Cave shmups coming to X360 confirmed!

Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:03 am

Shmupdoctor wrote:I'm so happy that I don't give a damn what any cockmonger on the internet has to say. I love you guys.

That last log must of been real hard to swallow

Dont choke on it

Harlequin

ResOGlas · Post by **ResOGlas** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:52 am

Shmupdoctor wrote:
http://www.petitiononline.com/Dtoid/petition.html
sign please!
Yeah, I know these things are pretty much useless most of the time but they do have their influences! (Bioshock, bionic commando wii)

So there's like, what, 200 Ketsui fans in the US? Out of those 200 Ketsui fans, how many do you suppose actually own an Xbox 360 and will really purchase these titles? 50? 60? The costs of disc replication and the insert printing plate would cost way more than any profit they could hope to make.

Someone should make a petition to request that they leave the disc region free. That may also be a long shot, but a long shot is better than an impossible request like a US release.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:56 am

AHAHAHAHA.

Nice joke, though.

LOL.... listen dude. I get PAID to repair PS2s and got PAID to fix PS1s in the day. Now I can tell you from the numbers I've repaired personally, to huge amounts of busted PS2s and 1s I saw while working at a game store, to the fact that EB ect have a trade in sku for skipping drive PS2s, to all the personal friends and folks online talking about their PS issues....... I have encountered FAR more PS2 issues than red rings..... and their are alot of red rings in the world to boot. Sony did NOTHING......

The red ring sucks and is a big time fuck up..... a dumb one. But all this 360 hate is just something PS fanboys have to do. I own ALL the next gen systems and I had no hopes for the 360..... I wanted a PS3 so bad and all I had was a 360. Now that i have a PS3.... shockingly the 360 won me over the hard way. I have the most games for it and have played it the most.... simple as that. Now I'm not saying the PS3 sucks and you shouldn't want one over the 360..... just buy it and stop bitching that the 360 sucks b/c YOU want a PS3.

Cave ports is better than no cave ports...

jpolz · Post by **jpolz** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:58 am

ResOGlas wrote:ing plate would cost way more than any profit they could hope to make.

Someone should make a petition to request that they leave the disc region free. That may also be a long shot, but a long shot is better than an impossible request like a US release.

BINGO!

Everybody should quit wasting time trying to convince somebody to do a domestic release.....it isn't going happen, especially as these are retail releases, not XBLA. Instead, we should petition 5PB to leave the disc region-free.

Besides, do we really want some company giving Ketsui & DOJ the "MLF Treatment"??

pixelcorps · Post by **pixelcorps** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:59 am

ResOGlas wrote:
Someone should make a petition to request that they leave the disc region free. That may also be a long shot, but a long shot is better than an impossible request like a US release.

yep. it's easier to change a region value in code and get a few hundred more sales than trying to find a publisher to sell the same amount.

on top of that, its really got nothing to do MS,

Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:02 am

The bottom line is the Xbox360 blows up 30% of the time.
Why should anyone support a shoddy company like that?

Im not saying i would not like to play these games, but I refuse
to give Microsoft anyhting. Fuck them.

They dont care about gaming all they care about is money.

Yeah Yeah they are all like that, but at least the other two
dont have their hardware blow up 30% of the time.

Anyone that tries to justify that just asks to eat shit.

Harlequin

KNTain · Post by **KNTain** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:06 am

jpolz wrote:Everybody should quit wasting time trying to convince somebody to do a domestic release.....it isn't going happen, especially as these are retail releases, not XBLA. Instead, we should petition 5PB to leave the disc region-free.

Besides, do we really want some company giving Ketsui & DOJ the "MLF Treatment"??

There isn't a single Japanese Xbox 360 game that runs on an American console. Not one. I think it's more likely that Microsoft Japan has some mandate going around than every publisher choosing Japan only on every release. Guess nobody can say for sure, though.

jp · Post by jp » Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:33 am

Harlequin wrote:Wah!

Please shut up. You aren't contributing to any competent discussion and you're becoming a broken record. So please, take your anti-MS angst elsewhere.

Someone should make a petition to request that they leave the disc region free. That may also be a long shot, but a long shot is better than an impossible request like a US release.

This is very good advice. Its like, one line of code that makes a game region locked. So if they don't think its going to get a Western release, it would most certainly be in their best interest to leave the game region free.

There isn't a single Japanese Xbox 360 game that runs on an American console. Not one. I think it's more likely that Microsoft Japan has some mandate going around than every publisher choosing Japan only on every release. Guess nobody can say for sure, though.

This is incorrect.
http://egamia.wikia.com/wiki/Region_Free_Xbox_360_Games

The region coding comes in when the publisher does not want their games selling to another region if the game isn't out in the other regions yet. I think a lot of times Japanese publishers, or even developers, don't make their games region free because they want to see the game get released in the West.

Though incidentally, you can play almost all US 360 games on any console. So just buying a Japanese 360 probably isn't such a bad idea.

Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:39 am

jp wrote:
Harlequin wrote:Wah!
Please shut up. You aren't contributing to any competent discussion and you're becoming a broken record. So please, take your anti-MS angst elsewhere. .

Im not crying im stating facts.

If you dont like it, then ignore it and keep playing your heap of junk.

Harlequin

pixelcorps · Post by **pixelcorps** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:51 am

well, i guess at the end of it all we'll really see if cave, or their sub developers are willing to give a shit about the west...

Necronom · Post by **Necronom** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:55 am

jpolz wrote:
ResOGlas wrote:ing plate would cost way more than any profit they could hope to make.

Someone should make a petition to request that they leave the disc region free. That may also be a long shot, but a long shot is better than an impossible request like a US release.
BINGO!

Everybody should quit wasting time trying to convince somebody to do a domestic release.....it isn't going happen, especially as these are retail releases, not XBLA. Instead, we should petition 5PB to leave the disc region-free.

Besides, do we really want some company giving Ketsui & DOJ the "MLF Treatment"??

Who said or wrote that they're retail releases? I'm really interested if there's a real source behind this claim. And don't tell me "I read it on another forum somewhere"...

malik11 · Post by **malik11** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:06 am

jp wrote:The region coding comes in when the publisher does not want their games selling to another region if the game isn't out in the other regions yet. I think a lot of times Japanese publishers, or even developers, don't make their games region free because they want to see the game get released in the West.
Though incidentally, you can play almost all US 360 games on any console. So just buying a Japanese 360 probably isn't such a bad idea.

Actually, given the fact that Occidentally developed games are more commonly region free and the 360 flourishes in its homeland, it stands to reason that the motive for the Japanese publishers' region locking is actually to get the Japanese consumers to keep the 360 games that they buy rather than selling them off to the West (almost like tricking the Japanese consumers into buying the Xbox 360 hardware, in essence).

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:07 am

The bottom line is the Xbox360 blows up 30% of the time.
Why should anyone support a shoddy company like that?

you bought a PS2 right?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:23 am

Harlequin wrote:
jp wrote:
Harlequin wrote:Wah!
Please shut up. You aren't contributing to any competent discussion and you're becoming a broken record. So please, take your anti-MS angst elsewhere. .
Im not crying im stating facts.

If you dont like it, then ignore it and keep playing your heap of junk.

Harlequin

you are more excited about hentai or erotic imagery appearing in a game as opposed to the actual game itself.

im stating facts.

Twiddle

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:26 am

I am more excited about homoerotic imagery appearing in game forum threads.

And who was it who said, "this thread is full of love"? EOJ?

ResOGlas · Post by **ResOGlas** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:33 am

iatneH wrote:I am more excited about homoerotic imagery appearing in game forum threads.

+2

...Wait, were you joking?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:35 am

he wasn't joking

ResOGlas · Post by **ResOGlas** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:38 am

Twiddle wrote:he wasn't joking

There aren't any traps in Ketsui or DaiOuJou.

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:39 am

Is asking for these releases to be region-free futile? As the platform holder, has there been some nda'd Microsoft Japan policy fine print we're not aware of, regarding mandatory (or strongly recommended) region coding of domestically targeted NTSC-J titles which have no verified international publisher?

jp wrote:one line of code that makes a game region locked. So if they don't think its going to get a Western release, it would most certainly be in their best interest to leave the game region free

That makes perfect rational sense. However, to date no JP-exclusive Xbox 360 titles have been released region-free. Given that different publishers are involved with those releases, and given the quoted rationale for making some extra income by simply changing a bit of data on the disc... you have to wonder if the region coding is not just down to arbitrary "JP-only" sentiment among japanese publishers.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:44 am

ResOglas: I approve of image posts.

Is it even an actual line of code which needs to be compiled by the developers to make a game region-locked, or is it a checkbox that somebody in a different department clicks during the authoring process?

I'm Alec · Post by **I'm Alec** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:03 am

I'm happy ketsui is getting ported, though I personally am not too interested in playing it on 360, I can only see more people playing it as a good thing.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:22 am

JP region discs are cheaper aren't they? Due to the lack of sales of the hardware.

Anyways, all I want to know is if the resolution is native 240x320, or its been upscaled? Looks upscaled, which is good.

KNTain · Post by **KNTain** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:09 am

This is incorrect.
http://egamia.wikia.com/wiki/Region_Free_Xbox_360_Games

The region coding comes in when the publisher does not want their games selling to another region if the game isn't out in the other regions yet. I think a lot of times Japanese publishers, or even developers, don't make their games region free because they want to see the game get released in the West.

Sorry, I should have been more specific: there isn't a single Japanese-developed NTSC-J 360 release that has been playable on US consoles.

It just doesn't strike me as any more likely than a US publisher picking them up.

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:29 am

KNTain wrote:Sorry, I should have been more specific: there isn't a single Japanese-developed NTSC-J 360 release that has been playable on US consoles.

Technically that should read "Japanese-exclusive" not "Japanese-developed".

It seems if a NTSC-J title is known to be getting released worldwide anyway then its region-locking is less certain (e.g. NTSC-J Ace Combat 6)

Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:14 am

Twiddle wrote:im stating facts.Twiddle

Thats right, hence me not being excited about these games being ported.

I mean they could at least redraw some art and give us some schoolgirl,
maids and panty shots instead of those blokes in Ketsui

I am hapily waiting for the PORKPORT!

Fat Pig chicks get me HOT!

Harlequin

Erinu · Post by **Erinu** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:23 am

Harlequin wrote:
Twiddle wrote:im stating facts.Twiddle
Thats right, hence me not being excited about these games being ported.

I mean they could at least redraw some art and give us some schoolgirl,
maids and panty shots instead of those blokes in Ketsui

I am hapily waiting for the PORKPORT!

Fat Pig chicks get me HOT!

Harlequin

Oh man, this popular CAVE game which has never been ported is finally getting ported.. wait, what the fuck? No new characters? Nothing new? All we get is the ability to play the game? Fuck this.

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:25 am

I am by and large the biggest anti-Microsoft person I know (this post brought to you via my Ubuntu-driven laptop).

I *will* buy an XBox 360 if these games get released in my region (AU PAL). End of story. My love for Cave (and lack of income to buy genuine Cave PCBs) completely and utterly outweighs my hate for Microsoft.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:49 pm

Erinu wrote:All we get is the ability to play the game? Fuck this.

I think my sarcasmometer's broken, because I can't tell if this IS or ISN'T

charlie chong · Post by **charlie chong** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:09 pm

blah blah blah ,bitch whine bitch whine ,INTERNEZT

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:58 pm

Ed Oscuro wrote:
Erinu wrote:All we get is the ability to play the game? Fuck this.
I think my sarcasmometer's broken, because I can't tell if this IS or ISN'T

Erinu was being sarcastic, but Harlequin was too.