Good Horizontal Shooter list, am I missing anything?

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:30 pm

PFG 9000 wrote:Perhaps some of the Cotton games should be listed under Cute/Fantastic...?

Yes good remark.

NTSC-J · Post by **NTSC-J** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:05 pm

Lawfer wrote:Yeah I know of the price, but I saw some on ebay that aren't 700$ lol. Anyway, MVS uses the same stuff as AES, but there is surely is a little difference, no? Besides the price that is...

The only difference is that AES carts are sometimes tweaked for being on a home console. For example, Metal Slug 3 AES has a 5 credit limit to artificially lengthen the game's lifespan for the home buyer. The MVS carts are the ones used in the arcades, so you just put them on free play.

In terms of arcade perfect, the MVS carts are the arcade games, so you can do no better.

Cosmetically, MVS carts are pretty dull compared to the AES' kickin' clam shell cases. I like the ones with the buckle myself. But $1300 for a Metal Slug with a neat case vs. $60 for just the game is not a very hard choice to make, at least for me.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:06 pm

PFG 9000 wrote:Perhaps some of the Cotton games should be listed under Cute/Fantastic...?

*smacks self* Knew I forgot something...Cotton Boomerang is my personal favorite, and Cotton 2 is next in line...personally I find Cotton Original and 100% rather lacking. The former two are available on Saturn, and you van get the latter 2 on PS1...Original was er, originally on the PCE (CD, I think?) and 100% was originally on the Super Famicom.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:20 pm

Where the $#&* are the Thunder Cross games?

Gradius V, but no II or III?

Man, I guess it's based on what you want to get outta life...

neojma · Post by **neojma** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:17 am

Wait a minute, either I'm blind or shocked. Neo Geo discussion and everything, and nobody has even mentioned Pulstar or Blazing Star? And we have mentioned Last Resort? Bizzaro world indeed. I think Pulstar and Blazing star are both excellent horis, and even the people who find them overrated would probably admit that they're pretty high profile games. Neo also has a few sort of crap horis - Zedblade and Andro Dunos come to mind.

Couple more suggestions:
- Sol Deace (Genesis/MD) aka Sol Feace on SCD - shockingly competent US Sega CD pack-in title. It's really quite solid!

- Sengoku Blade - Psikyo's horizontal take on the ancient Japanese myth theme they went with for the vertical scrolling Sengoku Ace. Not a bad game! There's also the not-so-good Sengoku Cannon on PSP.

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:38 pm

neojma wrote:Wait a minute, either I'm blind or shocked. Neo Geo discussion and everything, and nobody has even mentioned Pulstar or Blazing Star? And we have mentioned Last Resort? Bizzaro world indeed. I think Pulstar and Blazing star are both excellent horis, and even the people who find them overrated would probably admit that they're pretty high profile games. Neo also has a few sort of crap horis - Zedblade and Andro Dunos come to mind.

Couple more suggestions:
- Sol Deace (Genesis/MD) aka Sol Feace on SCD - shockingly competent US Sega CD pack-in title. It's really quite solid!

- Sengoku Blade - Psikyo's horizontal take on the ancient Japanese myth theme they went with for the vertical scrolling Sengoku Ace. Not a bad game! There's also the not-so-good Sengoku Cannon on PSP.

Thanks will update the list.

EDIT: Sengoku Blade is called "Tengai" actually I already added it, how is that game? It seems so so to me, looks like Gambare Goemon shooting style....

I don't add games on Sega CD etc... Sorry. But thanks anyway.

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:40 pm

Ed Oscuro wrote:Where the $#&* are the Thunder Cross games?

Gradius V, but no II or III?

Man, I guess it's based on what you want to get outta life...

Gradius II & have been added when you did post that comment, you should have checked.

But that is correct no one mentioned the Thunder Cross games, I know that one is schedule Q1 2007. But what are the other ones I should add and on what system?

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:55 pm

Wow quite a Solid List we have there, keep it up guys. I am trying to acquire those games, but it's quite hard to find some of them.

Sonic R · Post by **Sonic R** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:00 am

cute 'em ups:
Magical Chase
Keio Flying Squadron

Neo Geo:
Last Resort

Genesis:
Gaiares
Whip Rush
Wings of Wor
Arrow Flash
Bio Hazard Battle

SNES:
Phalanx
Biometal
BlaZeon

Turbo:
Aero Fighters
Psychosis
Sinistron
Deep Blue
Gate of Thunder

Alec · Post by **Alec** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:49 pm

If your into PC Dojin games, I should mention that the Air Rade series is excellent. I've only played Air Rade Air a little bit, but I love it. Angeraze is pretty good too. I'd recommend checking both out and adding them to your list.

Since you aren't looking for hori shmups on Genesis, PC Engine, or SNES, I won't bother mentioning any, but I've gotta tell you you're missing out on a whole lot of 16 bit goodness.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:16 pm

Wolf Fang/Rohga is great. It isn't considered a "real" shmup, same as Atomic Runner, but it autoscrolls.

Not too far away (and with traditional straight-forward aim) is Tengai, which I just played again for a bit. I like it a bit more than the prequel, Samurai Ace, but both are pretty good.

Edit: I see Sonic R beat me to Gaires - had a chance to get a copy for free a while back but didn't pursue it, 'cuz I want my money from Epicenter - which seems pretty fun.

I was playing Last Resort and ASO II/Alpha Mission II (that last one's a vert though) in MAME just a bit ago, and I think I want to pick both up.

Alec · Post by **Alec** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:04 pm

NTSC-J wrote:The only difference is that AES carts are sometimes tweaked for being on a home console. For example, Metal Slug 3 AES has a 5 credit limit to artificially lengthen the game's lifespan for the home buyer. The MVS carts are the ones used in the arcades, so you just put them on free play.

Actually, that is a difference in the systems bios, not in the cart. The ROM chips inside MVS and AES carts are identical. The option to play in Console mode or Arcade mode can be selected on either system if you install the Unibios. The Universe Bios will also allow you to switch between regions, activate cheats (Autofire for Aero Fighters

) and even use your Neo Geo as a jukebox.

For anyone with a cart based Neo Geo I highly recommend installing a Unibios chip. Especially to MVS owners since the bios is socketed. The chip should only cost about $32 or so shipped from www.universebios.com

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:08 am

Arcade:
Fantasy Zone
Hellfire
Hyper Duel
Lost Worlds

Mega Drive:
Aero Blasters
Gynoug
Super Fantasy Zone

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:51 pm

Sonic R wrote:cute 'em ups:
Magical Chase
Keio Flying Squadron

Neo Geo:
Last Resort

Genesis:
Gaiares
Whip Rush
Wings of Wor
Arrow Flash
Bio Hazard Battle

SNES:
Phalanx
Biometal
BlaZeon

Turbo:
Aero Fighters
Psychosis
Sinistron
Deep Blue
Gate of Thunder

Wow thanks I'll update the list right now.

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:07 pm

Alec wrote:If your into PC Dojin games, I should mention that the Air Rade series is excellent. I've only played Air Rade Air a little bit, but I love it.

Hahaha I love that shit, could be a Treasure game. I am not unto that, but I am definitly gonna get it. Hum the game is made by Studio SiestA, might be hard to come by outside Japan...

Alec wrote:Angeraze is pretty good too. I'd recommend checking both out and adding them to your list.

This one looks good too, but I am not sure if I wanna get it though.

Alec wrote:Since you aren't looking for hori shmups on Genesis, PC Engine, or SNES, I won't bother mentioning any, but I've gotta tell you you're missing out on a whole lot of 16 bit goodness.

I might get Phalanx since it's out on GBA, but I don't feel like playing 16 bit games on a dusty snes. Plus you don't realise it, but snes games might look kinda slow, you know? Especially after you play an XBOX360 game or whatever lol

Thanks for the names, I'll update my list.

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:18 pm

JoshF wrote:Arcade:
Fantasy Zone
Hellfire
Hyper Duel
Lost Worlds

Arcade games?!! Thanks but it would help if I lived in Japan and plus next to an Arcade center, otherwise I don't see myself spending I dunno how much to get arcades in my home lol

JoshF wrote:Mega Drive:
Aero Blasters
Gynoug
Super Fantasy Zone

Aero Blasters? Isn't that the Japanese title for that Atomic (whatever) game?

Gynoug looks pretty good

loves the overall design.

Super Fantasy Zone looks like Paradius.

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:19 pm

What do you guys think of Kolibri?

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:24 pm

Ed Oscuro wrote:Not too far away (and with traditional straight-forward aim) is Tengai, which I just played again for a bit. I like it a bit more than the prequel, Samurai Ace, but both are pretty good.

Yes what about Tengai? Should I get it? It's a cute 'em up which isn't really what I'm looking for...

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:25 pm

Tengai's not much of a cute-em-up, really. If you want to try it it's available in MAME. Or just look around for some screenshots and reviews, they're out there.

As for Kolibri, IIRC it's got a weird setup, some stages are "traditional" scrolling shmup levels, while others are "limited roaming" (not sure of the correct term for them) levels more along the lines of Fantasy Zone.

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:10 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:As for Kolibri, IIRC it's got a weird setup, some stages are "traditional" scrolling shmup levels, while others are "limited roaming" (not sure of the correct term for them) levels more along the lines of Fantasy Zone.

But is it good though? I remmenber games on the 32X were pretty fast for the time...

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:03 pm

I only sampled it briefly some time ago, I hesitate to give much more info than that without risking saying something way off.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:20 pm

Lawfer wrote:Serious Sci-Fish:

R-Type Final
Sol Divide

avoid these

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:12 pm

Twiddle wrote:
Lawfer wrote:Serious Sci-Fish:

R-Type Final
Sol Divide
avoid these

Ahah says who? R-Type Final is excellent lol

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:06 pm

You guys forgot Gaia Seed!

j^aws · Post by **j^aws** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:01 pm

You know, there's nothing stopping you from playing verts in hori mode!

You could add these to the first post,

Bangai-O (DC)
R-Types (PS)
X-Multiply (Saturn/PS)

Some older arcade ports on recent compilations,

Forgotten Worlds
Defender
Defender 2, aka Stargate

Probably more, but my bains not workng right now!

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:27 pm

j^aws wrote:You know, there's nothing stopping you from playing verts in hori mode!

You could add these to the first post,

j^aws wrote:Bangai-O (DC):

Yes I wanted to buy that one in either US or EU version but forgot to add it to the list, thanks for the reminder.

j^aws wrote:R-Types (PS):

Already added

j^aws wrote:X-Multiply (Saturn/PS):

Ah this never head of it I might need to check what it is, K just checked it and it looks quite good, if I were to buy it, which should I go for? The Saturn or the Playstation version?

j^aws wrote:Some older arcade ports on recent compilations,

Forgotten Worlds
Defender
Defender 2, aka Stargate

Ported on which consoles?

beam · Post by **beam** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:36 am

Lawfer wrote:
JoshF wrote:Arcade:
Fantasy Zone
Arcade games?!! Thanks but it would help if I lived in Japan and plus next to an Arcade center, otherwise I don't see myself spending I dunno how much to get arcades in my home lol

There's a saturn port which is arcade perfect, a ps2 remake and more ports or versions.

j^aws wrote:Bangai-O (DC):

It's not an hori but nonetheless a great game !

Lawfer · Post by **Lawfer** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:50 am

j^aws wrote:Bangai-O (DC):
It's not an hori but nonetheless a great game !

Hell it's a Treasure game! That's good neough for me.

j^aws · Post by **j^aws** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:14 pm

Lawfer wrote:
j^aws wrote:R-Types (PS):
Already added

Not sure if you're aware but R-types is the name of the compilation that has both R-Type 1 and R-Type 2 arcade ports. Didn't see them in the list?

Lawfer wrote:
j^aws wrote:X-Multiply (Saturn/PS):
Ah this never head of it I might need to check what it is, K just checked it and it looks quite good, if I were to buy it, which should I go for? The Saturn or the Playstation version?

I have the Saturn version, but I'm not aware of any differences between them. The prices might vary on rarity though...

Lawfer wrote:
j^aws wrote:Some older arcade ports on recent compilations,

Forgotten Worlds
Defender
Defender 2, aka Stargate
Ported on which consoles?

Both Xbox and PS2, Capcom Classic Collection Vol.1 and Midway Arcade Treasures Vol.1, IIRC...

beam wrote:
j^aws wrote: Bangai-O (DC)
It's not an hori but nonetheless a great game !

Strictly speaking, yeah, it's more a multi-scroller... but the aforementioned Fantasy Zone kinda is too!

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:53 pm

Lawfer wrote:
j^aws wrote:Some older arcade ports on recent compilations,

Forgotten Worlds
Defender
Defender 2, aka Stargate
Ported on which consoles?

Defender and Defender II- Genesis, SNES, PS1, Saturn, N64, PS2, XBox, GC, PSP, GBA, DC, NES and PC on various compilation packs and carts. The main one that got re-released over and over again was the Midway's Greatest Arcade Hits Vol 1. This thing was ported to just about every main console over the period of a few years. Eventually, Midway's Arcade Treasures 1 came about to replace it.

Forgotten Worlds- Genesis, PS2, XBox and PC Engine. The PS2 and XBox versions are on Capcom Classic Collection Vol 1, and are basically arcade perfect. The Genesis version is a toned down (but good) port, while the PC Engine version is on CD, is much closer to the arcade version, and has remixed music and new voice options.

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Good Horizontal Shooter list, am I missing anything?

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