Prelude to the Apocalypse

[Mischief Maker]

By the way, quash, how do you square your characterization of Trump as a stabilizing influence with his offhand comment that China should invade North Korea?

Can you show me when he said this? All i ever heard him say regarding DPRK was that he believes China has a great deal more influence than they say they have.

Sure:

https://youtu.be/PL6BiGX0LFM?t=56s

[quash]

All he said was they should "go in", while talking about other means of diplomacy. We can sit here and mince words that were almost certainly chosen for their ambiguity, but I think it's pretty clear what he meant.

The unfortunate truth about North Korea is that there is no good solution. Had they not developed nuclear weapons we could have kept them around so as to avoid the inevitable issues of its fall (including but not limited to reintegrating its citizens into society), but things did not turn out that way. As it is, the likelihood of Un's generals turning on him gets higher each day, and nobody seems to have a plan on how to deal with that.

[quash]

By the way, quash, how do you square your characterization of Trump as a stabilizing influence with his offhand comment that China should invade North Korea? (And he's made similar comments in the past).

Haven't you been paying attention to quash's other posts? Nothing Trump says matters. What matters is what he DOES, and quash for some reason knows EXACTLY what Trump is going to do at all times forever.

Damn straight. Actions speak louder than words, now and forever.

Democrats will talk a smooth game, but the reality of their agenda couldn't be any farther than what they say it is.

Here's a fun exercise: tell me how many wars the US is involved in right now.

[quash]

As for the tax returns, he is under an audit. Legally, nothing is preventing him from releasing his returns, but I don't know what kind of idiot you'd have to be to release them to the public while a three letter agency is reviewing them.

[CIT]

Legally, nothing is preventing him from releasing his returns, but I don't know what kind of idiot you'd have to be to release them to the public while a three letter agency is reviewing them.

Why? Please explain.

[Giest118]

Because it'll reveal his financial ties to NAMBLA, and the auditors need time to get that shit out of there.

Clearly.

[quash]

Let the auditors do their job. No reason to get the media lynch mob on their case.

Trump probably does use every loophole he can. If you were in his position, I guarantee you'd do the same.

[quash]

Even the few remaining Obama holdouts at work are having a hard time defending this.

How a President can on one hand tout a pivot to Asia and then on the other hand insist that the Pentagon not use the word "competition" is mind boggling.

[CIT]

Let the auditors do their job. No reason to get the media lynch mob on their case.

Trump probably does use every loophole he can. If you were in his position, I guarantee you'd do the same.

That doesn't explain why Trump shouldn't release his return.

[system11]

Debate was rubbish, expected proper fireworks, hated both of them.

[Mischief Maker]

I think it's pretty clear what he meant.

Yeah.

"Cocaine's a hell of a drug."

Sniiiiiiiiiiif!

[Ed Oscuro]

Let the auditors do their job. No reason to get the media lynch mob on their case.

That's not how it works and you know it.

You also know full well that Clinton's lost emails didn't hide anything important, and nothing sinister happened at the Clinton Foundation. The only reason these things are "relevant" is because there is the slighest hint of mystery about them on which you can impress your own account of unreality, and because they are about Clinton. Else you'd be asking what Colin Powell's own use of a private email server was intended to hide - as his comment about that practice makes it appear was his intention. Even if the contents of all these things were fully known, you'd just construct a conspiracy theory to make it look as if things aren't as they really are.

This is why I didn't agree with MM's earlier statement that Bernie Bros who went to Johnson without understanding the implications of voting for a libertarian are less defensible than quash. To be a Johnson supporter you just have to be a bit naive and ignorant; it happens. To be a Trump supporter you have to be brain damaged.

[quash]

You wouldn't know what anything of importance was if it hit you in the face. The same goes for everyone that's ignorant by design.

Just wait until the jig is up and everything comes completely unraveled.

[Bitter Almonds]

$hillary shills are deluded and live in an alternate reality where the past 36 years don't exist. Anyone who thinks she's the "lesser evil" has a pretty high threshold for what would constitute as "evil." There is no depth to how low they'll go to rationalise her horrible and reprehensible decisions when she wielded power. This bitch could school eva perón herself jajaja.

[quash]

Let the auditors do their job. No reason to get the media lynch mob on their case.

Trump probably does use every loophole he can. If you were in his position, I guarantee you'd do the same.

That doesn't explain why Trump shouldn't release his return.

That does explain it. From a legal standpoint, it makes no sense to expose records that are under review, even if the law permits it. From a strategic standpoint, it's a card he gets to hold until the last moment. I'm willing to bet there's nothing particularly incriminating in his tax returns; nothing as bad, at least, as donating millions to your own charitable organization.

[trap15]

From a legal standpoint, it makes no sense to expose records that are under review, even if the law permits it. From a strategic standpoint, it's a card he gets to hold until the last moment.

Why does it make no sense? And what strategic value does holding "the tax return card" have?

[Ed Oscuro]

You wouldn't know what anything of importance was if it hit you in the face.

You're punch drunk, pal. Go play with your race-baiting "alt-right" Nazi friends, 'cuz they're known for being stable and perfectly friendly folk.

Speaking of which:
http://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/09/tr ... g_fai.html

Also: Pretty hilarious that Trump admits that he's getting legal advice not to admit anything. Who knows what the hell else is out there? His self-dealing not only is illegal, but it's stupid and will cost him money in the long run. His charity only exists as an alternative tax haven for himself, and he probably would have gotten away with it if only he hadn't run for President.

[Cee]

By the way, quash, how do you square your characterization of Trump as a stabilizing influence with his offhand comment that China should invade North Korea?

Can you show me when he said this? All i ever heard him say regarding DPRK was that he believes China has a great deal more influence than they say they have.

Sure:

https://youtu.be/PL6BiGX0LFM?t=56s

Thanks but as i suspected you're hearing what you want to hear, he says nothing about invasion or military action of any kind and he wouldn't of implied it either seeing as he and everyone else has already spoke of the almost allied connection between China and the DPRK.

Go play with your race-baiting "alt-right" Nazi friends, 'cuz they're known for being stable and perfectly friendly folk.

Said the passive aggressive assumption spewing leftist.

$hillary shills are deluded and live in an alternate reality where the past 36 years don't exist. Anyone who thinks she's the "lesser evil" has a pretty high threshold for what would constitute as "evil." There is no depth to how low they'll go to rationalise her horrible and reprehensible decisions when she wielded power. This bitch could school eva perón herself jajaja.

Unfortunately it's much worse than that, due to identity politics, 2 tier tribalism and leftist indoctrination withing the education system we now have an army of "liberals" not to be confused with classic liberals who legitimately think the crimes of the opposition (nothing more than a couple crassly worded opinions taken out of context) equates to a greater crime than a woman involved firsthand with destabilization, corruption, death, covering for a rapist and everything else abhorable under the sun for close to 30 years. They also would rather virtue signal and ego wank within the confines of their douchebag echo chambers than dare to contemplate the actual threats facing the country internally but don't worry if they get the 100.000 Syrians Hilary has promised they'll learn the hard way just like Europe and continue to blame everything else apart from the problem whilst they sink in their own demise.

[Cee]

From a legal standpoint, it makes no sense to expose records that are under review, even if the law permits it. From a strategic standpoint, it's a card he gets to hold until the last moment.

Why does it make no sense? And what strategic value does holding "the tax return card" have?

http://lawnewz.com/politics/legal-exper ... ing-audit/

[Lord Satori]

This is getting ridiculous. You people are starting to give off the impression that you're really just one person who thinks they're being clever by using multiple accounts.

At least TRY to sound like a reasonable person instead of resorting to idiotic derogatory terminology and a plethora of fallacies.

[neorichieb1971]

Trump gives me the jitters.

If he becomes President its going to be "I'm America and what I say goes" kinda malarkey.


I just watched "Designated Survivor". Which is frightning what would happen if Trump came to power under those circumstances.

[BulletMagnet]

That doesn't explain why Trump shouldn't release his return.

Even better, when asked to provide official documentation just to prove he's actually under audit at all, he refuses to produce even that.

[Mischief Maker]

Thanks but as i suspected you're hearing what you want to hear, he says nothing about invasion or military action of any kind and he wouldn't of implied it either seeing as he and everyone else has already spoke of the almost allied connection between China and the DPRK.

Speaking of "Hearing what you want to hear," as I linked earlier, Trump has publicly made statements that China should assassinate Kim Jong Un (with all the subtlety of Fat Tony from the Simpsons). Strange that when you quoted me you redacted that link from my sentence.

Whether he'd actually do it or not, the fact remains Trump can't control his stupid mouth when he gets irritable. A private citizen can say stupid things like, "maybe the US should default on the dollar" and nothing happens, but if the president says that, instant market panic.

(Incidentally quash, I don't get you. On one hand you hate Hillary because she's a hawk, but then you rip on Obama because he told the pentagon to tone down the inflammatory language toward China. Do you want to resolve things diplomatically or do you want to bust some heads? Or are you hoping Trump will remain so erratic that nobody in the world would try any posturing with his finger on the button?)

But ultimately this is all unimportant, I agree. Trump should be flat-out disqualified because he's a climate change denier who would pull out of the Paris accords, eliminate the "Department of Environmental," and the one clear policy message that came out of the RNC was "coal, coal, coal!" (Empty platitudes aside, Gary Johnson's not much better, btw).

[Skykid]

seeing as he and everyone else has already spoke of the almost allied connection between China and the DPRK.

Lol, where do you guys get your biased sensationalist propagandist nonsense faux news from these days? FOX?

I'm sure if NK sank into the ocean tomorrow Beijing would be high fiving each other and drinking baijiu.

[BryanM]

"maybe the US should default on the dollar" and nothing happens, but if the president says that, instant market panic.

But.... have you considered, maybe, the U.S. really should default on the dollar?

You take it for granted that it's going to be this horrible terrible thing, but maybe you need to try it first to see how you like it? Like how society badmouths liver and broccoli. Perchance green eggs and spam is just what the doctor ordered.

You also know full well that Clinton's lost emails didn't hide anything important, and nothing sinister happened at the Clinton Foundation.

"Vice presidents don't matter." - Quash
"Pay for play isn't sinister." - Ed Oscuro
"None of the work emails of the secretary of state are important." - Ed Oscuro
"Classified information isn't important." - Ed Oscuro
"Just because she'd be living in the bathroom of a South American embassy if she were a normal person, that doesn't matter!" - Ed Oscuro

Same people, different names it looks like. Good luck with your respective football teams, gentlemen. Since that's all you two care about.

Don't know why, since you're both voting for the same person.

[EmperorIng]

Bryan, I'll have you know that I have tried liver, and it's every bit as bad as society makes it out to be.

[CIT]

Let the auditors do their job. No reason to get the media lynch mob on their case.

Trump probably does use every loophole he can. If you were in his position, I guarantee you'd do the same.

That doesn't explain why Trump shouldn't release his return.

That does explain it.

No, it doesn't.

When he signed and sent off his tax return, he gave his word that all information therein contained is the truth. The guy wants to be president, so he better be able to show he can stand by his word. As it is, he can't be trusted.

[BryanM]

Bryan, I'll have you know that I have tried liver, and it's every bit as bad as society makes it out to be.

We can't be friends anymore. I'm taking you off of facebook.

[system11]

Bryan, I'll have you know that I have tried liver, and it's every bit as bad as society makes it out to be.

We can't be friends anymore. I'm taking you off of facebook.

I'm building a wall around the UK now to stop any more broccoli arriving, stop saying that it's ok.

[CIT]

I'm building a wall around the UK now to stop any more broccoli arriving, stop saying that it's ok.

I thought the Brits already voted no to Brussels sprouts...ba-dabing!