Thunderforce VI announced by Famitsu for PS2 in 2008

UnscathedFlyingObject · Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:27 pm

Looks kinda cheapo.

Free-range = blerg.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:32 pm

Looks kinda cheapo.

Free-range = blerg.

you are cheapo...

lawnspic · Post by **lawnspic** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:10 pm

This game will not be well received by everyone. Can't please everybody. Anyway this title looks great and i hope the gameplay hold true to TFV. I liked that title very much as i invested quite a good chunk of time into it. October cant get here soon enough.

pixelcorps · Post by **pixelcorps** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:39 am

I think the whole thing looks very fanmade, especially the bosses.. kinda shocked that sega didnt make more effort with the art..

will still play it, but probably not as much of a huge grin as I hoped.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:44 am

does this look more fanmade than what other 3D shooter that's not gradius 5?

some of you guys on here ask for so much when compared to what other examples? It's PS2.... I can't think of another PS2 3D shooter that is better looking other than Gradius 5. Raiden 3 (i guess) and R-type final are in the same league.

looks as good as border down and I never saw folks saying BD is fanmade looking.

I hope it has 480p support but i doubt it.... i'll just use the PS3 to fix that.

Kaiser · Post by **Kaiser** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:51 am

Strider77 wrote:does this look more fanmade than what other 3D shooter that's not gradius 5?

some of you guys on here ask for so much when compared to what other examples. It's PS2.... I can't think of another PS2 3D shooter that is better looking other than Gradius 5. Raiden 3 (i guess) and R-type final are in the same league.

looks as good as border down and I never saw folks saying BD is fanmade looking.

I hope it has 480p support but i doubt it.... i'll just use the PS3 to fix that.

Dude, whoever asks for a superb mega-detailed 3d graphics (read: most of people here in this thread) are bunch of losers which don't appreciate effort put into the game, YOU HEAR IT GRAPHIC NERDS, YOU ARE LOSERS

J-Manic · Post by **J-Manic** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:49 am

It doesn't look like it'll be the best in the series. But that's doesn't mean it won't be fucking awesome.

Makoto Sei · Post by **Makoto Sei** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:12 pm

something were absorb by the ship !! is that green light were use to increase the over weapon gauge ? altough maybe it was a funmade... still its realy cool !!

Observer · Post by **Observer** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:45 pm

J-Manic wrote:It doesn't look like it'll be the best in the series. But that's doesn't mean it won't be fucking awesome.

This.

It's a new shooter (the most important point). It's for PS2. It puts back a guitar-driven soundtrack (I hope so...), it's all ships and manly mecha plus missiles. Zero loli/cutesy crap so far. I'm more than happy with the game so far.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:56 pm

And finally a new HORIZONTAL shooter..... you heard me *GASP*, I like hori's

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:09 pm

Strider77 wrote:does this look more fanmade than what other 3D shooter that's not gradius 5?

Good point, they all look ugly and cheap.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:22 pm

that wasn't really my point..... but there are no next gen shooters yet and won't be for awhile by the looks at it. sure there will be some shooter on 360 but nothing that is gonna push the hardware like G5 did on PS2.

i guess that's what everyone is wanting out of TF6, next gen graphics or something to blow G5 out of the water. if so... reality check.

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:13 pm

G5 was shit anyway. this is actually impressing me cuz they aren't trying to go the 'new style brownland fetish' deal that G5 was really trying to do, aside from the fact it looks plain gorgeous in motion right now.

Matsunaga · Post by **Matsunaga** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:28 pm

I just pre-ordered this last night, looks awesome to me, even though I suck at horizontals. It's always better to pay $60 now, than relize I want it in a few years and have to pay rediculous ebay prices..

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:10 am

Rob wrote:
Strider77 wrote:does this look more fanmade than what other 3D shooter that's not gradius 5?
Good point, they all look ugly and cheap.

Agreed. And even GV does in some places. Basically, everything that's supposed to look organic looks terrible, with the organic wall being the low point. It's pretty obvious why Treasure decided to sacrifice the traditional diversity of the Gradius series in favour of their trademark (highly polished yet not entirely un-generic) technoid style.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:47 am

The reason I believe I'll never understand about 80% of Gradius V criticism is that most of the game (by far) is comprised of the earlier games of the series, namely Gradius II GnY and Gradius III, except with more r-typeish gameplay and much enhanced visuals.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:21 am

G5 was shit anyway

lol... and they wonder why we don't get many shmups anymore.

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:48 am

I like it when games have more then 5 enemy types. Gradius 5 is Devil May Cry OMG.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:26 am

Imho, but GV looks bland. yeah, big lasers and explosions... but that's all. Bosses looks... well... like old G bosses in 3d. Awesome

Most of DC shmups looks better than G5

Makoto Sei · Post by **Makoto Sei** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:26 am

did anyone noticed that the title on the beginning of the TF VI`s stage resemble to Nanostray`s stage`s titleling style ? (one of NDS shooter)

pixelcorps · Post by **pixelcorps** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:17 pm

sorry, but border down's artwork is much more refined IMHO, the geometry on the the models on TF6 looks very basic, and the texturing is rather sloppy.

I can't help but be picky.. I'm do games graphics for a living, have done for 17 years, for sega included.

the TF series has had some great art, especially TF4 and I really expected sega to bust out something special..

it"s not that I HATE it, just expected a lot more from those guys.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:47 pm

How do you know? you can judge texture work from a low res video compared to VGA on the DC.... at least wait for a hands on look.

You guys are looking to hate it.....

G5 looked great border down did to but the poly count was deffinately lower and had less color and effects.

You do know that G-rev was responsible wore the backgrounds in G5 right?

Do you really feel that much more special then everyone else if you hate something that's liked. Does it make you elite?

So what games have you done texture work in then??? what amazing games have you worked on.

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:27 pm

Its not about poly count or other technical things, its about just how good the art direction/artwork itself is. G-Darius and Raystorm are early 3d attempts but look stunning. Stuff like Gradius 5 and R-Type Final are newer efforts and look stunning. TF6 from the vid and screens just looks remarkably uninteresting.

Well we'll see how it all is, when its released.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:07 pm

to each his own but those TF ships designs as as good as ever.... shifting perspective is cool new plus.

I'm sold and very grateful this is coming out.... I'm grateful when ANY shooter comes out these days.

Those of you moaning and groaning.... I really like to know what 3D shooters you guys have been so spoiled on. Border Down, Ikaruga, Under Defeat, R-Type Final, and Gradius 5 are the only one in the same league so far.

To me this looks just as good as all but G5.....

How can you guys make such steadfast gripes from a crappy vid. I mean when i look at that vid I know:

A: the framerate will be a hell of alot smoother
B: the colors will be alot more vivid
C: the resolution will be MUCH better (especially in 480p via my PS3)
D: the texture work will be much cleaner
E: i'll get to actually *GASP* play the complete game and see all of it.

I bet if the same game had G-revs name slapped on it and was on DC the same haters would be all over it.

Honestly what are you so spoiled by.... PLEASE I'd like to know so I can play these magical shooters.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:21 pm

I detect a stench of fanboyism coming from you, Strider77. :\

You just dismiss every opinion that you don't like and label them as groans and whatnot. Yet you make an effort to comment every such opinion while failing to address valid (actually) points brought up in them.

PS3 doesn't magically add detail to the texture, nor does make the models look and move less clunky, nor add enemy fire (unless the game contains only stage bosses and popcorn enemies that die before they have an option to shoot you), but I'm sure you know that anyway.

You're sold and all that — we figured. Let the others say what they think.

jp · Post by jp » Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:37 pm

Strider77 wrote: Honestly what are you so spoiled by.... PLEASE I'd like to know so I can play these magical shooters.

Thunder Force III and IV?

nem · Post by **nem** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:26 pm

Strider77 wrote:I bet if the same game had G-revs name slapped on it and was on DC the same haters would be all over it.

I know I would. G-Rev has two great STG titles under their belt, TF6 is coming from a new team with only alleged shmup expertise.

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:21 pm

moozooh wrote:I detect a stench of fanboyism coming from you, Strider77. :\

You just dismiss every opinion that you don't like and label them as groans and whatnot. Yet you make an effort to comment every such opinion while failing to address valid (actually) points brought up in them.

Because nothing valid or of value has actually been said. it actually looks like a fucking Thunder Force game, which is damn impressive considering Technosoft and all the important people in the series' inception aren't anywhere near it. I'm really liking the visual style used despite all of this (read: pointless moaning) about graphics not being up to snuff. they look FAR better than most 3D shooters, and it's honestly more pleasing to the eye than any other 3D shooter that has come out semi recently.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:38 pm

Gungriffon Geona wrote:I'm really liking the visual style used despite all of this (read: pointless moaning) about graphics not being up to snuff. they look FAR better than most 3D shooters, and it's honestly more pleasing to the eye than any other 3D shooter that has come out semi recently.

Would you be so kind as to list some of those 3D shooters so that I could try comparing them?

fireleo4 · Post by **fireleo4** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:04 pm

Strider77 wrote:to each his own but those TF ships designs as as good as ever.... shifting perspective is cool new plus.

I'm sold and very grateful this is coming out.... I'm grateful when ANY shooter comes out these days.

Those of you moaning and groaning.... I really like to know what 3D shooters you guys have been so spoiled on. Border Down, Ikaruga, Under Defeat, R-Type Final, and Gradius 5 are the only one in the same league so far.

To me this looks just as good as all but G5.....

How can you guys make such steadfast gripes from a crappy vid. I mean when i look at that vid I know:

A: the framerate will be a hell of alot smoother
B: the colors will be alot more vivid
C: the resolution will be MUCH better (especially in 480p via my PS3)
D: the texture work will be much cleaner
E: i'll get to actually *GASP* play the complete game and see all of it.

I bet if the same game had G-revs name slapped on it and was on DC the same haters would be all over it.

Honestly what are you so spoiled by.... PLEASE I'd like to know so I can play these magical shooters.

Hello Shmuppers!

I really enjoy the shmups messageboards, but most time i´m too lazy to post something. I´m a TF Fan, since i got my first MD, back in 89. My favorites of the series are: 1.TF5 (SAT) ,2.TF4,3.TF2,3.TF3,4.TFAC. I´m one of the guys that checked tecnosofts website day by day since thunderforce 5 was released, only hoping that one day a new TF game will be announced. I remember when TF4 came out, i had to buy a new tv, because my tv couldn´t handle RGB. So i throwed out a few 100 bucks for a tv just to play TF4 (the only game with rgb - region lock) Crazy, huh?

I don´t care if TF6 is done by Tecnosoft or by Sega, as long as the spirit of the game is intact. I´ll know that the game will please the TF Fans or at least myself and i´m really no fanboy. We have a talentend and motivated staff working on the game and "garow" a the japanese die hard TF Fan and a very talented artist is also involved in TF6. (ever wondered why garows website http://liberty-hp.ddo.jp/tf/thunderfuture hasn´t been updated since nearly one year? So i´ll keep my fingers crossed and wait for october30th.

@strider77: i totally agree with your statements *Cheers*

take care - stay alive
fireleo4

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