I've had my eye on EDF2017 for quite some time; it'll be cool to play it if I can find it.

I'm probably forgetting something...hmmm...

RackGaki · Post by **RackGaki** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:51 pm

Lynx Winters wrote:
antares wrote:
Aegis Wing is awful and Earth Defense Force is a shitty
If you can't have fun playing EDF, you have forgot how to have fun.

EDF is fun, but the novelty wears off quickly. Given that the appeal of the game is fighting larger than life robots and bugs, Lost Planet does this much better. They figured out how to avoid things like clipping and slowdown, which most first (or third) person shooters got over like, ten fucking years ago.

ChurchOfSolipsism · Post by **ChurchOfSolipsism** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:39 pm

m3tall1ca wrote:what are the general opinions on watching superplays to improve your game? I don't know whether I'd despise or thank myself...

Personally, I don't see what's the problem. If you think it's fun figuring out enemy patterns for yourself, do it. If you want to learn from master players, go ahead. I don't see it as cheating at all; I mean, if you compare shmupping to doing sports (which is not as crazy as it sounds - after all, all you're doing when you're playing chess is sitting on your ass and using your head), you wouldn't say that watching professional athletes to improve your technique is cheating or anything. After all, you still have to implement all those fine techniques into your own play - which is the hard part. I've watched the DOJ DVD a million times, but I still don't manage to get the chain counter over 110 in the first stage. It fucking drives me nuts.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:03 am

On Topic: FUCK YES!

On recent off-topicness: Watching a super-play isn't cheating. In fact, we'd be handicapping ourselves by NOT watching them. I mean, the Japanese get to sit there in the arcade and watch the best players have at it in person, interact with them, get advice and support from those willing to give it, etc. All we have are super-plays and forums =/

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:41 am

are you BLEX!!!

that's so silly sounding.... but it amuses me

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:23 am

Arvandor wrote:On recent off-topicness: Watching a super-play isn't cheating. In fact, we'd be handicapping ourselves by NOT watching them. I mean, the Japanese get to sit there in the arcade and watch the best players have at it in person, interact with them, get advice and support from those willing to give it, etc. All we have are super-plays and forums =/

It used to be a little taboo to even watch a super-play on these forums, because some viewed them as cheating. It's a little different now, but we still don't seem to be able to share information as freely as they do over there, which is what I think is stunting player development in the West at the moment.

Never_Scurred · Post by **Never_Scurred** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:42 am

ZeetherKID77 wrote:2 words:

Fuck. Yeah.

2 words:

Pipe. Dream.

MOSQUITO FIGHTER · Post by **MOSQUITO FIGHTER** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:09 am

This is tough to believe. No Cave ports have made it here before. I’d be surprised if they started now. I will have to get a 360 if Ketsui and Death Smiles get brought over.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:35 am

ChurchOfSolipsism wrote:I mean, if you compare shmupping to doing sports (which is not as crazy as it sounds

Not so much crazy as it is retarded. You're comparing a game that is programmed to be the same every time you play it to a competition involving human opponents. Hooray, the replay argument.

I can wait for Ray-den 4 (please include), Deathsmiles. Deathsmiles is a Cave game so it's not like I'm going to play it for score or something, no hurry.

kid aphex · Post by **kid aphex** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:58 am

If these do get localized, all it means is i'll be spending more money.
You know---to purchase the destined-to-be-rare-but-ugly-as-fuck US ports to shelve next to my year old JP360 versions.
shblah shblah shblahnidfwn9fuewnfwnefowu.....

evil_ash_xero · Post by **evil_ash_xero** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:48 pm

If somehow Ketsui and Deathsmiles makes it to the U.S., i'll be a happy man. I'll also be shocked. Let's hope.

I just can't justify buying another 360.

s/m

TLB · Post by **TLB** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:04 pm

j^aws wrote:

"Izzit cuz im BLEX?"

I did a speech on Sacha Baron Cohen a couple years ago for school. Was kickass. Can't wait for Bruno.

OnTopic: What 360s, if any, are safe to buy nowadays? Does anyone know? I'd prefer to just buy an Arcade, as I'd be doing fuck-else with it.

ChurchOfSolipsism · Post by **ChurchOfSolipsism** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:18 pm

Rob wrote:
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote:I mean, if you compare shmupping to doing sports (which is not as crazy as it sounds
Not so much crazy as it is retarded. You're comparing a game that is programmed to be the same every time you play it to a competition involving human opponents. Hooray, the replay argument.

It shouldn't be too difficult to find some type of sports where the amount of athlete/ player-environment interaction ratio is similar; with some sports, there is almost no variation in the conditions you have to react to. Besides, although games have a set program code and in that way "is the same every time you play it", games do react to the way players play the game - see rank, aimed bullets etc.

orange · Post by **orange** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:46 pm

dueling in a good deathmatch game is better than any sport

Taylor · Post by **Taylor** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:39 pm

If you want to make an example like that it would be pursuits like mountain climbing. Though that does seem demeaning to compare something like that to me alt-tabbing between MAME and Media Player Classic while shovelling pizza into my face.

henry dark · Post by **henry dark** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:43 am

ChurchOfSolipsism wrote:
Rob wrote:
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote:I mean, if you compare shmupping to doing sports (which is not as crazy as it sounds
Not so much crazy as it is retarded. You're comparing a game that is programmed to be the same every time you play it to a competition involving human opponents. Hooray, the replay argument.
It shouldn't be too difficult to find some type of sports where the amount of athlete/ player-environment interaction ratio is similar; with some sports, there is almost no variation in the conditions you have to react to. Besides, although games have a set program code and in that way "is the same every time you play it", games do react to the way players play the game - see rank, aimed bullets etc.

In sports your partner is human.