Looking forward to "NX"? (aka The Switch Thread)

[Zen]

It's clearly got more appeal than the Wii U had right out the gate and I see potential here I never even glimpsed with the former. As a videogame market predictor with an impeccable record, I'll hold my tongue until more details are out, but so far I think there's opportunity here for great success. Combining a steady domination of the handheld market with home console is a smart move.

Man, I must be completely out of touch. I just don't see it . Then again, I'm clueless about the handheld market, so theres that.
To me, I'm looking at a wii-3. Granted, that is probably because it does not appeal to me personally but would we be even giving this console a second look if it were not Nintendo (games aside, of course)?
The only thing that raised my interest, is that the games are on a game card.

[qmish]

Call me stupid by i can't call them "cartridges".

It's just same shit as CF and SD/microSD or Memory Stick, which is for me was a completely different thing that anything that i can label as "cartridge". I must be wrong technically, but i only call nes/genesis carts as cartirdges, and only them.

[iconoclast]

Man, I must be completely out of touch. I just don't see it . Then again, I'm clueless about the handheld market, so theres that.
To me, I'm looking at a wii-3. Granted, that is probably because it does not appeal to me personally but would we be even giving this console a second look if it were not Nintendo (games aside, of course)?
The only thing that raised my interest, is that the games are on a game card.

Pokemon and Monster Hunter are mega franchises that Nintendo had exclusively on the 3DS, so even if the Switch struggles out of the gate, those games will give it a huge boost. If this system does flop tho, then I don't see how Nintendo could stay in the hardware business.

[BryanM]

I'm looking forward to the numbers of the new pokemon gen compared to X/Y

It's going to be 50% to 80% of the sales. Which is still a shit ton.

The first release they have on a new platform does the best of all the subsequent ones on that platform. Not everyone needs a new pokemon game every two years. (Notice how they try to squeeze one out every single year now? Pokemon is Nintendo's generic annual sports game franchise.)

I imagine the Switch's "FIRST TRIPLE AAA S+ MAINLINE POKéMON GAME EVER MADE MOTHERFUCKERS" would see a modest to significant sales bump. I can only see good things about consolidation - chase one bird instead of two.

Only concern is how mobile is that beast, really.. The difference between a normal pocket and a backpack decides if its something you'd take to the bowling alley or not.

which is for me was a completely different thing that anything that i can label as "cartridge"

I agree with ya man, these are cards. A cart is a PCB that plugs into something.

To me, I'm looking at a wii-3.

It's a DS-3, except with the same exact games the Bone and Phantasy Star 4 have. Maybe.

but would we be even giving this console a second look if it were not Nintendo (games aside, of course)?

The exclusive games are the only thing that matter. People who care about Monster Hunter just had an orgasm over this thing.

[GaijinPunch]

The only solution is keep internet access screens in high traffic areas. I can't do that with a portable.

Mine will go to the neighbor's, use Google, reflash the device, and get loose.

Randomly grab it and check it every now and again? If you think only b/c the screen is in a high traffic area your kid isn't doing dodgy shit on the internet, then I'd suggest open communication. Before you get all bent out of shape, note that I am a parent as well.

It's also not a portable. Not just a portable anyway. Just don't let him take it out of the house.

[Ed Oscuro]

Pokemon and Monster Hunter are mega franchises that Nintendo had exclusively on the 3DS,

Pokemon maybe, but Monster Hunter has been everywhere - on the Wii, and on the PSP in multiple versions.

Call me stupid by i can't call them "cartridges".

It's just same shit as CF and SD/microSD or Memory Stick, which is for me was a completely different thing that anything that i can label as "cartridge". I must be wrong technically, but i only call nes/genesis carts as cartirdges, and only them.

PC-Engine, then?

[iconoclast]

Monster Hunter carried the PSP. Nintendo securing exclusivity for it is one of the main reasons why the Vita wasn't much competition for the 3DS. The Wii is different. Monster Hunter hasn't done as well on console because Japanese people prefer playing with their friends in-person, I guess. So Monster Hunter 5 for the Switch could be big since it'll still have that portability aspect.

[neorichieb1971]

I'll get one straight off the bat.

A new mario is certain, I haven't had a Nintendo console since the Gamecube. And I liked the commercial for this Switch thing.

It seems to have moulded two conventional thoughts into one without doing anything radical.

[orange808]

The only solution is keep internet access screens in high traffic areas. I can't do that with a portable.

Mine will go to the neighbor's, use Google, reflash the device, and get loose.

Randomly grab it and check it every now and again? If you think only b/c the screen is in a high traffic area your kid isn't doing dodgy shit on the internet, then I'd suggest open communication. Before you get all bent out of shape, note that I am a parent as well.

It's also not a portable. Not just a portable anyway. Just don't let him take it out of the house.

I manage enough machines during the day. I don't want to do it at night, too.

Nintendo has it right.

[evil_ash_xero]

I wonder if there's a chance for a Bayonetta 3...

[Ed Oscuro]

Monster Hunter carried the PSP. Nintendo securing exclusivity for it is one of the main reasons why the Vita wasn't much competition for the 3DS. The Wii is different. Monster Hunter hasn't done as well on console because Japanese people prefer playing with their friends in-person, I guess. So Monster Hunter 5 for the Switch could be big since it'll still have that portability aspect.

Oh, I see what you mean now. I didn't know about that. Yeah, this will be just another reason for people to get this console.

I'm not totally sold on it, but honestly? I'm just finding out how involved getting the original Wii to work is, and this system looks like it's going to be much easier to keep all together.

[null1024]

Randomly grab it and check it every now and again? If you think only b/c the screen is in a high traffic area your kid isn't doing dodgy shit on the internet, then I'd suggest open communication. Before you get all bent out of shape, note that I am a parent as well.

Shit, when I was younger I'd be looking at hentai over dialup while my parents watched TV... in the same room, and I just hoped they wouldn't look behind them and my body blocked the window enough. wasn't crazy enough to try to get off on it with them in the room, that'd be appalling
and then there was shit like stickdeath and whatever, I think I went to ebaums back then too, pretty much anything the filters should have blocked, I decided to go to anyway
Risky stuff, nothing like hoping the screen doesn't take ten years to redraw when alt-tabbing away, fuck Windows ME. Desperately hoped AOL didn't lock up while something naughty was still showing, because fuck Windows ME.
This was like 14 years ago.
that being said, the parental lock [and site access logging] he did have in place was useless because my dad left his password written on the back of a picture of me near the machine, letting me ignore both -- gonna assume you're not doing anything quite so silly

really, if he's going to the neighbors to do flash the Switch, he's going to the neighbors to download porn to a usb drive, which would be much less hassle
or fuck it, go to the school library and do that, use a proxy and a small window and hope you weren't being VNC'd on at that exact moment -- got shipped off to the "Academy" for a week because I got in a fight [yay zero-tolerance], saw one of the kids doing this, wanted to laugh my face off

Talking to your kid about not watching porn and not embarrassing them in the process [fucking hard] is the only real way, although you should still put all the roadblocks in the way.

really, I'm tempted to say that the Switch mightn't have a browser because they're gigantic vulnerabilities [especially since everyone and their mother is raking over the WebKit source looking for something to get at, whether it be for console hacking or regular computer hacking] and both the 3DS and the Vita were cracked wide open with browser exploits

not having a touchscreen doesn't mean it won't have a browser either, the PSP managed fairly well, even know a guy who used the PSP browser until like last year when pretty much nothing would work on it

[atheistgod1999]

Unless Nintendo removes the skip-level features from ALL OF THEIR GAMES, and makes them significantly harder, I don't give a fuck about this. Everything will just be a sequel, anyway.

[GaijinPunch]

Nintendo has it right.

You're assuming this based off of them not coming out and saying it has internet capabilities.

[Skykid]

Also there are tons of really awful and negative "imminent failure" comments in this thread from the usual suspects salivating over the idea of a bomb.

They're just extrapolating data in their heads from all those other failed mobile console systems Nintendo has made in the past.

Exactly.

This is clearly a product that's meant to sit between two aspects of the market. The handheld has always been their consistently strong field so it makes sense to continue in that area. People talking about the size, how else do you want to play current gen games? all that stuff about not being able to fit it in your pocket is bull anyway - who ever actually carries their handhelds about in their pocket. I put every handheld I ever owned in a case and stowed it in a bag when moving around.

I see this being adopted well by the Japanese, first and foremost. I think it appeals greatly to a people who rarely have time to sit and park at home and play games and who spend a lot of time commuting and working. The dynamic nature of the thing is also a smart feature: you can get to work, want to kill ten minutes showing someone a game, break off a controller and play head to head on something. It's a concept with appeal.

I'm not clairvoyant, but in the past I've been pretty good at sussing out how consoles will fare. I almost bought shares in Nintendo prior to the Wii, so far as to investigate the price per share - and kick myself almost every day for not actually doing so. With the Wii U I sampled it at an early preview event and felt like it was guaranteed to fail because it offered nothing new and the controller was gimmicky and pointless. I wouldn't but shares for this one, but I also see it creating its own space in the market. There's a gap to fill. It's not the cumbersome slabs of its competition and it's disassociating itself from them by being gaming on the go, quick and easy, without the need for a break. I personally find that very appealing because it means I might actually be able to play some games that aren't 30 years old for a change.

There are problems afoot. Battery life must be longer than 3 hours, net browser will be on board and is a given, but no touchscreen will make the navigation altogether useless. The OS environment needs to be smart and functional with more on offer than just the Nintendo store, and it would be a shame if this didn't do more than what we've seen so far.

Still, I'm optimistic.

[qmish]

It's actually cool that because of MonHun moving away from Sony we got cool titles like Soul Sacrifice, Toukiden and Freedom Wars as compensation; though MonHun diehards will call them shitty and inferior, but whatever.

[Xyga]

Am I the only one who can't help but see Domino's Pizza logo ?

[qmish]

Some people see "69" pose.

[neorichieb1971]

All Nintendo have to do is convince 3rd parties to make some serious games, but also some of the Mario esque games that were around in the PS1/PS2 era. Where have they all gone? I can't believe there is no market for Spyro, Jumping Flash, Crash Bandicoot, Bomberman and so forth.

[soprano1]

All Nintendo have to do is convince 3rd parties to make some serious games, but also some of the Mario esque games that were around in the PS1/PS2 era. Where have they all gone? I can't believe there is no market for Spyro, Jumping Flash, Crash Bandicoot, Bomberman and so forth.

Bomberman is Hudson Soft, which was acquired by fucking Konami some years ago to sit on the license, so forget about it. Jumping Flash died after the second game, and Spyro and Crash didn't get decent games after the original creators sold/lost the license. I think Spyro is a Skylander toy, actually...

[evil_ash_xero]

Am I the only one who can't help but see Domino's Pizza logo ?

I see it now.

And the puppy ears.

[BryanM]

[atheistgod1999]

the Switch isn’t likely to be as powerful as either the PlayStation 4 or Xbox One, since it will be based on an SOC that’s designed around mobile-use

I'm out.

Reminds me of the iDog, for some reason.

[BrianC]

Bomberman is Hudson Soft, which was acquired by fucking Konami some years ago to sit on the license, so forget about it.

Not to mention that they dissolved them and didn't let the promising 3DS Bomberman game see release.

[soprano1]

Bomberman is Hudson Soft, which was acquired by fucking Konami some years ago to sit on the license, so forget about it.

Not to mention that they dissolved them and didn't let the promising 3DS Bomberman game see release.

Thank you for another opportunity to say Fuck Konami.

[neorichieb1971]

Bomberman is Hudson Soft, which was acquired by fucking Konami some years ago to sit on the license, so forget about it.

Not to mention that they dissolved them and didn't let the promising 3DS Bomberman game see release.

Thank you for another opportunity to say Fuck Konami.

There are still people out there who miss Diddy Kong Racing, Bomberman, Spyro, Bubble Bobble, Snow Bros and such games. Some of these can get updates with relatively little inovation. I'd love a Diddy Kong Racing/Bomberman crossover game where you launch bombs around the track in different ways. There is potential for surreal and animated type gaming styles that hasn't been seen since the PS2 era. And its one of the reasons why retro gaming is booming right now.

On the bluray.com forum the PS4 section has "Destiny" in the top 5 updated threads at any one given time.

I'd also like to see more innovation in the AAA sector as well. And Japanese devs need to find their roots again, so lets hope Resident Evil 7 is as much an experience as it is a game.

[TransatlanticFoe]

If this is replacing Nintendo's console and handheld lines, it seems a step back from the 3DS. It's too big and does away with the second screen. However, as a "mobile within the home" device it could really work - kids and teenagers not tying up the main TV with video games! If it doesn't have a touchscreen though, that'll really kill it as a tablet. I assume the 3DS will still get a trickle of releases and they'll decide whether to replace it like for like depending on how this goes - it'd be a real shame if they threw away the 3DS like they did Wiimote & nunchuck.

The controller looks nice and chunky, like the Dreamcast and Saturn 3D pads. One of the things I really like about the xbone is the big, weighty form factor of its gamepad.

It does, at least, look like it has a purpose. Hopefully Nintendo can get third parties onboard to produce exclusives, as it was with the Wii, as well as Nintendo stepping their own game up after a disappointing first party showing for the WiiU (major franchises absent, what was there was too infrequent). Zelda looks a step in the right direction anyway so we'll see how it stands this time next year. Hopefully it doesn't just fill up with mobile pay-to-win shovelware...

[Skykid]

I'm out.

You were never in.

[atheistgod1999]

I'm out.

You were never in.

Good point.

[BryanM]

If this is replacing Nintendo's console and handheld lines, it seems a step back from the 3DS. It's too big and does away with the second screen.

I imagine the 3DS won't be phased out for a couple years until they release the NX Mini. Then the NX Mini New.

Over the years, I've strongly cooled on the DS's second screen, after being quite enthusiastic about it in the beginning. It's not really worth the added cost or reduction in resolution, imo. And rpgs where the control menus are on one screen and the battle on the other - I think they're worse when they design interfaces like that.

It kind of reminds me of the cuts during a Resident Evil movie fight scene - eyeballs flickering everywhere at every thing from every angle.

Having a built in screen protector is great though. The DS is such a better device than the GBA.