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[KAI]

He worked as a pro 1 year before Newtype was released (Heavy Metal L-Gaim character designer in 1984).

[Raytrace]

He worked as a pro 1 year before Newtype was released (Heavy Metal L-Gaim character designer in 1984).

I see - from what I looked at his characters seemed very realistic facially, which I kinda like

[GaijinPunch]

I was in a 7-11 doing the unthinkable (using an ATM past 9PM) and saw a couple of "big" versions of Patlabor. Checked YJ -- I can get the full run for about 1000 yen. Might do that and indulge in some nostalgia.

[Raytrace]

what are 'big' versions?

[KAI]

Do it, you can never get enough of Patlabor 2.

[Raytrace]

Patlabor II is absolutely majestic from start to finish.

[Raytrace]

I am watching the Gintama Gundam episode (someone on G+ suggested it to me) - it is quite interesting

[KAI]

Which chapters? there's a couple of Gundam episodes on Gintama.

Love this video.

Been reading a lot of Jiro Matsumoto, each one of his mangas is a must read.

[GaijinPunch]

what are 'big' versions?

Exactly what it sounds like. Probably the size of 4 "normal" mangas in one, for 780 yen. But, I'd just get the originals for almost nothing.

Do it, you can never get enough of Patlabor 2.

You talking about the movie?

[KAI]

I thought you were talking about movies, not bunko volumes.

Patlabor's manga is entertaining, too bad the European and American versions got canceled.

[Vamos]

Patlabor II is absolutely majestic from start to finish.

Glad im not alone Patlabor 2 is a masterpiece cant big it up enough just watch it .

[Raytrace]

yep it really is beautiful

I HAVE GOOD NEWS!!! - BLAZING TRANSFER STUDENTS JUST FINISHED YAYAYAYA

now I must learn to shove these .srts and try to make .mkvs out of it

[Raytrace]

ok so OVA 1 I have with an srt that works perfect I think, for some reason the 2nd srt is out of time on OVA 2

[Raytrace]

I've now shifted the 2nd OVA's .srt and resaved it from aegisub - I think it's on time, but I think some of the actual original subs timing is a little off, not that much though just in bits where lots of stuff is shouted in a row straight in front of each other. Having said that, that's a lot of Blazing Transfer Student :p

MKVs made

The video quality on these is pretty good IMO - I love the heavy ink/manga look to this OVA, I don't know why the fvck Gainax seem to be so ashamed of it :s

[KAI]

Now read Moeyo Pen and LOL hard. There's 2 chapters telling the story about the anime adapation of Honou no Tenkousei and it's LD release.

[GaijinPunch]

Patlabor II is absolutely majestic from start to finish.

Glad im not alone Patlabor 2 is a masterpiece cant big it up enough just watch it .

Well, I saw it back when you guys were very likely in elementary school. In fact, I ran the Laserdisc through an Amiga 1200 and a Genlock to subtitle it. Yep, was that dorky. Same goes for the first movie. However, I've forgotten everything except the opening sequence, so it will be like watching fresh again.

[Raytrace]

In fact, I ran the Laserdisc through an Amiga 1200 and a Genlock to subtitle it.

That is one of the most impressively hardcore sentences I've ever read :p. So what happened, someone worked out timings of subs etc. and then physically sent you some type of text file? Or were there fansub BBS's at this point? I am very intrigued/impressed.

[GaijinPunch]

In fact, I ran the Laserdisc through an Amiga 1200 and a Genlock to subtitle it.

That is one of the most impressively hardcore sentences I've ever read :p. So what happened, someone worked out timings of subs etc. and then physically sent you some type of text file? Or were there fansub BBS's at this point? I am very intrigued/impressed.

By the time Patlabor 2 came out, you could probably have gotten the timed scripts off of the interwebs. If not, there were fansub BBS's out the ass, and even groups that traded non-publicly. Just had to have floppies and shit to move them around, as I had no modem for my A1200. Haha.

I had a local guy that had a HUGE collection of LDs. Ranma, Maison Ikkoku... expensive shit. Probably 1000 tapes, too. Generally he couldn't do all the subbing so he'd offload to me. For high profile stuff, like Patlabor 2, a timed script was generally released relatively quickly. Untimed scripts were rare. There was generally a drift issue you had to deal with on each side of the LDs (3 in this case, if memory serves), as well as where the sync point was [plus the original timer's timing to the sync point, and yours] but it was pretty easy to hammer out. Route the output to SVHS, and Bob's your uncle.

FWIW, I actually retimed the entire Maison Ikkoku run. Used Arctic Animations scripts, but cleaned them up. Retiming 96 episodes is meticulous as a mother fucker. This was analog, too. Took me 2 years, but I did it. And, that was my last project, as you can imagine the burn out. I've always wondered if the other versions that have surfaced in the (yikes) 18 years since completing it were based off my timings or not. They were tight as shit, so it would have been a painstaking effort if they didn't.

Final Edit: As per earlier in this thread, I'm rewatching the whole run now,mainly for nostalgia. Ironically, w/ no subtitles. Funny how that works out.

I Googled around to see if they're available. Indeed, they may be in the ether now. I did find this nugget though. Scroll down to bottom.

[Raytrace]

I Googled around to see if they're available. Indeed, they may be in the ether now. I did find this nugget though. Scroll down to bottom.

Haha and I was all proud of myself for shifting subs on on one OVA today and making it into a .mkv. I did notice the .rar file which had the .srts I used had .script files? Are they an LD format, or just a very early subtitling standard?

That's some cool stuff - does Paul England = Gaijin Punch ?

11/6/1994 - amazing

[GaijinPunch]

Haha and I was all proud of myself for shifting subs on on one OVA today and making it into a .mkv. I did notice the .rar file which had the .srts I used had .script files? Are they an LD format, or just a very early subtitling standard?

.srts is after my time. The first main subtitling software was Turbo Title, written by a fellow in my hometown of Dallas of all places. It was the standard for several years, but it was a pretty vanilla program. AFAIK, it did not support multiple colors, and may not have even supported anything other than yellow, although that sounds a bit odd. I also think it only had two fonts: small and big. If you look at old Arctic Animation fansub videos (which were about 5th to 6th gen back so looked like shit 20 years ago... imagine what they look like now), they used the big font. Jacosub came around sometime in 1993 I think, and hit full maturity around 1995. It supported user-defined fonts, colors, and even supported the API on the SuperGen, which had fades. Cool shit for the time. I also remember Turbo Title having buffering issues. You'd never see a title clear and a knew one appear in a single frame -- there was always a "blip". I never used it though. I learned on Jacosub. Other factoid: Jacosub had a great licensing cost. You just had to send the author one tape of anime you subtitled with the software (or $15). This was back in the money order days.

Jacosub also made ramping a fuck ton easier. You could display a bar at the bottom of the screen w/ shift + ramp time displays, and tweak them as you went along. Some people would sync off of the most fucked up point on the KD (5 seconds after X screen appears, for example). This is all manual as well. So, someone like me would want to push that back to 0:00 on the LD. IE, start the script & start LD at the exact same time. The live shifting allowed you to do that. The live ramping helped, but you had to effectively ramp towards the end of the show. W/ TurboTitle, you'd tape it, and count in your head about how far it was off in the last few minutes of that side of the LD (or use a timer) and then try again. Not scientific, but it was fine for what it did. Jacosub just made it better.

All of that was a bit of a tangent to say there were two main subtitle files at the time. .tt for TurobTitle, and .js for Jacosub.

I did a serious dig to see if I could find my old scripts on the internet, but I'm afraid we've finally found something truly obscure. There's really no need for them now -- there are commercial and other fansubs available for those. I don't see a lot of fansub script sites out there. Would be nice to see 2 years of my labor though.

That's some cool stuff - does Paul England = Gaijin Punch ?

Yep. I make no secret of my name... I've sold items to half the fucking forum, so most people know it anyway.

11/6/1994 - amazing

Yep. Used to have to whack to still images, and not videos. Crazy times.

[Raytrace]

.srts is after my time. The first main subtitling software was Turbo Title, written by a fellow in my hometown of Dallas of all places. It was the standard for several years, but it was a pretty vanilla program. AFAIK, it did not support multiple colors, and may not have even supported anything other than yellow, although that sounds a bit odd. I also think it only had two fonts: small and big. If you look at old Arctic Animation fansub videos (which were about 5th to 6th gen back so looked like shit 20 years ago... imagine what they look like now), they used the big font. Jacosub came around sometime in 1993 I think, and hit full maturity around 1995. It supported user-defined fonts, colors, and even supported the API on the SuperGen, which had fades. Cool shit for the time. I also remember Turbo Title having buffering issues. You'd never see a title clear and a knew one appear in a single frame -- there was always a "blip". I never used it though. I learned on Jacosub. Other factoid: Jacosub had a great licensing cost. You just had to send the author one tape of anime you subtitled with the software (or $15). This was back in the money order days.

Jacosub also made ramping a fuck ton easier. You could display a bar at the bottom of the screen w/ shift + ramp time displays, and tweak them as you went along. Some people would sync off of the most fucked up point on the KD (5 seconds after X screen appears, for example). This is all manual as well. So, someone like me would want to push that back to 0:00 on the LD. IE, start the script & start LD at the exact same time. The live shifting allowed you to do that. The live ramping helped, but you had to effectively ramp towards the end of the show. W/ TurboTitle, you'd tape it, and count in your head about how far it was off in the last few minutes of that side of the LD (or use a timer) and then try again. Not scientific, but it was fine for what it did. Jacosub just made it better.

All of that was a bit of a tangent to say there were two main subtitle files at the time. .tt for TurobTitle, and .js for Jacosub.

I did a serious dig to see if I could find my old scripts on the internet, but I'm afraid we've finally found something truly obscure. There's really no need for them now -- there are commercial and other fansubs available for those. I don't see a lot of fansub script sites out there. Would be nice to see 2 years of my labor though.


Yep. I make no secret of my name... I've sold items to half the fucking forum, so most people know it anyway.



Yep. Used to have to whack to still images, and not videos. Crazy times.

Really interesting - so do you reckon that if you find something proper old and the subs are kinda yellow with very pixelly black outline - that was probably made with Turbo Title?

[GaijinPunch]

Probably not... for the most part, if you find a fan-subbed VHS tape these days, it's likely JACOsub. I was using Jacosub in 1993 I think... and there was THAT much fan-subbing leading up to that. 4-5 years at best, and it was WAY fewer people. AFAIK, no other program really replaced JACOsub for genlocking. Not until you could digitize DVDs easily did JACOsub lose it's umph. But, that is just a hunch. I was long done subtitling by that time.

Note that JACOSub was much more robust, so, as before, allowed for custom fonts & colors. However, the standard was pretty much yellow on black as it was believed to last longer generations of dubbing on tape than white on black. If I saw a clip though I could still spot a Turbotitle subbed tape. It's very obvious.

[Raytrace]

Probably not... for the most part, if you find a fan-subbed VHS tape these days, it's likely JACOsub. I was using Jacosub in 1993 I think... and there was THAT much fan-subbing leading up to that. 4-5 years at best, and it was WAY fewer people. AFAIK, no other program really replaced JACOsub for genlocking. Not until you could digitize DVDs easily did JACOsub lose it's umph. But, that is just a hunch. I was long done subtitling by that time.

Note that JACOSub was much more robust, so, as before, allowed for custom fonts & colors. However, the standard was pretty much yellow on black as it was believed to last longer generations of dubbing on tape than white on black. If I saw a clip though I could still spot a Turbotitle subbed tape. It's very obvious.

Man I'm loving this shit, I do eventually intend, once I have some money again, to start collecting LD's, I know a lot of them will have rot etc., but the covers are so beautiful I want them anyway.

[KAI]

Yellow subtitles, those were the good ol' days. there's too many incapable people doing subs these days.

Punpun 11 will be ready the 24th

Fuck.

the reviews online are making v11 sound like it's almost as crazy as Eva 3.0.

Fuck.

[Drum]

Well, I had a feeling shit was going to go down.

[GaijinPunch]

Man I'm loving this shit, I do eventually intend, once I have some money again, to start collecting LD's, I know a lot of them will have rot etc., but the covers are so beautiful I want them anyway.

They are DIRT cheap here. Shipping will kill you, of course, but if you know of someone travelling across the pond you can have them carry them. I know guys that had $2000+ TV collections (Maison Ikkoku was one). You can now get them used off of Yahoo Japan for less than 10,000 yen. Always wanted those Yamato TV collections on LD, but they were 45,000 yen. Now yours for < 5000.

Wonder how BluRays and shit will hold up. I think everyone knows now that media is an awful investment. I only buy if I'm going to watch it more than once (and thoroughly enjoy it).

there's too many incapable people doing subs these days.

My timing was tight as fuck. Some of the locals said I was a bit too meticulous. Technology has put too many hobbies into to the hands of the lazy, I'm afraid. There's an argument that the results speak for themselves when it comes to such stuff, but there are some fucking AWFUL DJs out there these days. No skill... shit tunes... blech. Take me back to the late 90s.

[drauch]

Well, for what it's worth, I appreciate any meticulous work that goes into translation. I was watching a Cat's Eye fansub today, and at the beginning he even had a disclaimer along the lines of, "This isn't the best job, but whatever." Had some silly parenthesis at times as well, commenting on scenes and such. Was kinda obnoxious. Probably should be studying myself, but here I am complaining. No rest for the lazy.

[Hagane]

the reviews online are making v11 sound like it's almost as crazy as Eva 3.0.

Fuck.

I don't believe Asano could turn to shit in such a short span of time.

[Raytrace]

They are DIRT cheap here. Shipping will kill you, of course, but if you know of someone travelling across the pond you can have them carry them. I know guys that had $2000+ TV collections (Maison Ikkoku was one). You can now get them used off of Yahoo Japan for less than 10,000 yen. Always wanted those Yamato TV collections on LD, but they were 45,000 yen. Now yours for < 5000.



My timing was tight as fuck. Some of the locals said I was a bit too meticulous. Technology has put too many hobbies into to the hands of the lazy, I'm afraid. There's an argument that the results speak for themselves when it comes to such stuff, but there are some fucking AWFUL DJs out there these days. No skill... shit tunes... blech. Take me back to the late 90s.

Cool yeah the first thing I'd probably try and get are the Gundam OVAs (08th MS and 0080) the covers for them are beautiful...

Cool stuff - thats a compliment ('too meticulous') :p. Yep there is a lot of utter shit around nowadays - take me back to 89-94 (IMO the zenith of electronic music (well definitely electronic 'dance' music anyway)).

[GaijinPunch]

If you have the time, there's some good techno out there. However, you gotta dig like a mofo. I peruse Beatport and on a page of 150 tracks, I will find max 2 keepers. Oddly enough the Indie Dance/Nu Disco section has some really great shit, but the hit rate is even worse.

Official FM has my latest mix non-biographically titled "I Went To Another World and Fell In Love, But It Was Not Mutual and I Was Forcibly Removed."

Not sure what you're into, but it's a good example of what I listen to. 120bpm.... more groove than other elements.