stage 6 ruined gradius V for me

Taylor · Post by **Taylor** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:52 am

Fanbase ruined touhou for me.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:55 am

Observer wrote:Getting to know the Touhou fandom...

Taylor wrote:Fanbase ruined touhou for me.

Lol, you guys are easily ruined. :D
That's much like saying "4chan ruined the internet for me" (though I imagine a lot of people here would actually say that).

Observer · Post by **Observer** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:53 pm

moozooh wrote:
Observer wrote:Getting to know the Touhou fandom...

Taylor wrote:Fanbase ruined touhou for me.
Lol, you guys are easily ruined.
That's much like saying "4chan ruined the internet for me" (though I imagine a lot of people here would actually say that).

I don't even want to know what that site/thing is. I only know the definition stated by others something about the internet "hate machine".

But let me rephrase that: I was showing people shooters, manly mecha and huge spaceships shooters (Hyper Duel, DDP, Raiden, GURADIUSU V, Ikaruga and some R-Type Delta) and a couple of them stopped me and say:

"Wait, no lolis? We were here for the lolis!" (they only played Touhou, that's was their only shooter ever)

...

That's when a single tear of pain appeared on my face although we could make it movie-like and add an echoing scream that gets lost in the night.

However, I don't hate Touhou because it was actually what brought me back to games after a lot of time and the great disconnection from the mainstream so it has my respect.

I just remembered I used to hate R-Type Delta stage 6 because the entire level freaked me out and it was quite hard and found the boss to be extremely frustrating. It costed me ages to get to stage 7 because of this.

Taylor · Post by **Taylor** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:54 pm

moozooh wrote:That's much like saying "4chan ruined the internet for me" (though I imagine a lot of people here would actually say that).

No it isn't? Besides, 4chan climbed on the bandwagon very late in the day.

My gripe is simply that nobody within the massive community likes or plays the games. It's founded in music, porn and tired 2ch memes - yet they are actually decent shmups.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:05 pm

ROBOTRON wrote:Every stage on Silpheed (PS2)

+ crazy slowdown in R-Type Final.

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:08 pm

stgt06 ruined psikyo for me...

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:21 pm

Rob wrote:
Limbrooke wrote:Learning Mars Matrix had chaining. Game over.
All chaining is not equal(ly bad). It ain't Dodonpachi.

But it's close. The chaining system is fine. The game is something else.

Learning that Chariot defaults include starting with 1 life.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:28 pm

About Gradius V:

What use is picking up all four options after dying in Gradius V during a bossfight when I´m stuck to the horrible slowest speed? And if you have that rotating option choice (Type 2?), that´s pretty much useless without Laser.

In other Gradius games, killing the bosses even with your regular shot isn´t impossible, and checkpoints made you stock up at least with some speed ups. Instant respawn just doesn´t mix with the Gradius formula and that´s painfully obvious in this game. Being to slow always is a real killer in Gradius, and Treasure changed so much in V that leaving this stupid default speed in boggles my mind. Die during a bossfight and you´re even more fucked than in any other Gradius game.

I think Gaiden did a much better job of adding some changes to the formula and making it more fun, first and foremost getting to arrange your own power up bar. And its stages burst with style and tricky parts while being relatively short - Gradius V made things dull and long, with that WHOA EPIC droning military soundtrack (I really loved that squeaky 80ies "Intermezzo" tune in the beginning of stage 2, though). And no Moai stage? Oh, so Treasure is too cool to make a Moai stage? In retrospect, they just put too much of their own flavour into it, but that´s not good for a series that has so many trademark moments in it. Especially since the Moai were one of the major elements in Gradius games.

Don´t get me wrong, I like Treasure, but I stopped liking Gradius V very early, and after playing Gradius II and Gaiden I now know why. It is great for presenting you flashy stuff - BENDING LASERS!!! - but overall it lacks the finetune of I,II and Gaiden (III and IV were pretty crappy IMHO). Sticking freeze options right into the bosses cores is unmatched, though

ForceDevice · Post by **ForceDevice** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:41 pm

Learning Mars Matrix had chaining made the game for me. I used to hate it before that. (still suck at it though... and some people say DOJ is hard. lol.)

I remember putting down R-Type Delta for several months after I managed to reach stage 6. That shit was so ridiculous I didn't even bother learning the patterns. Took me a hell of a lot of time to beat it.

kengou · Post by **kengou** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:13 pm

moozooh wrote:
Observer wrote:Getting to know the Touhou fandom...

Taylor wrote:Fanbase ruined touhou for me.
Lol, you guys are easily ruined.
That's much like saying "4chan ruined the internet for me" (though I imagine a lot of people here would actually say that).

I would. 4chan is what makes the internet "barely tolerable" rather than "fun".

On topic, though: goddamn bubble stage in Gradius 3 (arcade). If I even manage to get past it in 1 life (which I've only managed once) the boss eats me alive. It's borderline unfair.

dmauro · Post by **dmauro** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:20 pm

Unskippable cutscenes in Gradius V kind of ruin it for me.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:45 pm

Taylor wrote:My gripe is simply that nobody within the massive community likes or plays the games. It's founded in music, porn and tired 2ch memes - yet they are actually decent shmups.

Well, my point rather is: why not just ignore the fan community? Don't let some random crap like that even touch you, it's absurd. I have several hobbies that are subjected to fan communities (anime, for one, also has a lot of embarrassing side-content exposed there), but I'm just ignoring every one of them that I don't like or find interesting enough.

(This reminds me how I went to Einsturzende Neubauten gig this spring, and there were dozens of teenage goth chicks all around me. Screaming teenage goth chicks.)

FSR · Post by **FSR** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:49 pm

Unskippable Cutscenes have already been mentioned, so I'll add bonus stages (Metal Black, such a fine game otherwise) to the list.

moonblood · Post by **moonblood** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:02 pm

Gradius V is great but the length of it kinda ruins it for me, it just takes forever

orange · Post by **orange** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:00 pm

dmauro wrote:Unskippable cutscenes in Gradius V kind of ruin it for me.

there's like what 30 seconds of cutscenes?

Klatrymadon · Post by **Klatrymadon** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:02 pm

Stage 6 in GV is a blast! Goo-management really isn't a problem after a bit of practice...

orange · Post by **orange** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:42 pm

it's not really a problem if you lose one life either :3

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:47 pm

clover-tac ruined esp.ra.de for me

dmauro · Post by **dmauro** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:03 pm

orange wrote:
dmauro wrote:Unskippable cutscenes in Gradius V kind of ruin it for me.
there's like what 30 seconds of cutscenes?

It doesn't matter. If it were ten seconds it would bug me. The reason I play games like this is because they let me get right into the action. If I wanted a story with no gameplay I would be playing Final Fantasy instead.

Also, I'm not very good, so I play the first stage a lot.

orange · Post by **orange** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:06 pm

good point i found myself wanting to skip it pretty often

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:24 pm

jpj wrote:clover-tac ruined esp.ra.de for me

You mean the endless boss milking? That sure breaks playing it for score for me.

Hardstepah · Post by **Hardstepah** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:30 pm

stage six can be tough at times, but it isn't as bad as you're all making it out to be, the bosses at the end are harder than the actual level itself.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:48 pm

FrederikJurk wrote:
jpj wrote:clover-tac ruined esp.ra.de for me
You mean the endless boss milking? That sure breaks playing it for score for me.

yeah, man. shame

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:00 pm

LGB wrote: But it's close.

As close as Psyvariar is to Ikaruga.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:23 pm

Taylor wrote:Fanbase ruined touhou for me.

fanbase is the only reason I care about touhou at all (hint: loliz doujin)

Also, learning that LGB uses autofire in caravans ruined them for me.

Makoto Sei · Post by **Makoto Sei** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:08 am

Hmm... funny... i enjoying all about Gradius V ( except for the un skip able event ) and my favourite is type 1 weapon

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:27 am

orange wrote;

but at least it doesn't pull that gradius 5 shit and let you get up to stage 6 then punch you in the face

Realising that Type 4 is crap for the 2-7 MidBoss ruined it for me. Caused me to limp into loop 3

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If only I'd learned Type 1 from the start

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CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:44 pm

Gradius V needs a hack where you can control the aimed options with the right analog stick...ala robotron style.

orange · Post by **orange** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:09 pm

CMoon wrote:Gradius V needs a hack where you can control the aimed options with the right analog stick...ala robotron style.

this, trying to aim type 2 options feels so awkward to me and i HATE not having control of my ship while i do it

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:06 pm

sven666 wrote:stgt06 ruined psikyo for me...

Are you talking about playing Dragon Blaze in the tournament 2 years ago? That was fun!