DUX for Dreamcast

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Wed May 14, 2008 4:55 pm

DCEvoCE wrote:No problem with that at all and I don't think I expect anything else/less. Problem however is that some of these "experts" claim that RHE would not be a picky expert, but an "average amateur at best" - not exactly "a way to make friends on a forum"

I am extremely picky myself when it comes to games that I would consider spending my valued time with.

Valid criticism didn't come from those guys - it's the internet. Even in well-above-average places like this one, one must learn to address the serious questions and ignore the rest.

christuserloeser · Post by **christuserloeser** » Wed May 14, 2008 4:57 pm

That's a good idea. Don't feed the troll(s).

RHE · Post by **RHE** » Wed May 14, 2008 5:02 pm

Turrican wrote:You're letting a lot of potential buyers out ~me, for example~ because you have a fetish for packaging? Awesome.

I don't mind a port to WiiWare etc. It's just that theres has to be a phisical copy existing fo the game even if it's just a special edition.

DCEvoCE wrote:That's a good idea. Don't feed the troll(s).

I should really take this advice and don't response some of the poeple in the 'A serious note about Last Hope' thread - they just don't understand.

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Wed May 14, 2008 5:23 pm

Necronom wrote:@Turrican
I guess the said forum member forgot to mention that it was such a "quality check" that killed Ketsui for xbla...
It's probably a much better idea to develop for PC or DC first, get some feedback and port later to one of the networks.

Actually Microsoft decided to change their entire focus for Xbox Live Arcade and start publishing nothing but new games on it, not arcade ports. So it wasn't Ketsui itself that failed their "quality check". Besides, Ketsui was allready released as a commercial product - in Japanese arcades.

christuserloeser · Post by **christuserloeser** » Wed May 14, 2008 5:31 pm

Question from Edge @ Sega-DC.de:
http://www.sega-dc.de/board/thread.php? ... &boardid=3

"I hope that one can save their scores by typing in your initials/name in the high score list. That's a must."

RHE · Post by **RHE** » Wed May 14, 2008 6:08 pm

Post by **undamned** » Wed May 14, 2008 6:30 pm

RHE wrote:...don't response some of the poeple in the 'A serious note about Last Hope' thread - they just don't understand.

You could both make money and thwart the naysayers by making an official DUX T-Shirt:

[pic of ship flying by]

"DUX: You just don't understand."

-ud

Necronom · Post by **Necronom** » Wed May 14, 2008 6:45 pm

Udderdude wrote:
Necronom wrote:@Turrican
I guess the said forum member forgot to mention that it was such a "quality check" that killed Ketsui for xbla...
It's probably a much better idea to develop for PC or DC first, get some feedback and port later to one of the networks.
Actually Microsoft decided to change their entire focus for Xbox Live Arcade and start publishing nothing but new games on it, not arcade ports. So it wasn't Ketsui itself that failed their "quality check". Besides, Ketsui was allready released as a commercial product - in Japanese arcades.

No, MS never said that they switched course. They said they will concentrate on original releases, that's all. Never say never...
The term "quality" in this case doesn't necessarily mean "your game sucks", most of the time it just says "no, thanks"...that's why I wrote "quality check".

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Wed May 14, 2008 8:05 pm

Turrican wrote:
RHE wrote:I don't have clear opinion on that. While I think that stuff like WiiWare/XBLA/PSN are great opportunities, especially for independent devs, they all have the same flaw - no physical disc. I just don't like the idea so a DC release with physical disc is the best choice to me.
You're letting a lot of potential buyers out ~me, for example~ because you have a fetish for packaging? Awesome.

Look, I'm still no new-gen but the first thing I'll do with my future PS3 will be to grab Stardust! If you believe in DUX, I think you should consider a conversion. With Last Hope you did pretty good: it's on three different platforms after all.

I too am an old grumpy gamer!! I know how cool were the cartridge days! But honestly... Let's carry on.

Let's not! Please.

The world changed and DLC is everywhere, and it's cool this way.

I politely disagree.

Think to it - what's the real advantage of physical support? It makes for a great fan-service, but other than that, it just takes room.

So in 10 years time or so after your x360, Wii or PS3 dies you still can enjoy the game you bought?

Having a physical copy can have you try and find a working other console and just play it on that.
That AND you actually own something instead of just having paid for the rights to play.

DC is easily the most accessible console to make homebrew for. And by accessible I mean that it's (native) support for playing code from normal cd's and the accessibility of those are a huge plus. no need buying swapdiscs, mod chips or flash carts.

Also DC fans have gotten used to shmups and most have been well appriated. Easy access + nice enough potential market make this a 1+1=2
kind of thing.

But that aside, I think RHE just has a soft spot for the sega's swansong anyway.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Wed May 14, 2008 9:01 pm

RHE wrote:
Turrican wrote: that person might know his/her stuff. In that case, going bully and say he "doesn't understand" it's not a great way to make friends on forums. And yeah... a good share of people here know their stuff.
There's nothing bully-ish about 'You don't understead'. It only means that someone consequently does not show any approache in understanding. It does not mean that the same person is not able to understand.

You don't understand.

Post by **undamned** » Wed May 14, 2008 9:14 pm

First T-Shirt design is finished!

You can place your orders at http://www.hucast.net

-ud

nimitz · Post by **nimitz** » Wed May 14, 2008 9:28 pm

^

that post is up there with the other classics like the "Ketsui Simulator".

ubersaurus · Post by **ubersaurus** » Wed May 14, 2008 9:49 pm

I'd be down for DLC sometime.

One points out that 10 years down the line, you wouldn't be able to play those DLC games anymore. I think it's dependent. I know with the 360 you can save the stuff on memory cards, which don't really go bad the same way that hard drives do. And as long as the network is up, one could redownload the game.

The wii is tougher since I believe they have some hardcore stuff in place to keep people from pirating games, but I'm sure if there's enough demand, a workaround would surface eventually.

Also, maybe I was a bit harsh on Cave, but I felt like ranting after reading threads shitting all over MUSHA while praising some Cave japanese arcade release that the bulk of people will never play

christuserloeser · Post by **christuserloeser** » Thu May 15, 2008 11:58 am

I just realized that DUX might be the first Hi-Res 2D shmup for any console ever

bakaichi · Post by **bakaichi** » Thu May 15, 2008 12:18 pm

undamned wrote:First T-Shirt design is finished!

You can place your orders at http://www.hucast.net
-ud

Hey! I cannot order this it's a scham :p

christuserloeser · Post by **christuserloeser** » Tue May 27, 2008 6:54 pm

Will DUX support the rumble pack ? - That's something I missed in Last Hope.

RHE · Post by **RHE** » Tue May 27, 2008 7:03 pm

DCEvoCE wrote:Will DUX support the rumble pack ? - That's something I missed in Last Hope.

I will consider that, so probably yes.

heavymetalme · Post by **heavymetalme** » Tue May 27, 2008 9:02 pm

Pre-ordered!!!

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Tue May 27, 2008 11:22 pm

ubersaurus wrote:I'd be down for DLC sometime.

One points out that 10 years down the line, you wouldn't be able to play those DLC games anymore. I think it's dependent. I know with the 360 you can save the stuff on memory cards, which don't really go bad the same way that hard drives do. And as long as the network is up, one could redownload the game.

microsoft is already removing "poor selling games" from their network. so if you've purchased one of those titles and your hard-drive shits the bed what do you do? money out the window. i've purchased a lot of games off xbla, but i'd rather have a physical disc every time.

Post by **undamned** » Wed May 28, 2008 1:15 am

My t-shirt still hasn't come in the mail

-ud

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Wed May 28, 2008 2:03 am

undamned wrote:My t-shirt still hasn't come in the mail
-ud

Sorry .. apparently the US Customs dept. Just Didn't Understand (tm), and threw it away. Hopefully some day they will Just Understand (tm).

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed May 28, 2008 2:33 am

brokenhalo wrote:microsoft is already removing "poor selling games" from their network. so if you've purchased one of those titles and your hard-drive shits the bed what do you do?

You re-download. I don't give much attention to XBLA or PSN or other download-shit-for-moneys services, but I saw this update to the cancellation plans today.

christuserloeser · Post by **christuserloeser** » Wed May 28, 2008 12:50 pm

I finally found the time to set up a Wiki article for DUX at Dreamcast-Scene.com

- I will improve the layout and add more content later.

FRO · Post by **FRO** » Thu May 29, 2008 4:20 pm

Looks awesome - if I can get my DC working again, I will definitely have to pre-order this!

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Fri May 30, 2008 12:43 pm

I would welcome the title on Wiiware as well.
Should probably sell better there, because of the insane popularity of the Wii.
Will this game be bullet heavy?

RHE · Post by **RHE** » Fri May 30, 2008 2:14 pm

Jockel wrote:Will this game be bullet heavy?

For an memorize horizontal shooter there will be more bullets on screen then in any other game of this type as far I know. Since you have a pod, you can absorb those bullets instead of just tap-dodgingt them, which makes the game different to most danmakus with many bullets.

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Fri May 30, 2008 3:08 pm

What about the hitbox? Will it be small? Its always more fun with a smaller hitbox since it allows more insanity both in level design and flying the spaceship.
And what about making "You just don't understand (tm)" appear in the game? xD

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Fri May 30, 2008 3:19 pm

— These aliens are talking in a bogus, completely indecipherable language!
— You just don't understand.

RHE · Post by **RHE** » Fri May 30, 2008 8:38 pm

Jockel wrote:What about the hitbox? Will it be small? Its always more fun with a smaller hitbox since it allows more insanity both in level design and flying the spaceship.

The hitbox is rather small but not danmaku-like small. The ship has enough defense to absorb bullets though.

And what about making "You just don't understand (tm)" appear in the game? xD

No.

Post by **undamned** » Fri May 30, 2008 8:48 pm

RHE wrote:
And what about making "You just don't understand (tm)" appear in the game? xD
No.

Pretty please?
-ud