IcyCalm is making a game..

[Squire Grooktook]

I think the only thing that might make scoring feel less immersive is that, unlike survival, scoring and its mechanics are not recognized by the games lore and story. However, the same could be said of many, many, many gameplay mechanics, and ultimately scoring only makes the game feel more involved and input heavy which leads to greater immersion imo.

[BareKnuckleRoo]

Shmups feel like one of those genres where scoring really is needed to feel immersive IMO, at least as far as getting into the game goes because otherwise all you're doing, ultimately, is shooting and dodging, but that's a different kind of immersion from a game that connects with you emotionally. Not that that's a bad thing - a shmup is frankly a bad medium for trying to tell a detailed story. The point of a shmup is to immerse you in a different way than say, an RPG or a visual novel tries to. Really, video games in general aren't as good as books for detailed storytelling because instead of a focus on the story, you also have to worry about gameplay mechanics, like Squire says, and good gameplay mechanics can't always tie into the game's story (and I'm all for unrealistic/immersion breaking mechanics because they often make for great games, I don't find realism in games much fun).

[Snake]

Nice thread on gamengai. I'm curious what makes somebody the "#1 video game and art theorist in the world" other than simply claiming to be. Furthermore, I hope being #1 in the world at something would be remunerative to the point that you wouldn't need to engage in pathetic wire fraud schemes just to make ends meet while flunking out of engineering school.

[austere]

Oops now I have to join in the ruse of pretending not to be able to communicate over in-banned boards lol.

In reference to this post: http://culture.vg/forum/topic?p=22409#p22409

First off and most importantly:

The truth here is that some petty resentment is at the bottom of your entire behavior, as it is with the behavior of every single one of the morons on Shmups.

[...Shit I don't even care about nor remember that well...]

This is the truth of the matter, and from that day on you began thinking of me as an "asshole".

Let's examine this for a moment: If I was resentful, why was the first thing I wrote since that last incident a request for you to be unbanned from here? Despite the obvious opposition? I've seen my entire nation, its history, its people and its future destroyed from the top down by criminals running the United States government and yet I have little problems working with people from the same government on certain matters -- does that seem resentful? Your pigeon-hole "resentment" canned-response surely should be reconsidered here -- you're not omniscient and can never truly know what is in someone's heart.

Really icy, I always thought of you as an asshole from the day I met you. I know assholes well, mainly because I am one. My best friend happens to be the biggest asshole I know, even worse than you if you could possibly believe that. If you read what you quoted again, I said I wished you'd stop being SUCH an asshole, as in, not completely a "asshole-free" type person (i.e. a vegetable), but lessen the assholicness to optimise the interaction you wish to gain from people. Your ideas are already penetrating through, albeit a sloppy copy that will slowly converge towards them with some end error. Why not actually enjoy the fruits of your work every now and then and make life easier for yourself later? Especially now that you want to make a game. Your current strategy was successful in getting you where you are now. Isn't it time to look at the big picture and redraw your grand strategy???

If making this game is seriously an endeavour you believe will further your life goal of showing people directly the application of you hard work, then what I wrote is something that you should ignore at your own peril.

If it isn't then you're wasting your own time and the time of the people willing to help you out.

You make little quips all over the place (as you did on TIGS ages ago) that make it seem like you understand everything, but all you are doing, time and again, is proving how small you are.

Perhaps it is because I do understand everything icy, just ask around. In fact I'm probably the only the person you could have ever met who can meaningfully discuss about certain topics such as your interpretation of quantum mechanics based on that Quantum Nietzsche book you've recommended. But there's plenty of others in that list of people you've dismissed based on short-sighted or non-constructive rage fests: how about Udderdude. Doesn't seem like much based on the "fan mail" incident you referred to etc, but what if I told you that despite being ban for so long, he was contributing to your website without you even knowing it? How about Macaw, who you dismissed in a fit of blind rage, he's a cool dude, was playing street fighter 2 with him yesterday and he kicked my ass. Was it worth it? Certainly not, the way you've asked him to come back gamengai.

Was that last post on gamengai a simulation to see if you can pull back, or did you think you'd end the note with the way you truly felt? Not everyone is able to see through these things icy, you of all people should know how non-ideal human beings are. It's true that some carry resentment, but they have other qualities that redeem this flaw.

The key to victory is to enforce a suppression of the bad qualities in people and to amplify the good qualities, THAT my dear friend, is how you can win the war you've chosen. Not by employing a flawed online-eugenics model where your chance-misinterpretations or temperament (you've got strong feelings after all, it doesn't take much during the day to shift those feelings when making a decision) can lose you key allies. Doesn't mean you have to take everyone in either.

You can give up the "I'm always right" shtick, you make mistakes too and you've admitted as much -- even those mistakes you've committed as a child, deem you imperfect. Or you can just double down and continue on your path ignoring my advice and I'll check on you in another ten years to see how you've went. Either way, I still wish you the best.

So not only will I never stop being an asshole for you, but as time goes on I'll increasingly become an even bigger asshole, until my ass has become so big that a single fart will be all it takes to gas all of you resentful morons to extinction, dog turds to dog turds, dust to dust, Amen.

You seriously crack up every time and I know you were smiling while you wrote this, lol. Your website was still the most fun and I would have continued if I had time, but alas I have my own war to fight now and its just as important as yours. So all I can do is give you advice (ooof its hard taking advice I know, just as it is for me) derived from my own unique experiences and hope that, even if you reject it outright as you have and as I expected you would, a lingering doubt will remain.

[quash]

I can already envision his response to you; about how you're an uneducated subhuman fagot who has understood no philosophy, how you can't understand icy because he's that much greater than you, and how you're not qualified to offer advice to the greatest human being to ever walk this earth.

Even the most difficult of bosses become boring once you've memorized the pattern.

[Skykid]

He's the gift that keeps on giving.

The gamengai thread is a must-read for any Insomnia fan:

http://www.gamengai.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3155

It's probably the last time you will get to see icycalm perform on an open forum. And seeing as it's the last, I might as well share the secret of my success with you.

The secret of becoming as awesome as I am in forum-sparring battles, is to be a genius.

It's amazing someone can swan into a forum flailing insults like a headless rooster, get absolutely bloodied during the course of three pages by higher wit, and still think he did a great job.

Correct me if I'm seeing this wrong.

This is the truth of the matter, and from that day on you began thinking of me as an "asshole".

And KAI began thinking of me as an asshole when I banned him because he was a Latin American moron who couldn't scribble a single sentence without making half a dozen grammatical and syntactical errors.

And Udderdude sent me a fanmail which I ignored because I was too busy, and then registered an account to PM me the fanmail again, and then I banned him for some reason I don't even remember.

And Derek Yu was my biggest fan on selectbutton, but when I reviewed his shitty game and gave it the shitty score it deserved, he started thinking of me as an asshole too.

...

THAT'S what's at the bottom of my "asshole" reputation -- RESSENTIMENT -- and if you had understood in any depth any of the philosophy I've recommended that you read, you'd see it clear as day.

I just think he's an asshole because he is one. Not complicated. Unsurprisingly he requires a philosophical inlet to try to make heads or tails of why people might consider him an asshole, instead of just realising he is, in the sense of slang terminology, a total fucking halfwit who has no concept of his mental illness.

I don't resent the guy whatsoever. In the grand scheme of things he's far too ineffectual and harmless, like a little buzzing bluebottle you might shoo away but never bother to swat.

If my paragraphs are three pages long it's because my thoughts are three pages long.

That's the best worst excuse for not putting prose into an edited, comprehensive, and readable format I've ever heard.

[GaijinPunch]

You met him in person? There are few stories I'm more interested to hear.

Yes. We went to an AM (or AOU?) show. With CIT, actually. He and I are both in a shot on Cave's page... or at least were. Was not super easy to make us out, but if you knew what you were looking for, we were there.

Is he as much of a lunatic in reality?

No, but this is before a certain event in his life. This comes to mind.

nothing gets a girl's pussy wet like video game theorists.

this is getting sigged...

Definitely worthy!

Nice thread on gamengai. I'm curious what makes somebody the "#1 video game and art theorist in the world" other than simply claiming to be.

His title at the forum being changed to that.

[Squire Grooktook]

Even the most difficult of bosses become boring once you've memorized the pattern.

RNG patterns all day erry day.

[Skykid]

Is he as much of a lunatic in reality?

No

But how would you have known for sure? He may have been pondering your inferior sub-human intellect the entire day and you'd be none the wiser.

Texan.

[brentsg]

No, but this is before a certain event in his life. This comes to mind..

Damnit, clicked looking for answers..

Skykid, arguing with mental illness is a lost cause.

[Skykid]

No, but this is before a certain event in his life. This comes to mind..

Damnit, clicked looking for answers..

Skykid, arguing with mental illness is a lost cause.

I know, I was bored. Although I actually thought Gaijinpunch was really unfairly insulted too.

The fact remains I went into the discussion (because he rarely leaves the church - it was a rare opportunity) to try and discuss 'game theory' with him on his own terms. You can see my first post is opening a line of debate. His answer swiftly closed it, and that was the end of that.

[austere]

how you can't understand icy because he's that much greater than you, and how you're not qualified to offer advice to the greatest human being to ever walk this earth.

In all likelihood he will simply ignore the post, I haven't made any errors. He only pointed out what he thought was a mistake (my comment to system11), didn't comment at all on the previous post.

But how would you have known for sure? He may have been pondering your inferior sub-human intellect the entire day and you'd be none the wiser.

Texan.

LOL, I don't get the diss on Texans, the greatest people I've met from the USA while travelling around the world were from Texas. Must be some kind of inside joke. Anyway, he's not insane, just ask anyone who has met him, not just GP. That said, sanity isn't a fixed quality and solitude eventually bears its own price.

[Skykid]

Anyway, he's not insane

No?

His type is the mathematically-inclined nerd who is capable of grasping complex arguments to an extent, but has no idea how to create them himself from reality, nor what it takes to put them into effect. He wants me to be "just" to useless worms like Udderdude! As if Udderdude and his kind meant anything more to me than symbols with which to merely illustrate certain aspects of my theory! If I actually took the time to be just to ANYONE, I would be utterly incapable of creating any theories whatsoever. That's what "theory" is: abstraction! And this moron thinks that abstraction can be just! BUT HOW CAN IT BE JUST WHEN THE VERY ESSENCE OF ABSTRACTION IS FALSIFICATION!?

AND WHAT OF THAT? THE LADY THAT SERVES ME MY ORANGE JUICE AND SANDWICH IN THE MORNING HELPED MY CAUSE TOO YOU MORON. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH MY DESIRE TO DEMONSTRATE HOW RESSENTIMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE "ASSHOLIC" REPUTATION OF GREAT MEN?

All the masculine readers are silent. There are also silent fags and silent idiots, who are simply keeping their mouths shut because they are afraid or because they realize they are dumb, but the really masculine ones who are also at least reasonably smart are the best.

But you can't become more masculine by perverting ideas! You need GENES for that! That's where all you little fags go wrong. You think the game is "fair", that anyone can win if he just makes the "right moves". But life is a game where the dice are loaded, and where the winner has been declared before the game has even begun.

I would have rather killed myself than talk insolently to Nietzsche. But what does a little fag understand about sentiments like that.

REACTION MEANS YOU DON'T EVEN EXIST. BUMPING THAT SHITTY THREAD ON SHMUPS BECAUSE YOU DISLIKE ME MEANS YOU DON'T EXIST. IT MEANS YOU HAVE CEDED THE ADVANTAGE OF "FIRST MOVE" TO ME. FIRST I ACT LIKE AN "ASSHOLE", AND ONLY THEN CAN YOU BEGIN WHINING TO YOUR OTHER NON-EXISTENT BUDDIES ABOUT IT. THIS MEANS THAT I'VE ALREADY WON NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO. Sun Tzu at least understood that. If you seriously want to beat me, YOU HAVE TO BE A BIGGER "ASSHOLE" THAN ME. You have to STOP REACTING TO ME ON SHMUPS.COM, go off TO ANOTHER SOLAR SYSTEM, build your own philosophy FROM SCRATCH, then teach it to an ALIEN RACE, and then send that race to earth to destroy the humans who will in the meantime have been completely indoctrinated with my philosophy. And then we'll see who the winner will be. Fag.

Come now.

[austere]

Now we're talking, lol. I'm surprised he would respond. Is what you pasted complete? Ican't be stuffed going on two forums at the same time.

[Skykid]

Now we're talking, lol. I'm surprised he would respond. Is what you pasted complete? Ican't be stuffed going on two forums at the same time.

Excerpts. You really pissed off the Hyperborean dude, what did you say? He's throwing all his toys out the pram at the moment.

[austere]

I would have rather killed myself than talk insolently to Nietzsche. But what does a little fag understand about sentiments like that.

I would have spoken in the same manner, if not even more stern, unforgiving and dissecting to Nietzsche. I would do the same if I saw anyone I valued making a mistake. That's what it means to be austere.

His type is the mathematically-inclined nerd who is capable of grasping complex arguments to an extent, but has no idea how to create them himself from reality, nor what it takes to put them into effect.

Actually icy, I've not only GRASPED complex arguments, I've grasped complex situation and put forward arguments that completely turn the situation on itself. Far from just analysing a general situation, I've put my mind to work to actually CHANGE situations. You can see that at play in Geneva II, I can't say more, so I'll leave it at that.

He wants me to be "just" to useless worms like Udderdude! As if Udderdude and his kind meant anything more to me than symbols with which to merely illustrate certain aspects of my theory!

Who said anything about justice icy? I'm telling you you're throwing away all your pawns and hanging on to your rooks and queen. You want to play with your hands tied behind your back that's fine, lol, just don't ever think you will EVER complete this game or live to see your vision of it rather than someone else's who will, in the best case scenario, walk in and take it from your hand.

If I actually took the time to be just to ANYONE, I would be utterly incapable of creating any theories whatsoever.

Correct. Read my post again where I actually SPELT IT OUT:

Why not actually enjoy the fruits of your work every now and then and make life easier for yourself later? Especially now that you want to make a game. Your current strategy was successful in getting you where you are now. Isn't it time to look at the big picture and redraw your grand strategy???

I'll ignore passages about "justice", there is NO justice in this world after all, no quarters offered and none asked for.

AND WHAT OF THAT? THE LADY THAT SERVES ME MY ORANGE JUICE AND SANDWICH IN THE MORNING HELPED MY CAUSE TOO YOU MORON. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH MY DESIRE TO DEMONSTRATE HOW RESSENTIMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE "ASSHOLIC" REPUTATION OF GREAT MEN?

Yeah, but did you slap her ass and call her a subhuman? Or did you ENJOY your orange juice?

Do you laugh at the janitor who keeps your toilet clean and call him filth? Or do you ENJOY the clean toilet you get to sit your ass on?

This is precisely what I'm trying to communicate to you. The way you're treating people, dismissively and not seeing how you can benefit from them instead (and albeit they can benefit from you as a side effect), will eventually crop up into your behaviour as you grow older. You don't have to accept every single person you meet. I even spelt that out.

All the masculine readers are silent. There are also silent fags and silent idiots, who are simply keeping their mouths shut because they are afraid or because they realize they are dumb, but the really masculine ones who are also at least reasonably smart are the best.

I'm posting what is in fact REALITY and you know it. You haven't at all denied what I wrote is true.

REACTION MEANS YOU DON'T EVEN EXIST. BUMPING THAT SHITTY THREAD ON SHMUPS BECAUSE YOU DISLIKE ME MEANS YOU DON'T EXIST. IT MEANS YOU HAVE CEDED THE ADVANTAGE OF "FIRST MOVE" TO ME.

You still think I dislike you, lol. Come on, do you dislike GaijinPunch? You've called him every name under the sun and said you loved him. The same is true in this case and all I've called you is an asshole which is something you've actually called yourself before.

The problem icy, is that you're utilising your model of a "subhuman" with every person you encounter. It's fine when you're inundated with people trying to talk to you, that's understandable. But at least spend a little bit more time in public encounters like this. Also, I wouldn't be posting in this topic and on this forum if the silly banning-and-locking syndrome that occurs on here and your forum (albeit mostly to the benefit in your forum thanks to signal-to-noise, nontheless...).

You have to STOP REACTING TO ME ON SHMUPS.COM, go off TO ANOTHER SOLAR SYSTEM, build your own philosophy FROM SCRATCH, then teach it to an ALIEN RACE, and then send that race to earth to destroy the humans who will in the meantime have been completely indoctrinated with my philosophy. And then we'll see who the winner will be. Fag.

You're on biatch. <3 <3 <3

Excerpts. You really pissed off the Hyperborean dude, what did you say? He's throwing all his toys out the pram at the moment.

He's not pissed, he's trying to throw me off. It will be an honour to be defeated by his hand, he's bested me before though I've come back a lot stronger now. Can you paste the missing bits, I replied assuming it was complete.

[Skykid]

He's not pissed, he's trying to throw me off. It will be an honour to be defeated by his hand, he's bested me before though I've come back a lot stronger now. Can you paste the missing bits, I replied assuming it was complete.

No way. The guy's a looney, I'm not going to be responsible for you being dragged into a cyclical discourse with no possible meaningful outcome.

It will be an honour to be defeated by his hand

Wat?

[austere]

It will be an honour to be defeated by his hand

Wat?

Hypothetically. I mean, you've got to admit defeat should it occur. But it won't, because I'm right and he's wrong if he claims I'm wrong rather than just lashing out at me because I'm right.

Anyway I'll get around to answering him when I've got time, if he's actually addressed the kernel of my argument which he has so far not done according to these snippets.

[Skykid]

But it won't, because I'm right and he's wrong if he claims I'm wrong rather than just lashing out at me because I'm right.

I point you to the part where I predicted cyclical discourse.

I can't really tell if he's addressed anything in particular, it's just a lot of caps rage about you not being able to comprehend immortal genius.

[KAI]

And KAI began thinking of me as an asshole when I banned him

I started thinking you were an imbecile the moment I registered in your forum and you changed my name thrice cause you didn't liked it. It was hate at first sight.
During the 2 years I've been there, I only posted 4 times. Do you really think I cared that much about you and your tiny little site?

[Ed Oscuro]

I expected an ubermensch to be more productive with his time than harping at his band of part-time enablers at random obscure forums. Even in his den he hardly has everyone under his thrall.

[Casey120]

It's all part of the bigger plan you fagots , YOU CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO COMPREHEND !

[Ed Oscuro]

World domination through self-marginalization!

[charlie chong]

icy is so original in his philosophies he is talking the exact same crap as nearly all the famed cult leaders of the past century.it ended pretty well for most of them
it must be sad to be such a victim of mind control that you get all your philosophies from the books of others rather than coming up with your own philosophies though the life you have led.

[Ceph]

The most entertaining aspect of all of this is Antony Zyrmpas' (a.k.a. Icycalm) idée fixe that he is an intelligent person, which as evidenced yet again by the current thread on gamengai he clearly is not. While he is obviously deranged and in need of psychiatric care (lots of ticking time bomb signals that make it seem like it is only a matter of time until he will bring physical harm to someone), he is of average intellect at best. Icycalm believing to be intelligent is like a dog thinking it is people. Comical, yet tragic and in this case even outright scary.

[Skykid]

You know, he might be bipolar.

[Lloyd Mangram]

More like BILLIONpolar, you subhuman worm fagot.


I'm not icycalm.

[Udderdude]

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[BareKnuckleRoo]

It's amazing someone can swan into a forum flailing insults like a headless rooster, get absolutely bloodied during the course of three pages by higher wit, and still think he did a great job.

Correct me if I'm seeing this wrong.

Icycalm seems to have built up a delusion where he's convinced that he's in an elite class of intelligence, and I'm guessing that he's gone to the point where anyone who disagrees with him or sees him as simply being a prick only inflates his ego more by giving him more fuel - he probably sees them as yet another person to feel superior over and actually gets off on people hating him. Every single person that calls him out for his bullshit is someone Icy gets to feel (wrongly) superior over, and he seems to take it as further validation for his super special intelligence (in reality, a lack thereof). It would explain why he's made a forum thread dedicated to "look at all these people who hate me, aren't I special?".

He's seriously, legitimately fucked up, mentally speaking. Doesn't make him any less of an asshole to deal with.

Anyway, he's not insane

How much money are you willing to bet on that? He robbed people of thousands of dollars, skipped the country, and now is singing his own praises about how he's the smartest fucking thinker ever whilst acting like a fuckwit. If Icy ever goes to see a psychologist, I guarantee you he's coming away diagnosed with something, if not a whole lot of things.

[moh]

this thread is filled with so much hate, and it warms my heart