Why do some Video Game fans become Power Mongers?

[Ed Oscuro]

People in a position of power are so easily succumb to abusing it because others can't.

Abuse it or lose it!

[Etrian]

People in a position of power are so easily succumb to abusing it because others can't.

Abuse it or lose it!

Why does either have to be done?

[Ed Oscuro]

Maybe all the free movies were worth it to Stalin. Hell if I know.

[D]

I think it all has to do with the annoyance you get from the fact that there is alot of ignorance. I for can't stand somebody who says that their video image looks good on their tv when they are using standard cables. That'll drive me outright mad. Or my Nintento fanboy friend who just accepts waiting 4 months before he can play a Nintendo game he wants to wait for because he does not import. He is as old as me, has money and the means, so it drives me mad. So I can relate. I guess I want the best for everybody and these guys are like that too. Icycalm has lots of great articles on his site. Perhaps more people should be like him and the fact that few people are like him, make him stand out.

Look, these people are all trying to educate us. Like teachers, they mean no real harm. They might go a bit overboard at times. But they mean well. They're not like they want to build some empire and make everybody bow down to them.
As for people never admitting they are wrong. We all have that in our selves. Some more than others. And also some people express themselves differently than others. I think that people that have trouble with each other have ego issues. Let's all just get along. As for Icycalm and I have seen it happen with others is this what I like to call hyena behaviour. Everybody attacking one person. That's just very lame. Let people fight their fights and don't intervein.

[szycag]

Ban D

[Twiddle]

DVD component > DVD SVideo >> DVD composite >>>>>>>>>>> VHS

> is one level of quality greater

[Ed Oscuro]

Once you've suckled at Athena's teat, plain old formula just don't cut it no mo'

[shoe-sama]

http://www.advancewarsnet.com/forums/in ... pid=883652
This is me right before I was banned on some forum lol
sums up my attitude pretty nicely
the forum was filled with morons lol

[Shatterhand]

I think it all has to do with the annoyance you get from the fact that there is alot of ignorance. I for can't stand somebody who says that their video image looks good on their tv when they are using standard cables. That'll drive me outright mad.

Why does it drive you mad? It's not your TV. Maybe your friend just doesn't give a fuck about "perfect image", and the way it is it's pretty good for him. I have a friend who's a sucker for the "perfect sound", and most of the time he's just annoying when he gets on with his preaching. Sometimes when my friends gather to play games, he brings on some super-duper-fucking-awesome sound system that takes ages to be set-up with the console, and everyone just goes like "Oh fuck it, it won't make any difference melonhead".

I personally can see how his sound set-up indeed is awesome, and watching movies on his house is really a different experience, but I don't find the sound of my TV bad, it doesn't detracts from my experience and I really can't be arsed to set-up a system like his (Not to mention the costs).


Some people just don't care, and there's no reason to get upset about this. It's not like we are talking about a life-or-death situation, it's just the image of a TV, goddamn it!

Look, these people are all trying to educate us. Like teachers, they mean no real harm. They might go a bit overboard at times. But they mean well. They're not like they want to build some empire and make everybody bow down to them.

Most people here know those stuff, and who doesn't know probably just don't care. Is just that most sensible people who knows their stuff don't try to make other people swallow it at any costs.

One example, I am a BIG fan of the Metal Gear series... I've played those games lots and lots of times, and I doubt there are many people who know more about the series than me.

I could keep on preaching here about how someone can't call himself a Metal Gear fan if they haven't played the original games on the MSX, but this is just annoying, and people won't give a fuck about it.

I could just inform them that the series started on the MSX and the original games are really good even having simple graphics for today standards, and that Metal Gear 2:Solid Snake is better than any of the other Metal Gear Solid games, and that the original MGS game "stole" everything it does correctly from the previous games.

Then, maybe the guy may could get interested in playing the original games, maybe he just won't care about it. But I gave the information without having to be a prick, and he can use it as he want it.

There's a big difference between "teaching" and "preaching". [/quote]

[D]

@ shatterhand.
You are one of those people who would not care if I said something like: "Rambo III on MSX is better than both Metal Gears on MSX".
But I bet few msx lovers could resist such flame bait.
And you are absolutely right. I was just trying to explain the motive. I can relate.

But for the tv/image thing, the reason why it annoys me is because those people buy a new pc monitor when the image goed a little bad. So they cannot accept an inferior image from their pc monitor, but they can accept an inferior image on their tv. This is why it maddens me. But I exagerate offcourse
Anyhow, leyt's love each other and try and find the positives in one another and try not to get distracted by attributes the differ and stand out a bit.
Let's let the egos rest from time to time

And there is actually no difference between teaching and preaching. I know what you mean though and that is what matters!
This whole thread is useless anyway and will probably grow 4 pages and then gets locked by a mod who had enough of it and sees that it is not going *anywhere.

[Shatterhand]

Rambo III sucks, but Rambo was a pretty good, underrated little gem. The MSX games I mean, not the movies.

Off-topic rlz.

[spadgy]

its not related to videogames, some people are just naturally jerks with huge egos.. if you want proof just try buying a used car for another great experience

Absolutely. Sure obsessive hobbies like games might attract some unusual characters not blessed with social skill, but I think in general it's just that there all kinds of people into all kinds of things.

On the subject of pic quality. D - you would have gone totally mad at a recent industry seminar I attended on the confusion surrounding HD. Apparently worldwide around 83% of people with HD-ready TVs aren't getting a true HD picture. Many of those actually know the cabling stuff, but have TVs so big they go beyond the optimum size (I think they said 30"), thus reduce the full potential of the HD output that the human eye pics up on.

Thus, you can only be relaxed and sane around 17% of HD-ready TV owners!

[DEL]

One basic difference between the Powermongers icycalm and Recap and the level headed guys is the simple fact that they are not players, they don't post scores. Prove me wrong by all means , but this is the one thing that strikes me.

As a player you can trade on both your scores and game knowledge. Whereas all an icynotsocalm or Recap has is his game knowledge to fall back on. ergo - half a man

[Acid King]

One basic difference between the Powermongers icycalm and Recap and the level headed guys is the simple fact that they are not players, they don't post scores. Prove me wrong by all means , but this is the one thing that strikes me.

As a player you can trade on both your scores and game knowledge. Whereas all an icynotsocalm or Recap has is his game knowledge to fall back on. ergo - half a man

Icycalm actually posted two scores. One for Mushihimesama, and one for Mushi Futari. By that I mean, literally, one score for each game.

[Shatterhand]

trade

It didn't look like they wanted to "trade". More like enforcing theirs on yours.

[jpj]

i agree with del. there are some people on here that i think need to have apersonality transplate, but at least i respect those of whom who post scores (you know who you are )

i think i might have said something similar to fighter17 shortly before his ban, ie he was only here to take advantage of the trading section, and post racist stuff in off-topic - he only posted 1 score in two years

[Specineff]

goed

Normal Forum Member: Um, you mean "went", right?

Elitist Know-it-all Jerk:Look, if you can't read or write english properly, go to your local library, (if your authorities aren't corrupt enough to skimp on that) and learn how to communicate properly, okay?

People become power mongers because they can.

[EOJ]

Icycalm actually posted two scores. One for Mushihimesama, and one for Mushi Futari. By that I mean, literally, one score for each game.

Yes, and both scores suck. He said his Galuda 2 score was about 80mil, which also sucks.

[jpj]

i don't think it's too important if the scores aren't great, as long as you're actively playing and enjoying the games (as opposed to spending most of your time arguing about them)

[spadgy]

In defense of those with not many or no posted scores, it can take a while to get good enough to hit score tables here. I've only managed to reach two, and only one of those is one I've posted several scores as I've climbed, been knocked down, climbed again etc.

I guess I've entered a tournament and stuff too, but basically it takes some of us some effort!

That said, I totally agree that there's a difference between people who actually play and people who are 'just know-it-all' experts...

[EOJ]

I would rather read a review from someone good at the game, than from someone with a sucky score, does not really know the game system, etc.

Power mongers seem to try and overcompensate for their ineptitude at the games with overly verbose reviews and nasty attacks against anyone who criticizes them.

The funny thing is, if they actually spent some quality time with the games, they could probably get a decent score, like most people. And their reviews would be more accurate and informative! But sadly, they are usually too busy attacking people on internet forums over the pettiest things.

[jp]

i don't think it's too important if the scores aren't great, as long as you're actively playing and enjoying the games (as opposed to spending most of your time arguing about them)

I think they're saying that icycalm and Recap had no business acting like they know more about these games than anybody since they weren't even very good players at them.

[jpj]

i don't want us to go round in a circle again, but i don't think it's necessary to be able to execute a good score on a game to review it, just need a solid break-down of the scoring systems.

but in terms of respect for posters, it definitely helps if you post some scores - and it shows that you're putting your energies in the right direction, i think

[PaCrappa]

I would rather read a review

Can someone please explain why a review is important in any way shape or form? You (everybody here) have played games for years. All types. Beyond knowing the genre and seeing some screenshots and/or video, what more could you possibly need? You already know what you like and what you don't and that you need to play a game using your own hands, eyes and ears before you can be certain of anything. So what does anybody need a review for? I can't recall the last time I read a review yet I still seem to end up with nothing but games I like. Is it magic?

[jpj]

well, obviously there are certain things you aren't going to find out by watching a gameplay vid (i do the same thing as you, btw), such as different modes, options, unlockables, etc. that's why i like "wikipedia article" style reviews, as icy puts it, because they're very little personal opinion, and more about the bare bones of it all. in the drama thread itself, i think i said on the first page that the IGN review seemed alright to me (for an introduction to ikaruga), and combining text with screens + video seems cool. i'm probably massively behind the times though, as i don't generally read (internet) reviews

[iatneH]

Now that undamned is a mod, I had better sell him any and all OutZone PCBs I come across I still feel bad about that...

[Rob]

that's why i like "wikipedia article" style reviews, as icy puts it, because they're very little personal opinion,

Yeah, that's not a review.

[jpj]

zzz...

[PaCrappa]

well, obviously there are certain things you aren't going to find out by watching a gameplay vid (i do the same thing as you, btw), such as different modes, options, unlockables, etc.

The manual that comes with the game isn't going to tell me this?

[EOJ]

i don't want us to go round in a circle again, but i don't think it's necessary to be able to execute a good score on a game to review it, just need a solid break-down of the scoring systems.

Yes, but if you have the choice between a guy who is good at the game, and another guy who sucks, whose review are you going to trust? Which review will actually mean something substantial? Would you rather read a review of a new snowboard by a kid who keeps tumbling down the beginner's hill, or one by a seasoned pro who regularly competes? That's sorta what I'm getting at.

Personally I don't feel comfortable reviewing a game until I have thoroughly played it, get a decent score, and know the game inside and out. This takes a number of months.