6th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time! - RESULTS!

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Sun May 25, 2008 7:18 pm

CIT wrote:

BTW, why are Ibara and Ibara Black Label counted as one game!?

I noticed that. Must meant to have read 'ibara/ibara arrange'. Because not counting Ibara and Ibara Black Label as seperate games would be very silly indeed

Enhasa · Post by **Enhasa** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:06 pm

I haven't been around long enough to know, but it's standard practice to say that the games that dropped out of the previous top25 are better than the ones that entered right?

j^aws · Post by **j^aws** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:11 pm

^^ Kinda +:

OMFG, dondonfuckinpachi no1 again???? :rolleffineyes:

OMFG, 50 gazillion cavemofo shmups??? :rolleffineyes:

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Sun May 25, 2008 9:11 pm

top 10 all correct and accounted for

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Sun May 25, 2008 9:40 pm

Nice!
Gradius V is a hell of a shooter, and even though it doesn't necessarily mean that it's the best shooter of the world, I think that at least once it MUST be the best of the bunch. Because it deserves it. At least once.
Good one, GV!

(PS It wasn't my N.1)

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Sun May 25, 2008 11:06 pm

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Sun May 25, 2008 11:12 pm

That text is starting to get close to unreadable [/nag]

Also, I realized my question earlier was foolish, whoops

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Sun May 25, 2008 11:17 pm

Ed Oscuro wrote:That text is starting to get close to unreadable [/nag]

It's called "change of font" and it's intended as a celebration.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Mon May 26, 2008 12:24 am

Gradius V #1?

What... The... Fuck?

Drop Gradius V 8-30 places or so and it'd be a fine list =)

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Mon May 26, 2008 12:44 am

Gradius V at the top is perfectly understandable. A reaction to the long-standing dominance of complex scoring systems. An epic survival-based game with mind-blowing graphics. That's what many want, and Gradius V is as close as it gets.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Mon May 26, 2008 12:57 am

not to burst your bubble, but i think it's just because the game is available in all territories, and is very affordable.

-Bridget- · Post by **-Bridget-** » Mon May 26, 2008 1:02 am

Personally I dont really agree with Gradius V as number 1....

....but then, Im just not very fond of it, is all, I guess. Perhaps the ONE shmup of the many I've played that I just cant really get into. Treasure's style doesnt seem to agree with me much.

I also of course woulda liked to see Giga Wing get higher.

Strikers 1945 2 and Shiki 2 are both on there though, so all's fine by me, really.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Mon May 26, 2008 1:24 am

jpj wrote:not to burst your bubble, but i think it's just because the game is available in all territories, and is very affordable.

"it's just because" makes no sense to me. All the same is true of Ikaruga as well-- indeed Ikaruga is even more readily available and for less. But it's not in first. Gradius V is in first in large part because it is what many want: epic, survival-based, and gorgeous to behold. Why wouldn't there eventually be a reaction against complex scoring-based shmups? And surely many do want next-gen graphics in their shmups. Gradius V is the standard to beat.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon May 26, 2008 1:53 am

Turrican wrote:
Ed Oscuro wrote:That text is starting to get close to unreadable [/nag]
It's called "change of font" and it's intended as a celebration. :P

PREJUDICE, BIAS, INJUSTICE

The font in previous years wasn't changed to reflect the #1 game!

Also, everybody likes Gradius V because it has Treasure music.

jp · Post by jp » Mon May 26, 2008 2:22 am

Bleh. Thats the worst list this board has come up with yet.

Oh well, props to the folks who compiled it for doing so. But holy shit what a shitty top 25. Oh well, props to IGN for the best "Top Shmups" list this year.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon May 26, 2008 2:55 am

jp wrote:Oh well, props to Ed, Rob, Twiddle, etc. for the best "Top Shmups" list this year.

jp · Post by jp » Mon May 26, 2008 3:23 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:
jp wrote:Oh well, props to Ed, Rob, Twiddle, etc. for the best "Top Shmups" list this year.

Where's you guys' list? :p

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Mon May 26, 2008 4:52 am

Are you kidding? My list is the best.

Crisium · Post by **Crisium** » Mon May 26, 2008 5:14 am

I still have to play many of these on the list. Time to get cracking. Or it would be, but I'm having too much fun with Galactic Attack (RayForce) on my Saturn. I can't even finish a playthrough yet, even with the 4 credits, but that's more motivation to play. It's a unique game with the layers and I would have liked it in top 10. Oh well.

And I guess no one shares my love for Chaos Field. Even if it is bosses only.

nimitz · Post by **nimitz** » Mon May 26, 2008 5:57 am

wow Raiden DX went from 7th to 44th.

(that sucks)

was there some kind of mobilization of Raiden fans to vote for raiden Dx last year?.

louisg · Post by **louisg** » Mon May 26, 2008 6:29 am

Ed Oscuro wrote: Where is everything? Ray Force in the top 25...lolol

Them's fighting words!

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Mon May 26, 2008 6:33 am

Pleased to see a hori in the top slot. And interestingly, a non-arcade release. I'm sad for the lack of tube shmup and arena shmup representation though. Some crazy exciting stuff has been released in those genres recently like Super Stardust HD, Geowars Galaxies, Space Giraffe and Everyday Shooter, but seem to be getting ignored by voters if they are not even getting an honorable mention (maybe as a result of the platforms they are on.) Posting the results on the birthday of shmups.com (at least in my timezone

), was a nice touch...

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Mon May 26, 2008 7:38 am

Thunder Force wrote:Super Stardust HD, Geowars Galaxies, Space Giraffe and Everyday Shooter, but seem to be getting ignored by voters

yes. sad. :(

Creepy 3-time #14 is creepy.

Thanks for runnin' the vote.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon May 26, 2008 8:06 am

jp wrote:
Ed Oscuro wrote:
jp wrote:Oh well, props to Ed, Rob, Twiddle, etc. for the best "Top Shmups" list this year. :!:
:!:

Where's you guys' list? :p

In the voting thread, where else? use some imagination and just throw all the games we voted for together

(p.s. I would say Bloodreign and other people as well but they were playing trickses with their votes)

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:35 am

BTW, if Ibara and Ibara Black Label were to be considered seperate games as it should be, would Ibara still be on the Top25? Recount please.

ForceDevice · Post by **ForceDevice** » Mon May 26, 2008 10:14 am

Is Ibara BL really THAT different from the original? o_o

Like, different levels, different enemies, different everything-that-needs-to-be-different to make it a separate game?

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Mon May 26, 2008 10:50 am

ForceDevice wrote:Is Ibara BL really THAT different from the original? o_o

Like, different levels, different enemies, different everything-that-needs-to-be-different to make it a separate game?

It has the same sprites and that, sure. But everything that makes it a Raizing game has been changed to make it a Cave game. Though it does have rank and that. It's nice seeing Ibara in the top 25, but I'm not sure it made it in entirely on its own merits.

Then again, how many people actually voted for Ibara BL? It had a very limited release. Wasn't its run entirely constituted of reprogramed Vanilla Ibara boards?

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Mon May 26, 2008 11:40 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:
Turrican wrote:
Ed Oscuro wrote:That text is starting to get close to unreadable [/nag]
It's called "change of font" and it's intended as a celebration.
PREJUDICE, BIAS, INJUSTICE

The font in previous years wasn't changed to reflect the #1 game!

What can I say

I had to celebrate. I can mail a neutral version of the list to any Gradius haters out there

P.S. oxtsu had the best list this year, hands down.

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Mon May 26, 2008 12:00 pm

MX7 wrote:Then again, how many people actually voted for Ibara BL?

Fun fact: Nobody voted for Ibara Black Label, and only one vote went to Ibara Arrange Mode, so the whole discussion is moot.

Ibara earned its place in the top 25 all by itself.

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Mon May 26, 2008 12:09 pm

Herr Schatten wrote:
MX7 wrote:Then again, how many people actually voted for Ibara BL?
Fun fact: Nobody voted for Ibara Black Label, and only one vote went to Ibara Arrange Mode, so the whole discussion is moot.

Ibara earned its place in the top 25 all by itself.

Saucy.